Re: [arch-dev-public] Abandoning nvidia 340xx packages - does anyone want them?

[Muflone]

My office PC has a NVIDIA GPU supported only by nvidia-340 drivers only.

I could help in maintaining the package or doing tests when needed.

Regards

Muflone

Il 30 gennaio 2018 16:36:34 CET, Giancarlo Razzolini via arch-dev-public 
 ha scritto:
>Em janeiro 29, 2018 16:37 Sven-Hendrik Haase escreveu:
>> I do not have any devices which require me to run nvidia 340xx
>packages and
>> I haven't tested them for quite some time now. The most recent
>> nvidia devices which require 340xx because the regular nvidia package
>> dropped support for them are now 8-9 years old.
>
>I still have at least one machine with one of those.
>
>> 
>> I'm not really sure there is merit in maintaining these so unless
>anyone
>> wants them I'll drop them to AUR in two weeks.
>> 
>
>I can adopt it, if you plan on dropping them.
>
>Regards,
>Giancarlo Razzolini

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Re: [arch-dev-public] Windows Subsystem Linux - Arch Linux as official container?

[Eli Schwartz via arch-dev-public]

On 01/29/2018 04:00 PM, Christian Rebischke via arch-dev-public wrote:
> I would like to hear as much feedback as possible. So don't be shy :)
> I want to give feedback to the microsoft guys in round about 1 week.
> I guess that should be enough to dicuss this topic.

I'd like to reiterate what everyone else seems to be saying: WSL is too
fragile to offer real guarantees from our end, and AFAICT you're the
only person who even wants to offer it in the first place. So I'm not
sure what Arch Linux gets out of this.

It seems like the only thing that would actually happen is that
Microsoft gets to advertise that *we* support *them*, and then point
people who complain at you.

Having you "maintain" this, would seem to be a lot more complicated than
maintaining docker or VM images, since both of the latter are at least
compatible with basic things like glibc so only the packaging actually
needs to be maintained. We cannot really say this about WSL, so you
would have to be maintaining [core] as well.

If people really want Arch Linux in WSL, they can do that today. It
works, sort of, but it also pops up odd issues like the aforementioned
glibc stuff. Do you have a plan for how you would work with Microsoft to
get that fixed, without ultimately asking other Devs/TUs to aid in the
process? Because this is the absolute minimum threshold for being able
to actually say that we as a distro support WSL.

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Re: [arch-dev-public] Abandoning nvidia 340xx packages - does anyone want them?

[Giancarlo Razzolini via arch-dev-public]

Em janeiro 29, 2018 16:37 Sven-Hendrik Haase escreveu:

I do not have any devices which require me to run nvidia 340xx packages and
I haven't tested them for quite some time now. The most recent
nvidia devices which require 340xx because the regular nvidia package
dropped support for them are now 8-9 years old.


I still have at least one machine with one of those.



I'm not really sure there is merit in maintaining these so unless anyone
wants them I'll drop them to AUR in two weeks.



I can adopt it, if you plan on dropping them.

Regards,
Giancarlo Razzolini


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Re: [arch-dev-public] Windows Subsystem Linux - Arch Linux as official container?

[Morten Linderud via arch-dev-public]

On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 10:00:28PM +0100, Christian Rebischke via 
arch-dev-public wrote:
> * Signup in the Microsoft Appstore (we would get a free voucher if we
>   want to participate) as Organization (we need the ok from one of our
>   trademark holders for this step)

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/windows/agreements/app-developer-agreement

"""You grant Microsoft, its agents, contractors, licensees, marketing partners,
and Affiliates the right to use, reproduce, display, publicly perform and
publish your entity name, App or portion of your App, In-App Product, and the
App Assets for each App, [...] (iii) in any marketing, presentations,
demonstrations, trade shows, industry events, and press releases, for the App,
In-App Product, Windows, Windows Phone, Xbox hardware and accessories, Xbox Live
Services, Xbox.com and other Windows, Windows Phone and/or Xbox-related websites
and each of their successor platforms, and/or any other Microsoft websites,
products and services related to the Store and/or Apps..."""

So how many people would be comfortable with Arch Linux appearing on the screen
next time Satya Nadella proclaims "Microsoft loves Open Source"? I won't.


> - CentOS and Ubuntu are there too

I don't really see how this helps anything. Both companies have mony to deal
with issues and getting people to work on the support. We don't.

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