Re: [arch-general] jack qjackctl

2010-04-07 Thread Philipp
Excerpts from Allan McRae's message of 2010-04-07 03:06:50 +0200: On 07/04/10 10:21, Philipp wrote: Excerpts from fons's message of 2010-04-07 00:46:09 +0200: It seems like Arch is currently offering Jack and qjackctl packages that are not compatible. The Jack authors changed one some

Re: [arch-general] jack qjackctl

2010-04-07 Thread fons
On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 02:21:20AM +0200, Philipp wrote: Excerpts from fons's message of 2010-04-07 00:46:09 +0200: It seems like Arch is currently offering Jack and qjackctl packages that are not compatible. The Jack authors changed one some command line options in 0.118. '-R' for

Re: [arch-general] jack qjackctl

2010-04-07 Thread Ray Rashif
On 7 April 2010 17:24, f...@kokkinizita.net wrote: On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 02:21:20AM +0200, Philipp wrote: Excerpts from fons's message of 2010-04-07 00:46:09 +0200: It seems like Arch is currently offering Jack and qjackctl packages that are not compatible. The Jack authors changed

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] openssl 1.0 rebuild

2010-04-07 Thread Jim Pryor
On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 11:49:10AM +0200, Thomas Bächler wrote: Am 30.03.2010 03:36, schrieb Pierre Schmitz: I created a rebuld list for the just released openssl 1.0.0 (Thanks Dan for fixing the todo list that fast!). These are 236 packages for each architecture; so this will need some

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] WARNING: [testing] broken due to openssl and heimdal rebuilds

2010-04-07 Thread Florian Pritz
On 07.04.2010 06:42, Pierre Schmitz wrote: I just tested what happens if I change pacman depends to 'libarchive=2.8.3-3' 'libfetch=2.30-3'. Maybe start using sodeps to generate those dependencies? libfetch (doesn't have a soname with version btw) would depend on the new openssl libs and pacman

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] WARNING: [testing] broken due to openssl and heimdal rebuilds

2010-04-07 Thread Allan McRae
On 07/04/10 23:47, Florian Pritz wrote: On 07.04.2010 06:42, Pierre Schmitz wrote: I just tested what happens if I change pacman depends to 'libarchive=2.8.3-3' 'libfetch=2.30-3'. Maybe start using sodeps to generate those dependencies? libfetch (doesn't have a soname with version btw) would

[arch-general] keyboard not working in Xorg after package updates

2010-04-07 Thread David Rosenstrauch
I upgraded my extremely not-up-to-date server last night (523 packages upgraded). The upgrade generally went well, except for one significant issue: the keyboard is no longer working under Xorg. It works fine in a command line tty though (i.e., ctrl-alt-F1). Not sure what the problem is,

Re: [arch-general] keyboard not working in Xorg after package updates

2010-04-07 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:32 PM, David Rosenstrauch dar...@darose.net wrote: I upgraded my extremely not-up-to-date server last night (523 packages upgraded).  The upgrade generally went well, except for one significant issue:  the keyboard is no longer working under Xorg.  It works fine in a

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] WARNING: [testing] broken due to openssl and heimdal rebuilds

2010-04-07 Thread Florian Pritz
On 07.04.2010 16:10, Allan McRae wrote: This would really not help here. Pacman does not directly link openssl, but does through libarchive and libfetch. Adding versioned libarchive and libfetch to pacman's deps and using sodeps on openssl in those packages would prevent pacman's

Re: [arch-general] keyboard not working in Xorg after package updates

2010-04-07 Thread David Rosenstrauch
On 04/07/2010 10:46 AM, Xavier Chantry wrote: Can you attach full Xorg log and config ? I'm not using any xorg config. Log is at: http://www.darose.net/Xorg.0.log And does it work with xf86-input-keyboard driver ? I have xf86-input-keyboard installed. I assumed X was just automatically

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] WARNING: [testing] broken due to openssl and heimdal rebuilds

2010-04-07 Thread Allan McRae
On 08/04/10 00:54, Florian Pritz wrote: On 07.04.2010 16:10, Allan McRae wrote: This would really not help here. Pacman does not directly link openssl, but does through libarchive and libfetch. Adding versioned libarchive and libfetch to pacman's deps and using sodeps on openssl in those

Re: [arch-general] keyboard not working in Xorg after package updates

2010-04-07 Thread David C. Rankin
On 04/07/2010 09:55 AM, David Rosenstrauch wrote: On 04/07/2010 10:46 AM, Xavier Chantry wrote: Can you attach full Xorg log and config ? I'm not using any xorg config. Log is at: http://www.darose.net/Xorg.0.log And does it work with xf86-input-keyboard driver ? I have

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux Release Question

2010-04-07 Thread David C. Rankin
On 04/03/2010 04:59 PM, Keith Hinton wrote: Hi, First of all, if anyone is curious as to why I have posted to the Arch-General mailing list, I'm mainly doing this, in case any of the Arch Release team is actually hanging out on this list. I was curious, seeing as the last Arch Linux release

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux Release Question

2010-04-07 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:44:22 -0500, David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: ... It doesn't matter whether you use the latest install set or the one from 3 'releases' back, after the first update, you will have the exact same, current Arch Linux we all have. It's not entirely

Re: [arch-general] keyboard not working in Xorg after package updates

2010-04-07 Thread Evangelos Foutras
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 8:35 PM, David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: On the same note, after the latest Xorg update, X (nVidia card) was failing to start on the same xorg.conf I had used with my arch box since I first installed arch. Add a ServerFlags section to your

Re: [arch-general] keyboard not working in Xorg after package updates

2010-04-07 Thread David Rosenstrauch
On 04/07/2010 10:55 AM, David Rosenstrauch wrote: On 04/07/2010 10:46 AM, Xavier Chantry wrote: Can you attach full Xorg log and config ? I'm not using any xorg config. Log is at: http://www.darose.net/Xorg.0.log And does it work with xf86-input-keyboard driver ? I have

Re: [arch-general] keyboard not working in Xorg after package updates

2010-04-07 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:59 PM, David Rosenstrauch dar...@darose.net wrote: Anybody have any ideas on this?  GUI is completely unusable on the server until I solve this!  :-( I really have zero idea what's going on.  And it's a difficult thing to find good specific search terms for, as

[arch-general] nvidia with latest Xorg

2010-04-07 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:35 PM, David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: On 04/07/2010 09:55 AM, David Rosenstrauch wrote: On 04/07/2010 10:46 AM, Xavier Chantry wrote: Can you attach full Xorg log and config ? I'm not using any xorg config.  Log is at:

Re: [arch-general] keyboard not working in Xorg after package updates

2010-04-07 Thread Matěj Týč
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 20:56 +0300, Evangelos Foutras wrote: On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 8:35 PM, David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: On the same note, after the latest Xorg update, X (nVidia card) was failing to start on the same xorg.conf I had used with my arch box since I

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux Release Question

2010-04-07 Thread Matěj Týč
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 12:44 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: ( if the other distros were 1/2 as smart as Arch, they would all be using a rolling-release model... ) Not true. If you want a distro that just works, you need to really test a lot before you change a version of the package and

Re: [arch-general] nvidia with latest Xorg

2010-04-07 Thread David C. Rankin
(p.s. this is 'in addition to' and not 'in lieu of' the current topic) This is a complete thread hijacking, has nothing to do with the current topic, and adds NOTHING to it. darose updated to the Xserver in EXTRA which is 1.7.5.902-1 nvidia works fine in extra, even in testing ! It

Re: [arch-general] keyboard not working in Xorg after package updates

2010-04-07 Thread David C. Rankin
On 04/07/2010 12:56 PM, Evangelos Foutras wrote: Add a ServerFlags section to your xorg.conf and inside that insert: Option IgnoreABI True When a new driver is released that recognizes the new xorg-server version, you can remove that. Thank you Evangelos. Hopefully DR's issue will be

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux Release Question

2010-04-07 Thread David C. Rankin
On 04/07/2010 12:51 PM, Pierre Schmitz wrote: It's not entirely true. You always should install using the latest iso and it is also important to release new isos regularly. Due to our continuous updates and changes old isos and especially netinstall are broken. For example you cannot run a

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux Release Question

2010-04-07 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:45:41 -0500, David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: I missed that completely in my train of thought. But without the change in package compression it would still hold true. Prior to the xz compression change, I had had no problems using the 2/09

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux Release Question

2010-04-07 Thread fons
On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 07:51:54PM +0200, Pierre Schmitz wrote: On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:44:22 -0500, David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: ... It doesn't matter whether you use the latest install set or the one from 3 'releases' back, after the first update, you will

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux Release Question

2010-04-07 Thread Lukáš Jirkovský
Hi David, It doesn't matter whether you use the latest install set or the one from 3 'releases' back, after the first update, you will have the exact same, current Arch Linux we all have. It is the smartest way to do a Linux distribution -- hands down. I don't agree with you. For 99 % (just