Re: [arch-dev-public] [RFC] systemd service files policy

2012-08-30 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > 1) Use the upstream service files whenever they exist. This should be a SHOULD and not a MUST. Some service files can be poorly implemented or some deps are missing (e.g. your point 5) and be overloaded by maintainer. Of course we want to pu

Re: [arch-dev-public] [RFC] systemd service files policy

2012-08-31 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: >> I think we should _not_ use Type=Forking, except when it's the only choice. >> Systemd prefe

Re: [arch-dev-public] [RFC] Python 3.3.0 and PEP 394

2012-09-13 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 2:00 AM, Stéphane Gaudreault wrote: > Any opinions ? I think this PEP give convention between distro and python developers to have portable scripts. Our part is to provide python2* and python3* symlinks. The dev parts is to use correct sheebang is there scripts (or better,

Re: [arch-dev-public] [RFC] Python 3.3.0 and PEP 394

2012-09-13 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Stéphane Gaudreault wrote: > Le 2012-09-13 08:04, Allan McRae a écrit : > >> On 13/09/12 21:53, Stéphane Gaudreault wrote: >>> >>> Le 2012-09-13 00:18, Allan McRae a écrit : On 13/09/12 10:00, Stéphane Gaudreault wrote: > > Python 3.3.0 should be

[arch-dev-public] [RFC] The path to lua 5.2

2012-09-13 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
Hello, Version 5.2 of lua is out since December 2011 [1] and last update since June 2012. I suggest[2] to update our current lua package to 5.2.1 and introduce a new package lua51. As we need to rebuild and update dependencies of some packages, we can benefits to adopt a clean naming (like for py

Re: [arch-dev-public] [RFC] Python 3.3.0 and PEP 394

2012-09-13 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Florian Pritz wrote: > On 13.09.2012 22:03, Rashif Ray Rahman wrote: >> On 14 September 2012 02:18, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: >>> We also have python libraries not prefixed by python- (e.g: pyalpm, >>> pycups, pygtk, etc), I think

Re: [arch-dev-public] [RFC] dropping cpufrequtils

2012-09-13 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 2:46 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > Hi guys, > > As was discussed some time ago, I'd like to drop cpufrequtils from our > repos. It is dead upstream, and has been replaced by cpupower (in > community). > > I see no reason to move cpupower out of community, but let me know if >

Re: [arch-dev-public] [RFC] dropping cpufrequtils

2012-09-13 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 1:57 AM, Gaetan Bisson wrote: > [2012-09-14 01:43:30 +0200] Sébastien Luttringer: >> Kyle Keen told me on IRC that archboot is now broken because it >> depends of cpufrequtils. > > Anyone can pick it up there and maintain it: > > >

Re: [arch-dev-public] [RFC] The path to lua 5.2

2012-09-18 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Stéphane Gaudreault wrote: > Le 2012-09-13 16:19, Sébastien Luttringer a écrit : > >> Hello, >> >> Version 5.2 of lua is out since December 2011 [1] and last update >> since June 2012. >> >> I suggest[2] to update our

Re: [arch-dev-public] [RFC] The path to lua 5.2

2012-09-18 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:18 PM, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: > On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Stéphane Gaudreault > wrote: >> Le 2012-09-13 16:19, Sébastien Luttringer a écrit : >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Version 5.2 of lua is out since December

Re: [arch-dev-public] [RFC] Python 3.3.0 and PEP 394

2012-09-22 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Rashif Ray Rahman wrote: > Xyne didn't appear to have write access so passing on his message as follows: > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Xyne > Date: 14 September 2012 19:57 > Subject: Re: [arch-dev-public] [RFC] Python 3.3.0 and PEP 394 > > >

Re: [arch-dev-public] Transitioning between incompatible language versions

2012-09-22 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:10 AM, Allan McRae wrote: > Comments? I'd like to get this sorted quickly so we can get the python > and lua rebuilds done. My suggestion would be to simplify the both case into the first. Simpler is the policy, easier is to apply. Here we make 2 cases based on lua and

Re: [arch-dev-public] [RFC] The path to lua 5.2

2012-09-22 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:01 AM, Allan McRae wrote: > I think we should provide lua and lua51 packages with as much as > possible built using the lua (5.2) package and the rest built for lua51. > That may mean we need to provide lua51 versions of libraries too for > the transitional period. > > I

Re: [arch-dev-public] [RFC] btrfs multi-device support in pre-3.6 kernels

2012-10-02 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 1:37 AM, Jan Steffens wrote: > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 1:30 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote: >> >> Any thoughts? > > That's fine, in my opinion. People running Btrfs shouldn't be using an > LTS kernel anyway. Same opinion but can you think about updating btrfs-prog? Kernel 3.6 add

Re: [arch-dev-public] [netcfg] Add to base group?

2012-10-13 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > With systemd being the default, we have no simple network management > besides dhcp by default. Should we add netcfg to the base group so it is > installed by default? > We already have dhcpd in base group. We can enable it to configure dh

Re: [arch-dev-public] consolekit dependencies?

2012-10-13 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Most (all?) of our login manager still depend on consolekit. However, > since consolekit support will be stripped from polkit when > gnome-unstable goes to testing (soon?), registering consolekit sessions > on login has no effect whatsoever

Re: [arch-dev-public] [netcfg] Add to base group?

2012-10-13 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Andreas Radke wrote: > Am Sat, 13 Oct 2012 11:34:58 +0200 > schrieb Thomas Bächler : > >> With systemd being the default, we have no simple network management >> besides dhcp by default. Should we add netcfg to the base group so it >> is installed by default? >> >

Re: [arch-dev-public] Unannounced mass edit of community PKGBUILDs

2012-10-25 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Gaetan Bisson wrote: > [2012-10-25 10:07:09 +0300] Evangelos Foutras: >> I noticed that all of my community packages were modified by r78782 [1] >> (Full pkgdesc cleanup for 2339 packages). > > Being a fierce proponent of single quotes myself, your message gave me

Re: [arch-dev-public] Status of sigurd.archlinux.org/aur.archlinux.org

2012-10-27 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 2:02 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 28.10.2012 01:42, schrieb Ionut Biru: >>> We should finally have proper aliases for these. Like >>> packages-submit.archlinux.org and community-submit.archlinux.org. >>> >>> >> what is the purpose of those? > > Hostnames for subversion an

Re: [arch-dev-public] Status of sigurd.archlinux.org/aur.archlinux.org

2012-10-27 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 2:22 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 28.10.2012 02:10, schrieb Sébastien Luttringer: >> On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 2:02 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: >>> Am 28.10.2012 01:42, schrieb Ionut Biru: >>>>> We should finally have proper alias

Re: [arch-dev-public] [community] migration guide to nymeria

2012-11-13 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:52 AM, Gaetan Bisson wrote: > [2012-11-12 20:07:39 +0100] Florian Pritz: >> [community] has now moved to nymeria. > > Thanks for all the efforts you put into this. > > One remark though: could we lose the last two lines of /etc/bash.bashrc > and keep a vanilla Arch insta

Re: [arch-dev-public] enlightenment dr17

2012-11-19 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Ronald van Haren wrote: > Hi, > > Enlightenment dr17 is going to be released soon (no, really this > time). The libs are already released as stable, while the window > manager is currently released in alpha status and a stable version > will be released in Decembe

Re: [arch-dev-public] [RFC] the future of /media

2012-11-22 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > Hi guys, > > With udisks2 being used by gnome, and about to be used by the next > KDE, some people have raised concerns about the transition from > udisks1 to udisks2. > > The issue is: > > udisks1 mounts your devices to /media, whereas udisk

Re: [arch-dev-public] [RFC] The path to lua 5.2

2012-12-03 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 4:30 AM, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:01 AM, Allan McRae wrote: >> I think we should provide lua and lua51 packages with as much as >> possible built using the lua (5.2) package and the rest built for lua51. >> That may me

Re: [arch-dev-public] [arch-general] Winter Cleanup of [community]

2013-01-20 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:05 AM, Alexander Rødseth wrote: > ndisc6 I took this one. I use it. Cheers, -- Sébastien "Seblu" Luttringer https://www.seblu.net GPG: 0x2072D77A

Re: [arch-dev-public] Clarity about initscripts and systemd status

2013-01-23 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Lukas Jirkovsky wrote: > On 8 November 2012 16:03, Pierre Schmitz wrote: >> Am 07.11.2012 08:59, schrieb Lukas Jirkovsky: >>> It would be great if maintainers who are going to drop the rc scripts >>> from their package would notify me, so I can keep then in a rc-sc

Re: [arch-dev-public] [arch-general] Winter Cleanup of [community]

2013-01-24 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Alexander Rødseth wrote: > lua-sql-mysql > lua-sql-postgres > lua-sql-sqlite This is part of split package luasql, which was maintained by Sergey and was renamed during lua 5.2 upgrade. I believe he does't take it again on archweb. Cheers, -- Sébastien "Seblu" Lu

Re: [arch-dev-public] Drop VI from [core] (was Re: [arch-general] Winter Cleanup of [community])

2013-01-25 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:45 PM, Allan McRae wrote: >> There is nothing stopping us dropping vi completely and just putting vim >> on the install media... > > I'd favor that (as a vim user who always gets confused by vi on the > install me

Re: [arch-dev-public] filesystem package

2013-01-29 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Allan McRae wrote: > On 29/01/13 22:24, Xyne wrote: >>> Yup. For post_upgrade we can depend on 'base' being installed. >> >> Why are you assuming anything? If those packages are needed, why not make >> them >> explicit dependencies? >> >> I don't see how that turn

[arch-dev-public] [RFC] Add Wayland/Weston

2013-02-07 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
Hello gentleman, Wayland is now in version 1.0.4[1]. I plan to move it to community to offer a first support of the wayland protocol into Archlinux. This will allow toolkit[2][3] packages to smoothly enable wayland support when maintainers wants and let users try this next-to-systemd-troll[4]. Af

Re: [arch-dev-public] [arch-commits] Commit in weston/repos (4 files)

2013-02-13 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:06 AM, Allan McRae wrote: > Why are you putting this in [community-testing]? The package is in extra! > Wayland is in extra Weston is in commuity-testing -- Sébastien "Seblu" Luttringer https://www.seblu.net GPG: 0x2072D77A

Re: [arch-dev-public] [RFC] Add Wayland/Weston

2013-02-13 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 1:23 AM, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: > Hello gentleman, > > Wayland is now in version 1.0.4[1]. I plan to move it to community to > offer a first support of the wayland protocol into Archlinux. > This will allow toolkit[2][3] packages to smoothly enable wa

Re: [arch-dev-public] linux-3.8.0-1

2013-02-21 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 4:28 AM, Evangelos Foutras wrote: > On 20/02/13 20:19, Tobias Powalowski wrote: >> Am 20.02.2013 19:13, schrieb Ionut Biru: >>> On 02/20/2013 07:50 PM, Tobias Powalowski wrote: Hi, I built the kernel, now there are issues with nvidia, lirc and propably other

Re: [arch-dev-public] cleaning up unneeded static libraries?

2013-03-02 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Andreas Radke wrote: > Our packages in our repos by default don't need static libraries > (random .a files all around). I think they are a waste of disc space > and abuse bandwidth when uploading/mirroring packages. Most users will > never need them. > > I suggest

Re: [arch-dev-public] [RFC] Add Wayland/Weston

2013-03-02 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:38 AM, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: > On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 1:23 AM, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: >> ... > > Some news from the front: > - Wayland is in extra, thanks to Tom G. for moving it. > - Mesa and cairo have their wayland backend enabled in

Re: [arch-dev-public] cleaning up unneeded static libraries?

2013-03-03 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: > On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Andreas Radke wrote: >> Our packages in our repos by default don't need static libraries >> (random .a files all around). I think they are a waste of disc space >> and abus

Re: [arch-dev-public] cleaning up unneeded static libraries?

2013-03-03 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 2:17 AM, Gaetan Bisson wrote: > [2013-03-02 15:17:02 +0100] Jelle van der Waa: >> Can't we add a rule to namcap, which warns packagers about static libs? >> Then the packager can decide whether they should included or removed. > > Most packagers would not notice or care enou

Re: [arch-dev-public] [core] build report

2013-03-13 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Allan McRae wrote: > Hi, > > This build was done with a chroot containing only base-devel and sudo. > Not many packages failed due to this, and can readily be fixed by adding > makedepends. So it seems the idea of reducing our build chroots down is > good to go!

Re: [arch-dev-public] BIND10? No, thanks.

2013-03-31 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 3:27 AM, Gaetan Bisson wrote: > > Currently we use the BIND code base in two packages: > - dnsutils from [core] provides basic DNS query tools; > - bind from [extra] is the actual name server. > > With the new BIND10 release, the ISC really outdid themselves: all > formerly

Re: [arch-dev-public] pacman-4.1

2013-04-04 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Allan McRae wrote: > Hi, > > Pacman-4.1.0 is released and in the [testing] repos. See my blog [1] > for details of what is new in this release. > With this commit[1], can we assume that install script should now be written in bash? [1] https://projects.archlinux

Re: [arch-dev-public] pacman-4.1

2013-04-05 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 12:25 AM, Allan McRae wrote: > On 05/04/13 07:42, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Allan McRae wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> Pacman-4.1.0 is released and in the [testing] repos. See my blog [

Re: [arch-dev-public] linux-3.9.0-1 in testing

2013-04-30 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Tobias Powalowski wrote: > Hi, > - > virtualbox-modules > Please fix the PKGBUILD that it works with .0 kernels too, I had to > hardcode the 3.9.0 into it. Ah now I see why Ioni had issues with kernel bump. Do you have a way to guess the kernel modules path fro

Re: [arch-dev-public] linux-3.9.0-1 in testing

2013-05-08 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 01.05.2013 01:52, schrieb Sébastien Luttringer: >> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Tobias Powalowski >> wrote: >>> Hi, >> >>> - >>> virtualbox-modules >>> Please fix

Re: [arch-dev-public] Merging the "bin" directories

2013-05-12 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 12.05.2013 13:13, schrieb Tom Gundersen: >>> List of showstoppers: >>> >>> - Shells (with hardcoded paths in users' passwd) >>> - fsck helpers (all hardcoded to be in /sbin) >> >> All mount and fsck helpers should be ok to move to /usr/bi

Re: [arch-dev-public] [arch-commits] Commit in fail2ban/trunk (PKGBUILD)

2013-05-14 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Bartłomiej Piotrowski wrote: > Date: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 @ 22:22:08 > Author: bpiotrowski > Revision: 90846 > > upgpkg: fail2ban 0.8.8-3 > > - correct path to sendmail due to migration to /usr/bin I see you moved exim from /usr/sbin/sendmail to /usr/bin/se

Re: [arch-dev-public] [arch-commits] Commit in fail2ban/trunk (PKGBUILD)

2013-05-14 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:26 PM, Allan McRae wrote: > On 15/05/13 07:17, Dave Reisner wrote: >> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:07:59PM +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote: >>> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:49 PM, Dave Reisner wrote: >>>> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:37:43PM +02

Re: [arch-dev-public] [arch-commits] Commit in fail2ban/trunk (PKGBUILD)

2013-05-15 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Bartłomiej Piotrowski wrote: > On 2013-05-14 22:37, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: >> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Bartłomiej Piotrowski >> wrote: >>> Date: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 @ 22:22:08 >>> Author: bpiotrows

Re: [arch-dev-public] Merging the "bin" directories

2013-05-23 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Allan McRae wrote: > Some packages clearly can not have that done and will > have to wait until we are prepared to replace those directories with > symlinks. > > Once we see how many packages are left, we can start planning to finally > get rid of these directorie

Re: [arch-dev-public] Finishing the /usr move

2013-05-30 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 5:35 AM, Allan McRae wrote: >> On 30/05/13 06:23, Eric Bélanger wrote: >>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Allan McRae wrote: >>> I'm bored of waiting... so lets do this! What a plans with regard to [st

Re: [arch-dev-public] Finishing the /usr move

2013-05-31 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Allan McRae wrote: > And it is now in the [testing] repository. > > A reminder of the upgrade instructions: > > > 1) Fix any non-official packages with files in /bin, /sbin or /usr/sbin > to put those files in /usr/bin. The list of packages to be fixed can be > g

Re: [arch-dev-public] Finishing the /usr move

2013-05-31 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Allan McRae wrote: > On 31/05/13 21:03, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: >> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Allan McRae wrote: >>> And it is now in the [testing] repository. >>> >>> A reminder of the upgrade instructions: >>

Re: [arch-dev-public] [FYI] New developer: Laurent Carlier

2013-06-03 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > Hi all, > > The devs would like to welcome Laurent Carlier (lordheavy) on board as > a new dev. > > Laurent has been a Trusted User for a number of years, and he has a > consistent track-record of being easy to work with, being frequently > av

Re: [arch-dev-public] [arch-general] /etc/shells should keep /bin/zsh

2013-07-01 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Chris Down wrote: > On 1 July 2013 18:32, Allan McRae wrote: >> On 01/07/13 20:11, Karol Blazewicz wrote: >>> I know arch-general si not for reporting bugs and I'm not trying to >>> rush anyone, but it's been already a month of confusion wrt >>> > https://projects

Re: [arch-dev-public] rc.d files, unmaintained packages - and, the quality of our repositories

2013-07-17 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Connor Behan wrote: > > As for the whole "push first discuss later" thing, people shouldn't be > afraid to take this approach. Maybe I misused it but "back in my day" > there was an Arch dev who had wise words >

Re: [arch-dev-public] rc.d files, unmaintained packages - and, the quality of our repositories

2013-07-17 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:58 AM, Massimiliano Torromeo wrote: > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: > >> By your light way of doing, you cause troubles to users of netctl > > > Not taking a particular side here but maybe I'm missing s

[arch-dev-public] Nginx

2013-08-01 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
Hello, Talking about improvment on nginx package with Bartłomiej, it was suggested to push this publicly to let everyone be confident with. Nginx is a web server with modules selected (or added from external sources) at the *build* time. So we cannot package them separately and install them when

Re: [arch-dev-public] Nginx

2013-08-02 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Pierre Schmitz wrote: > Am 02.08.2013 14:14, schrieb Bartłomiej Piotrowski: >> On 2013-08-02 08:41, Pierre Schmitz wrote: > > If you abuse the split package this way, you still have to rebuild and > publish both split packages if e.g. the passenger module requires a

Re: [arch-dev-public] Nginx

2013-08-06 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Pierre Schmitz wrote: > Am 02.08.2013 15:38, schrieb Sébastien Luttringer: > Does anybody know why the devs don't want or implemented modules than > can be loaded at runtime? http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?2,123868,124118#msg-124118 Cheers, -- Sé

Re: [arch-dev-public] Nginx

2013-08-30 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Allan McRae wrote: > On 03/08/13 00:59, Pierre Schmitz wrote: >> Am 02.08.2013 15:38, schrieb Sébastien Luttringer: >>> Nothing should block a nginx update, so if auth-pam is incompatible, >>> it will be dropped. >>> >>&

Re: [arch-dev-public] I do not wish to be a bug tracker webmaster

2013-09-11 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Dan McGee wrote: > Hey guys, > > Since I don't know where to put this, please please PLEASE stop assigning > me to bugs/feature requests/etc. related to the bugtracker. Just because I > maintain the home page doesn't mean I maintain everything web related. I > have

Re: [arch-dev-public] Moving two unneeded orphans from [community] to AUR

2013-11-04 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 04/11/2013 11:54, Alexander Rødseth wrote: > gnome-commander was last updated 2011-12-10, is currently an orphan > and no other package needs it. > https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/gnome-commander/ > > perl-config-ini was last updated 2013-10-28, is currently an orphan > and

Re: [arch-dev-public] Fwd: [arch-commits] Commit in (9 files)

2013-11-27 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 27/11/2013 11:35, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 27.11.2013 11:29, schrieb Allan McRae: >> Please don't do this... 11 line output in post_install. If you >> REALLY need this, use a single line pointing to the wiki page. >> >> Allan > > Usage instructions generally don't belong into install/upgr

Re: [arch-dev-public] Fwd: [arch-commits] Commit in (9 files)

2013-11-27 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 27/11/2013 14:57, Alexander Rødseth wrote: > A bit sad to be starting out the new docker package with "the mark of > shame" (epoch=1), but so be it. ;) > > Summary / suggsted plan: > 1. Rename docker (the old one) to docker-tray and add replaces=('docker=1.5') > 2. Upload and add epoch=1 to doc

Re: [arch-dev-public] Fwd: [arch-commits] Commit in (9 files)

2013-11-27 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 27/11/2013 15:31, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: > On 27/11/2013 14:57, Alexander Rødseth wrote: >> A bit sad to be starting out the new docker package with "the mark of >> shame" (epoch=1), but so be it. ;) >> > I'm waiting some answer before pushing this pa

Re: [arch-dev-public] Fwd: [arch-commits] Commit in (9 files)

2013-11-28 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 28/11/2013 07:22, Daniel Isenmann wrote: > Am 28.11.2013 02:15, schrieb Sébastien Luttringer: >> On 27/11/2013 15:31, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: >>> On 27/11/2013 14:57, Alexander Rødseth wrote: >>>> A bit sad to be starting out the new docker package with &qu

Re: [arch-dev-public] Fwd: [arch-commits] Commit in (9 files)

2013-12-03 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 28/11/2013 22:33, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: > On 28/11/2013 07:22, Daniel Isenmann wrote: >> Am 28.11.2013 02:15, schrieb Sébastien Luttringer: >>> On 27/11/2013 15:31, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: >>>> On 27/11/2013 14:57, Alexander Rødseth wrote: > Daniel,

Re: [arch-dev-public] Fwd: [arch-commits] Commit in (9 files)

2013-12-05 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 05/12/2013 09:15, Daniel Isenmann wrote: > Am 04.12.2013 00:21, schrieb Sébastien Luttringer: >> On 28/11/2013 22:33, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: >>> On 28/11/2013 07:22, Daniel Isenmann wrote: >>>> Am 28.11.2013 02:15, schrieb Sébastien Luttringer: >&g

Re: [arch-dev-public] libaacs - suitable for [community]?

2014-01-07 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 07/01/2014 16:53, Martin Wimpress wrote: > > Thoughts? > Debian, which is known to be strict with inclusion of packages in their main "section", ships this library with the following note. This package DOES NOT provide any key or certificate that could be used to decode encrypted copyrighted

[arch-dev-public] Moving packages into community

2014-02-10 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
Hi, Most of the time, when a TU is working on adding a new package to community, he could: - Send a message on aur-gene...@al.org - Write some lines in the AUR package comments - Open a BR for inclusion - Push his new package to community. This let him time to carefully: - Test his modification -

Re: [arch-dev-public] Moving packages into community

2014-02-11 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 11/02/2014 14:39, Bartłomiej Piotrowski wrote: > On 02/11/2014 02:37 AM, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: >> - Send a message on aur-gene...@al.org >> - Write some lines in the AUR package comments >> - Open a BR for inclusion >> - Push his new package to community T

Re: [arch-dev-public] Looking for maintainers for a few packages

2014-03-08 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 08/03/2014 04:59, Allan McRae wrote: > I can spend more time dealing with pacman > (the patches pile up faster than I can deal with them and > there are things I want to implement...). Nice! > > Here is a list of what is on offer: > All these packages interest me, but I prefer only take care

Re: [arch-dev-public] brynhild down a.k.a pkgbuild.com

2014-03-22 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 22/03/2014 18:15, Ionuț Bîru wrote: > Update, they found nothing, that's not a surprise and we always had a > problem with it (bit flip problem from time to time). > > I think is time to stop using this server and get a newer one. > > You guys mentioned that ecc it's a must. They have ex60 now

Re: [arch-dev-public] brynhild down a.k.a pkgbuild.com

2014-03-24 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 22/03/2014 19:50, Florian Pritz wrote: > Disclaimer: I have experience with multiple Hetzner boxes, their support > work flow and they have a forum which has a good amount of insider info > which I like a lot. Better the devil you know ... The relation with your box provider is very important an

[arch-dev-public] [RFC] Add ARM to archlinux.org

2014-03-24 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
Hello, As you may know I'm running ARM[1] since the last maintainer resign in August 2013. I would like to propose its addition into our official services. My current suggestion is to keep the current server and hierarchy and to move it under an archlinux.org subdomain. So far, best suggestions a

Re: [arch-dev-public] [RFC] Add ARM to archlinux.org

2014-03-24 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 24/03/2014 23:50, Dave Reisner wrote: > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 11:35:36PM +0100, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: > Does 2013 cover the whole year? Four full months. More details in listing this page[1] > You're suggesting that 2014 will occupy > over 200GB. We'd need new i

Re: [arch-dev-public] [RFC] Add ARM to archlinux.org

2014-03-24 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 25/03/2014 01:44, Dave Reisner wrote: > Right, but throwing this responsibility on the arms of Arch developers > isn't really a solution, either, without quiescence. You seem to be of > the mindset of that adding this to the archlinux.org domain will > magically lighten your own sysadmin load.

Re: [arch-dev-public] [RFC] Add ARM to archlinux.org

2014-03-24 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 25/03/2014 02:02, Gaetan Bisson wrote: > [2014-03-25 00:55:51 +0100] Sébastien Luttringer: >> On 24/03/2014 23:50, Dave Reisner wrote: >>> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 11:35:36PM +0100, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: >>> Does 2013 cover the whole year? > That'd t

Re: [arch-dev-public] [RFC] Add ARM to archlinux.org

2014-03-24 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 25/03/2014 02:15, keenerd wrote: > On 3/24/14, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: > The Rollback Machine has a convenient CLI wrapper to access packages. > Have you tried using the Rollback Machine with just a browser? It is > nearly impossible. The CLI wrapper makes it much nicer. I al

Re: [arch-dev-public] [RFC] Add ARM to archlinux.org

2014-03-25 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 25/03/2014 08:04, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 24.03.2014 23:35, schrieb Sébastien Luttringer: >> Hello, >> >> As you may know I'm running ARM[1] since the last maintainer resign in >> August 2013. I would like to propose its addition into our official >> ser

Re: [arch-dev-public] providing grsecurity in [community]

2014-04-18 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 16/04/2014 06:09, Daniel Micay wrote: > To go along with this, I'm interested in maintaining the grsecurity > kernel and userspace tools in [community] to provide a hardened kernel > and role-based access control system. How do you/we will handle off stream kernel modules rebuild? Each modules

Re: [arch-dev-public] providing grsecurity in [community]

2014-04-18 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 18/04/2014 10:44, Daniel Micay wrote: > On 18/04/14 04:09 AM, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: >> On 16/04/2014 06:09, Daniel Micay wrote: > I could build these myself when I push a new version, because there > aren't many of them. When I will push a new version of Virtual

Re: [arch-dev-public] providing grsecurity in [community]

2014-04-18 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 18/04/2014 11:40, Massimiliano Torromeo wrote: > In data venerdì 18 aprile 2014 11:34:14, Sébastien Luttringer ha scritto: >> On 18/04/2014 10:44, Daniel Micay wrote: >>> On 18/04/14 04:09 AM, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: >>>> On 16/04/2014 06:09, Daniel Micay

Re: [arch-dev-public] providing grsecurity in [community]

2014-04-18 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 18/04/2014 13:07, Daniel Micay wrote: > On 18/04/14 05:34 AM, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: >> On 18/04/2014 10:44, Daniel Micay wrote: >>> On 18/04/14 04:09 AM, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: >>>> On 16/04/2014 06:09, Daniel Micay wrote: > There's no problem

Re: [arch-dev-public] providing grsecurity in [community]

2014-04-20 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 19/04/2014 01:21, Connor Behan wrote: > On 18/04/14 04:09 AM, S?bastien Luttringer wrote: >> On 16/04/2014 06:09, Daniel Micay wrote: >>> I don't think it makes sense to bother with the >>> nvidia module because it would be a bit silly to mix it with grsecurity. >>> >> Why user with nvidia cards

Re: [arch-dev-public] perf-trace missing due to a dependency on libaudit

2014-05-07 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 05/05/2014 00:56, Daniel Micay wrote: > The lesser evil seems to be adding only a libaudit package... but it's > still not going to work if someone tries to use it for what it's > intended to do. I'll probably go with this if there's no saner idea. I think it's a good thing to restore "perf trac

Re: [arch-dev-public] [Draft] MariaDB 10.0 enters [extra]

2014-05-17 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 17/05/2014 14:57, Allan McRae wrote: > On 17/05/14 22:40, Bartłomiej Piotrowski wrote: >> It's temporarily >> built using Clang, mainly because new gcc snapshot hasn't fixed >> segfaults for everyone. > > Please file bug reports for breakages caused by the gcc update. I can > not track/report/

[arch-dev-public] Moving network stuff to extra

2014-06-25 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
Hello, I plan to move netfilter libraries and tools to extra to have all the basic kernel network tools into our first class repository :) We currently have iptables in core but ebtables, arptables and the next generation framework nftables into community. I'm also thinking about moving some wid

Re: [arch-dev-public] [RFC] Moving mail away from gerolde

2014-06-25 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 25/06/2014 22:17, Florian Pritz wrote: > On 23.06.2014 19:42, Florian Pritz wrote: >> I haven't yet look into also migrating mailman from gudrun to nymeria >> or maybe alderaan. > > When I created aur-requests I had to edit 3 files on 2 hosts to get the > list to work. I'd like to change that

Re: [arch-dev-public] [arch-commits] Commit in arpwatch/trunk (PKGBUILD)

2014-07-05 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
Hi, That's not a smooth change! Although that seems an easy way to differentiate arpwatch traffic from root one, a small message in the .install should be the minimum. That break most users setup. Regards, On 06/06/2014 19:28, Sergej Pupykin wrote: > Date: Friday, June 6, 2014 @ 19:28:18 >

[arch-dev-public] Virtualbox binary modules maintainer

2014-07-16 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
Ehlo, Last maintainer of virtualbox binary modules has resigned. These packages[1] are generated from virtualbox-guest-dkms and virtualbox-host-dkms each time a new linux or linux-lts package are released. Is there a volunteer to take care of them and handle rebuilds ? Although, I would prefer

Re: [arch-dev-public] Virtualbox binary modules maintainer

2014-07-16 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 16/07/2014 19:39, Dave Reisner wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 07:26:16PM +0200, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: > I guess this is/was you? It was Bartłomiej. > I'm not interested, but this is pretty vague. How much time is involved? > How often? Are there open bugs? Have you wor

Re: [arch-dev-public] Virtualbox binary modules maintainer

2014-07-16 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 16/07/2014 22:13, Dave Reisner wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 09:05:50PM +0200, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: >> On 16/07/2014 19:39, Dave Reisner wrote: >>> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 07:26:16PM +0200, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: > Building modules on boot is doing it too l

Re: [arch-dev-public] [arch-commits] Commit in roundcubemail/trunk (PKGBUILD)

2014-07-22 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
Sergej, That's not *again* a smooth change! It breaks the logs and files upload for person using the previous default config. Why do not you put a message to inform that you will change paths? Regards, On 25/06/2014 19:06, Sergej Pupykin wrote: > Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 @ 19:06:46

Re: [arch-dev-public] systemd 216 coming soon to testing

2014-08-24 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 20/08/2014 20:25, Dave Reisner wrote: > For packagers: > - systemd-sysusers is now a reasonable thing as it now reads and writes > to /etc/shadow and /etc/gshadow. This means that we can simplify the > filesystem package immensely, and packages which want to ship their > own runtime users

Re: [arch-dev-public] perf-trace missing due to a dependency on libaudit

2014-08-26 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 05/05/2014 00:56, Daniel Micay wrote: > Sadly, the `perf trace` command has a dependency on libaudit for a few > convenience functions. I'm curious about what people feel the best > approach would be here... adding back audit to [community] is ugly since > it's not going to work, but building it

Re: [arch-dev-public] Fosdem 2015

2014-08-28 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 28/08/2014 20:07, Jelle van der Waa wrote: > If we want to organise something as Arch Linux we have > to pay attention to the following dates: I'll be there too. That would be great if we could use this European event to spend some time together. I'm sure this will improve our way of working to

Re: [arch-dev-public] Virtualbox binary modules maintainer

2014-09-06 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 16/07/2014 19:26, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: > Last maintainer of virtualbox binary modules has resigned. For the last releases of linux-lts[1], virtualbox-modules-lts[2] was not rebuilt, resulting in bug reports[3][4] with nobody interested to fix. > Is there a volunteer to take care o

Re: [arch-dev-public] perf-trace missing due to a dependency on libaudit

2014-09-23 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 26/08/2014 11:18, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: > On 05/05/2014 00:56, Daniel Micay wrote: >> The lesser evil seems to be adding only a libaudit package... but it's >> still not going to work if someone tries to use it for what it's >> intended to do. I'll

Re: [arch-dev-public] Mailinglist setup changes

2014-09-26 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 26/09/2014 18:44, Florian Pritz wrote: > Hi, > > As discussed a couple months ago I've finally moved mailman from gudrun > to luna. > > Creating new lists from the web interface will now work without admin > intervention, but the new list will only be available via > listn...@lists.archlinux.o

Re: [arch-dev-public] [arch-events] Arch Linux lanyards for FOSDEM

2015-01-08 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 08/01/2015 12:05, Andrea Scarpino wrote: > I'd like to know how many AL devs/TUs will participate to FOSDEM so I can > keep one for each official contributor at least. > I have not booked yet, but I plan to come. Cheers, -- Sébastien "Seblu" Luttringer Archlinux Developer https://seblu.net

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