Re: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER

2007-05-28 Thread Bill Shoemaker
s are excellent pollinators for > apples but are dependent on good home sites, often old buildings nearby. > > Dave Green > > > > - Original Message - > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Monday, May 28, 2007 1:32 pm > Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLON

Re: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER

2007-05-28 Thread pollinator
hese early spring bees are excellent pollinators for apples but are dependent on good home sites, often old buildings nearby. Dave Green - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, May 28, 2007 1:32 pm Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER

Re: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER

2007-05-28 Thread SCOTINO123
Frankenbees, why not bumblebees? almost no bees except for the bumble var here, with spectacular bloom period. over croped elstars taking a year off. spigold , ashy bearer here, had huge bloom and good set. keepsake overcropped last year and shy this year. trees still getting pollenated somehow

Re: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER

2007-05-16 Thread amity
14, 2007 11:15 PM To: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net Subject: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER      The only way to avoid "possible negative ramifications of man's meddling with the natural order of things"  would be for us to revert to a hunter-gatherer soc

RE: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER

2007-05-15 Thread W.H. "Butch" Palmer
al Message- From: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Rosenberger Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 11:15 PM To: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net Subject: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER The only way to avoid "possible negative ramificatio

Re: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER

2007-05-15 Thread Dan Digiacomandrea
there is more unknown than known. Con Traas The Apple Farm -Original Message- From: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Rosenberger Sent: 15 May 2007 04:15 To: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net Subject: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER

Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER

2007-05-15 Thread Con.Traas
Original Message- From: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Rosenberger Sent: 15 May 2007 04:15 To: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net Subject: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER The only way to avoid "possible negative ramifica

Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER

2007-05-14 Thread Dave Rosenberger
Jim Friedler -Original Message- From: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Philip Smith Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 11:13 AM To: Apple-Crop Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER Are you suggesting the possibility of Frankenbees?

RE: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER

2007-05-14 Thread Nadean Summers
Philip Smith Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 11:13 AM To: Apple-Crop Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER Are you suggesting the possibility of Frankenbees? I can see an issue with bees spreading pollen from GM crops to non-GM crops, but I don't see what

Re: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER

2007-05-14 Thread amity
edler -Original Message- From: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Philip Smith Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 10:23 PM To: Apple-Crop Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER Humans did not evolve living in square boxes either, but it seem

Re: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER

2007-05-14 Thread Philip Smith
onday, May 14, 2007 7:20 AM Subject: RE: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER I don't know if anyone can begin to understand the effect of bees visiting flowers of GM crops!!! Jim Friedler -Original Message- From: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net

RE: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER

2007-05-14 Thread Nadean Summers
t: Re: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER Humans did not evolve living in square boxes either, but it seems to be working out OK. I am only able to think like a human, as do those who believe we have done damage to bee society. Poisoning(by pesticides, I assume) is much more

RE: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER

2007-05-14 Thread Arthur Harvey
> Thought this article from recent Washington State Hort Newsletter would add > to the discussion > > _ > > From: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Philip Smith > Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 7:23 PM > To: Apple-Crop > Subj

RE: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER

2007-05-13 Thread Devin Cooper
PM To: Apple-Crop Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER Humans did not evolve living in square boxes either, but it seems to be working out OK. I am only able to think like a human, as do those who believe we have done damage to bee society. Poisoning(by pesticide

Re: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER

2007-05-13 Thread list
PROTECTED] Behalf Of Philip Smith Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 6:43 PM To: Apple-Crop Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER I find it difficult to believe that giving bees a square house to live in constitutes some sort of maltreatment. Were I a bee, I'd be tickl

Re: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER

2007-05-13 Thread list
PM To: Apple-Crop Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER I find it difficult to believe that giving bees a square house to live in constitutes some sort of maltreatment. Were I a bee, I'd be tickled pink that someone had provided a roomy, fairly tight house compl

Re: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER

2007-05-13 Thread Philip Smith
nal Message - From: Nadean Summers To: Apple-Crop Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 8:36 PM Subject: RE: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER Bees did not evolve living in square boxes, and for a human to believe he can think like a bee is probably somewhat shortsighted also th

RE: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER

2007-05-13 Thread Bill Shoemaker
, and for a human to believe he can think > like a bee is probably somewhat shortsighted > > Good Point!Bill William H. Shoemaker Sr Research Specialist, Food Crops St Charles Horticulture Research Center University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign -- CoreComm Webmail. http://home.core.com

RE: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER

2007-05-13 Thread Nadean Summers
: Apple-Crop Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER I find it difficult to believe that giving bees a square house to live in constitutes some sort of maltreatment. Were I a bee, I'd be tickled pink that someone had provided a roomy, fairly tight house comp

Re: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER

2007-05-13 Thread Philip Smith
ginal Message - From: alan surprenant To: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 6:56 AM Subject: RE: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER bees, bees, bees, so much on our minds these days and well they should be (no pun

RE: Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER

2007-05-13 Thread alan surprenant
bees, bees, bees, so much on our minds these days and well they should be (no pun intended). for those with the inclination and the time (perhaps a rainy day), a small booklet i read many years ago has altered my whole relationship to the bees in my orchard.  The Bee Lectures (1922?) given by

Apple-Crop: Re: BEES & COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER

2007-05-12 Thread amity
And what of the previous question regarding predation on honey bees by wasps and yellow jackets, hornets? A few more questions while we have the topic: Is it true that honey bees are being genetically morphed to be single-purpose creatures (super-pollinators); that is they no longer are cap