[arch-general] pm-hibernate not working since update to 3.4.5-1-ARCH

2012-07-20 Thread Arvid Warnecke
Hello, I have already been used to not beeing able to suspend my MacBook Pro since the buggy nvidia version which came with 3.4.x kernel. But as of the latest updates which brought kernel 3.4.5-1 I am not able to use pm-hibernate anymore. When looking into /var/log/pm-suspend.log it seems that

Re: [arch-general] pm-hibernate not working since update to 3.4.5-1-ARCH

2012-07-20 Thread Ike Devolder
Op vrijdag 20 juli 2012 08:05:33 schreef Arvid Warnecke: Hello, I have already been used to not beeing able to suspend my MacBook Pro since the buggy nvidia version which came with 3.4.x kernel. But as of the latest updates which brought kernel 3.4.5-1 I am not able to use pm-hibernate

Re: [arch-general] pm-hibernate not working since update to 3.4.5-1-ARCH

2012-07-20 Thread Mantas Mikulėnas
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Arvid Warnecke ar...@nostalgix.org wrote: When looking into /var/log/pm-suspend.log it seems that hibernating went well: lots of success messages and no errors. But when I then start the MacBook again it does not resume but boots normally. fsck detects that

Re: [arch-general] Virtualbox-modules are again busted with new testing kernel

2012-07-20 Thread Ionut Biru
On 07/20/2012 01:56 PM, fredbezies wrote: Well, looks like Ionut Biru forget to rebuild virtualbox modules. Both vboxdrv and vboxnetflt cannot be loaded. A rebuild of virtualbox-modules fixed it :) I did not forget, Tobias just doesn't use staging and proper todo lists to coordinate the

Re: [arch-general] Updating AUR package with pacman

2012-07-20 Thread Karol Blazewicz
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@googlemail.com wrote: Packer must be new somehow, did not hear about it before (only about yaourt). The thread is 2.5 years old https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=88115 and the wiki https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR_Helpers

Re: [arch-general] Virtualbox-modules are again busted with new testing kernel

2012-07-20 Thread fredbezies
2012/7/20 Ionut Biru ib...@archlinux.org: On 07/20/2012 01:56 PM, fredbezies wrote: Well, looks like Ionut Biru forget to rebuild virtualbox modules. Both vboxdrv and vboxnetflt cannot be loaded. A rebuild of virtualbox-modules fixed it :) I did not forget, Tobias just doesn't use staging

Re: [arch-general] pm-hibernate not working since update to 3.4.5-1-ARCH

2012-07-20 Thread Lukáš Jirkovský
On 20 July 2012 09:27, Ike Devolder ike.devol...@gmail.com wrote: could you try the same with the long lived branch of nvidia utils and drivers? these are at version 295.59 nvidia-ll: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=60602 nvidia-utils-ll:

Re: [arch-general] pm-hibernate not working since update to 3.4.5-1-ARCH

2012-07-20 Thread Ike Devolder
Op vrijdag 20 juli 2012 16:11:43 schreef Lukáš Jirkovský: On 20 July 2012 09:27, Ike Devolder ike.devol...@gmail.com wrote: could you try the same with the long lived branch of nvidia utils and drivers? these are at version 295.59 nvidia-ll:

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-20 Thread D. R. Evans
Guus Snijders said the following at 07/20/2012 04:13 AM : I'm a bit confused at this point if filesystem is now upgraded or not. Your confusion can't possibly be as great as mine :-) There's nothing on this system that hasn't come from either AUR or the official arch repositories, so I don't

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-20 Thread D. R. Evans
Norbert Zeh said the following at 07/19/2012 06:08 PM : Well, the filesystem instructions are older and applied at the time the glibc upgrade was not an issue yet. Combining the two instructions, I would guess the following should work: pacman -Syu --ignore filesystem --ignore glibc

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-20 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Guus Snijders gsnijd...@gmail.com wrote: I'm a bit confused at this point if filesystem is now upgraded or not. If i understand correctly, the symlinks for /var/run and /var/lock are there already. You should always have the symlink, regardless of whether or

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-20 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 4:21 PM, D. R. Evans doc.ev...@gmail.com wrote: There's nothing on this system that hasn't come from either AUR or the official arch repositories, so I don't know why I'm having any problems at all :-( I have seen people having problems because they installed packages

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-20 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 4:27 PM, D. R. Evans doc.ev...@gmail.com wrote: Norbert Zeh said the following at 07/19/2012 06:08 PM : Well, the filesystem instructions are older and applied at the time the glibc upgrade was not an issue yet. Combining the two instructions, I would guess the

Re: [arch-general] pm-hibernate not working since update to 3.4.5-1-ARCH

2012-07-20 Thread Arvid Warnecke
Hello, On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 04:14:35PM +0200, Ike Devolder wrote: Op vrijdag 20 juli 2012 16:11:43 schreef Lukáš Jirkovský: On 20 July 2012 09:27, Ike Devolder ike.devol...@gmail.com wrote: could you try the same with the long lived branch of nvidia utils and drivers? these are

Re: [arch-general] pm-hibernate not working since update to 3.4.5-1-ARCH

2012-07-20 Thread Arvid Warnecke
Hello, On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 10:40:21AM +0300, Mantas Mikulėnas wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Arvid Warnecke ar...@nostalgix.org wrote: When looking into /var/log/pm-suspend.log it seems that hibernating went well: lots of success messages and no errors. But when I then start

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-20 Thread Baho Utot
On 07/20/2012 10:27 AM, D. R. Evans wrote: Norbert Zeh said the following at 07/19/2012 06:08 PM : Well, the filesystem instructions are older and applied at the time the glibc upgrade was not an issue yet. Combining the two instructions, I would guess the following should work: pacman -Syu

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-20 Thread Baho Utot
On 07/20/2012 10:47 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 4:21 PM, D. R. Evans doc.ev...@gmail.com wrote: There's nothing on this system that hasn't come from either AUR or the official arch repositories, so I don't know why I'm having any problems at all :-( I have seen people

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-20 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Jul 20, 2012 6:08 PM, Baho Utot baho-u...@columbus.rr.com wrote: On 07/20/2012 10:47 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 4:21 PM, D. R. Evans doc.ev...@gmail.com wrote: There's nothing on this system that hasn't come from either AUR or the official arch repositories, so I

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-20 Thread Guus Snijders
Op 20 jul. 2012 16:21 schreef D. R. Evans doc.ev...@gmail.com het volgende: Guus Snijders said the following at 07/20/2012 04:13 AM : [...] If i understand correctly, the symlinks for /var/run and /var/lock are there already. Yes. If fileystem is not yet upgraded, what might just

Re: [arch-general] pm-hibernate not working since update to 3.4.5-1-ARCH

2012-07-20 Thread Ike Devolder
Op vrijdag 20 juli 2012 17:11:12 schreef Arvid Warnecke: Hello, On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 04:14:35PM +0200, Ike Devolder wrote: Op vrijdag 20 juli 2012 16:11:43 schreef Lukáš Jirkovský: On 20 July 2012 09:27, Ike Devolder ike.devol...@gmail.com wrote: could you try the same with the long

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-20 Thread Norbert Zeh
D. R. Evans [2012.07.20 0827 -0600]: Norbert Zeh said the following at 07/19/2012 06:08 PM : Well, the filesystem instructions are older and applied at the time the glibc upgrade was not an issue yet. Combining the two instructions, I would guess the following should work:

[arch-general] python needs /usr/include/?

2012-07-20 Thread Christian Hesse
Hello everybody, I am creating live media and want to reduce size. After removing /usr/include/ wicd fails to start because of a missing header file. Is this expected behavior? I thought /usr/include/ is only needed for compilation and not as runtime dependency. -- main(a){char*c=/*Schoene

[arch-general] Roadmap for user-intervention upgrades [was: Still Glibc problems]

2012-07-20 Thread Manolo Martínez
On 07/20/12 at 03:27pm, Norbert Zeh wrote: I think the reason why you are having a much more serious issue is that it seems you haven't updated your system in a long time. So now you're running into dealing with two slightly tricky upgrades (filesystem + glibc) at the same time. I've had

Re: [arch-general] Roadmap for user-intervention upgrades [was: Still Glibc problems]

2012-07-20 Thread Matthew Monaco
On 07/20/2012 12:41 PM, Manolo Martínez wrote: It would also be nice to know a bit more of the rationale behind the moves. I'm sure that they are all for the best, and I trust arch decision-makers (and one can find out more about the changes by reading blogs and forum discussions), but still

Re: [arch-general] Roadmap for user-intervention upgrades [was: Still Glibc problems]

2012-07-20 Thread Daniel Wallace
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 02:41:44PM -0400, Manolo Martínez wrote: On 07/20/12 at 03:27pm, Norbert Zeh wrote: I think the reason why you are having a much more serious issue is that it seems you haven't updated your system in a long time. So now you're running into dealing with two

Re: [arch-general] Roadmap for user-intervention upgrades [was: Still Glibc problems]

2012-07-20 Thread Manolo Martínez
On 07/20/12 at 02:56pm, Daniel Wallace wrote: All of those changes were discussed by the devs on arch-dev-public filesystem - http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2012-June/023014.html grub - http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2012-June/023147.html

Re: [arch-general] Roadmap for user-intervention upgrades [was: Still Glibc problems]

2012-07-20 Thread Florian Pritz
On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:15:47 -0400 Manolo Martínez man...@austrohungaro.com wrote: On 07/20/12 at 02:56pm, Daniel Wallace wrote: All of those changes were discussed by the devs on arch-dev-public I, for one, thought that running archlinux responsibly only committed me to subscribing to and

Re: [arch-general] Roadmap for user-intervention upgrades [was: Still Glibc problems]

2012-07-20 Thread Manolo Martínez
On 07/20/12 at 09:31pm, Florian Pritz wrote: On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:15:47 -0400 Manolo Martínez man...@austrohungaro.com wrote: On 07/20/12 at 02:56pm, Daniel Wallace wrote: All of those changes were discussed by the devs on arch-dev-public I, for one, thought that running archlinux

Re: [arch-general] Roadmap for user-intervention upgrades [was: Still Glibc problems]

2012-07-20 Thread Daenyth
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Manolo Martínez man...@austrohungaro.com wrote: On 07/20/12 at 09:31pm, Florian Pritz wrote: On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:15:47 -0400 Manolo Martínez man...@austrohungaro.com wrote: On 07/20/12 at 02:56pm, Daniel Wallace wrote: All of those changes were

Re: [arch-general] pm-hibernate not working since update to 3.4.5-1-ARCH

2012-07-20 Thread Arvid Warnecke
Hello Ike, On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 09:27:22AM +0200, Ike Devolder wrote: Op vrijdag 20 juli 2012 08:05:33 schreef Arvid Warnecke: I have already been used to not beeing able to suspend my MacBook Pro since the buggy nvidia version which came with 3.4.x kernel. But as of the latest updates

Re: [arch-general] pm-hibernate not working since update to 3.4.5-1-ARCH

2012-07-20 Thread Daniel Wallace
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 09:53:01PM +0200, Arvid Warnecke wrote: Hello Ike, On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 09:27:22AM +0200, Ike Devolder wrote: Op vrijdag 20 juli 2012 08:05:33 schreef Arvid Warnecke: I have already been used to not beeing able to suspend my MacBook Pro since the buggy nvidia

Re: [arch-general] pm-hibernate not working since update to 3.4.5-1-ARCH

2012-07-20 Thread Arvid Warnecke
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 03:52:34PM -0400, Daniel Wallace wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 09:53:01PM +0200, Arvid Warnecke wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 09:27:22AM +0200, Ike Devolder wrote: could you try the same with the long lived branch of nvidia utils and drivers? these are at

Re: [arch-general] pm-hibernate not working since update to 3.4.5-1-ARCH

2012-07-20 Thread Ike Devolder
Op vrijdag 20 juli 2012 22:06:31 schreef Arvid Warnecke: On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 03:52:34PM -0400, Daniel Wallace wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 09:53:01PM +0200, Arvid Warnecke wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 09:27:22AM +0200, Ike Devolder wrote: could you try the same with the long

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-20 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/20/12 07:47, Tom Gundersen wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 4:21 PM, D. R. Evans doc.ev...@gmail.com wrote: There's nothing on this system that hasn't come from either AUR or the official arch repositories, so I don't know why I'm having any

[arch-general] glibc 2.15 - glibc 2.16 New Build Failures (scope primarily) Expected??

2012-07-20 Thread David C. Rankin
Guys, After going though the usrlib/glibc update and creating a new archroot for building, I am getting build failures in trinity k3b and k9copy. Both packages built without error on 7/14 prior to my update. Following update I experience the following: k3b: summary:

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-20 Thread D. R. Evans
Norbert Zeh said the following at 07/20/2012 12:27 PM : think the reason why you are having a much more serious issue is that it seems you haven't updated your system in a long time. So now you're running into Approximately a month, I believe. Certainly not a whole lot longer. I don't regard

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-20 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 10:36 PM, D. R. Evans doc.ev...@gmail.com wrote: Norbert Zeh said the following at 07/20/2012 12:27 PM : think the reason why you are having a much more serious issue is that it seems you haven't updated your system in a long time. So now you're running into

Re: [arch-general] Roadmap for user-intervention upgrades [was: Still Glibc problems]

2012-07-20 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Manolo Martínez man...@austrohungaro.com wrote: On 07/20/12 at 09:31pm, Florian Pritz wrote: On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:15:47 -0400 Manolo Martínez man...@austrohungaro.com wrote: On 07/20/12 at 02:56pm, Daniel Wallace wrote: All of those changes were

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-20 Thread D. R. Evans
Tom Gundersen said the following at 07/20/2012 02:41 PM : On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 10:36 PM, D. R. Evans doc.ev...@gmail.com wrote: Norbert Zeh said the following at 07/20/2012 12:27 PM : think the reason why you are having a much more serious issue is that it seems you haven't updated your

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-20 Thread D. R. Evans
Norbert Zeh said the following at 07/19/2012 06:08 PM : Well, the filesystem instructions are older and applied at the time the glibc upgrade was not an issue yet. Combining the two instructions, I would guess the following should work: pacman -Syu --ignore filesystem --ignore glibc

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-20 Thread Baho Utot
On 07/20/2012 12:46 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: On Jul 20, 2012 6:08 PM, Baho Utot baho-u...@columbus.rr.com wrote: On 07/20/2012 10:47 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 4:21 PM, D. R. Evans doc.ev...@gmail.com wrote: There's nothing on this system that hasn't come from either AUR

Re: [arch-general] python needs /usr/include/?

2012-07-20 Thread Rodrigo Rivas
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Christian Hesse l...@eworm.de wrote: Hello everybody, I am creating live media and want to reduce size. After removing /usr/include/ wicd fails to start because of a missing header file. Do you know which one is trying to read? If not, you could try running

Re: [arch-general] python needs /usr/include/?

2012-07-20 Thread Rodrigo Rivas
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 12:25 AM, Rodrigo Rivas rodrigorivasco...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Christian Hesse l...@eworm.de wrote: Hello everybody, I am creating live media and want to reduce size. After removing /usr/include/ wicd fails to start because of a missing

Re: [arch-general] Roadmap for user-intervention upgrades [was: Still Glibc problems]

2012-07-20 Thread Manolo Martínez
On 07/20/12 at 10:45pm, Tom Gundersen wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Manolo Martínez man...@austrohungaro.com wrote: On 07/20/12 at 09:31pm, Florian Pritz wrote: On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:15:47 -0400 Manolo Martínez man...@austrohungaro.com wrote: On 07/20/12 at 02:56pm, Daniel

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-20 Thread Norbert Zeh
D. R. Evans [2012.07.20 1541 -0600]: Norbert Zeh said the following at 07/19/2012 06:08 PM : Well, the filesystem instructions are older and applied at the time the glibc upgrade was not an issue yet. Combining the two instructions, I would guess the following should work:

Re: [arch-general] Roadmap for user-intervention upgrades [was: Still Glibc problems]

2012-07-20 Thread Guus Snijders
Op 21 jul. 2012 01:13 schreef Manolo Martínez man...@austrohungaro.com het volgende: OK. I'll subscribe to arch-dev-public, then. I think it would be good if the mailing lists page at archlinux.org explained what one is to expect from each mailing list, and maybe recommend which mailing lists

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-20 Thread David C. Rankin
On 07/20/2012 04:45 PM, Baho Utot wrote: On 07/20/2012 12:46 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: On Jul 20, 2012 6:08 PM, Baho Utot baho-u...@columbus.rr.com wrote: On 07/20/2012 10:47 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 4:21 PM, D. R. Evans doc.ev...@gmail.com wrote: There's nothing on