Re: [arch-general] group install

[Tim Ye via arch-general]

On 2017-01-05 17:37+0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

On Thu, 5 Jan 2017 11:28:23 -0500, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote:

You could filter/block them, though.


Ok, "ban" is the wrong term, it should read "block". English isn't my
native language, so this could happen.

However, I helped the OP, I apologized and I can repeat it: My apologies
for the harsh ironical wording.

It's fine.  I didn't take it personally.


Regards,
Ralf


- Tim

Re: [arch-general] group install

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Thu, 5 Jan 2017 11:28:23 -0500, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote:
>You could filter/block them, though.

Ok, "ban" is the wrong term, it should read "block". English isn't my
native language, so this could happen.

However, I helped the OP, I apologized and I can repeat it: My apologies
for the harsh ironical wording.

Regards,
Ralf

Re: [arch-general] group install

[Eli Schwartz via arch-general]

On 01/05/2017 11:07 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> This isn't the point. Subscribers could ban senders by their servers
> or MUAs, without even let the sender know that they did.

No you can't. You could filter/block them, though.
Claiming to "ban" someone is unambiguously false representation as an
actual authority figure.

> We all sometimes ask stupid questions, but this seriously was a
> strange request and apart from this, you could assume "irony", since
> I helped the OP, but I also wanted to add a comment.

Not really a strange request compared to some I have seen...

-- 
Eli Schwartz



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Re: [arch-general] group install

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Thu, 5 Jan 2017 14:29:24 +0100, Florian Pritz via arch-general wrote:
>On 05.01.2017 13:24, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> Actually I shouldn't have replied to your request and instead ban
>> your email address.  
>
>Good thing you can't ban people from this list. I could, but I'll give
>you another chance to not hit reply the next time you'd want to write a
>reply like this.

This isn't the point. Subscribers could ban senders by their servers or
MUAs, without even let the sender know that they did. We all sometimes
ask stupid questions, but this seriously was a strange request and
apart from this, you could assume "irony", since I helped the OP, but I
also wanted to add a comment.

On Thu, 5 Jan 2017 21:54:21 +0800, Tim Ye via arch-general wrote:
>>Actually I shouldn't have replied to your request and instead ban your
>>email address.  
>
>I'm sorry if I violated any rule of the list.

My apologies, if my _ironical_ wording should have been to harsh, but it
was a "let me google that for you" question, especially strange, since
you already were reading the Arch Wiki.

>>https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/pacman#Installing_package_groups  
>
>Thank you for your kindly help, that worked.

You are welcome!

Regards,
Ralf

Re: [arch-general] group install

[Tim Ye via arch-general]

On 2017-01-05 13:31+, Emil Lundberg via arch-general wrote:

That was excessive, Ralf. Arch may be a DIY distro, but that doesn't mean
we should humiliate and belittle people who don't already know everything
about the system.

Tim: I'm sorry you got that response. A "group" in pacman is an alias for a
bunch of packages, you install it just as if the group was an ordinary
package.

Thanks for the help and thank you for saying that. :)

Actually there was typo of the command I issued, then I thought I missed 
something thus started this thread.


/Emil

On Thu, 5 Jan 2017, 13:24 Ralf Mardorf,  wrote:


On Thu, 5 Jan 2017 20:16:32 +0800, Tim Ye via arch-general wrote:
>I read a Arch Linux wiki page says one can "install a group":
>
>"Install the xfce4 group."
>
>how can I do that?

Actually I shouldn't have replied to your request and instead ban your
email address.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/pacman#Installing_package_groups

You already were reading the Wiki and needed to ask this question, while
your chosen distro is Arch Linux, not Ubuntu?

More information about handling groups could be found by

  $ man pacman | grep group

Regards,
Ralf



- Tim

Re: [arch-general] group install

[Tim Ye via arch-general]

On 2017-01-05 13:24+0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

On Thu, 5 Jan 2017 20:16:32 +0800, Tim Ye via arch-general wrote:

I read a Arch Linux wiki page says one can "install a group":

   "Install the xfce4 group."

how can I do that?


Actually I shouldn't have replied to your request and instead ban your
email address.


I'm sorry if I violated any rule of the list.



https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/pacman#Installing_package_groups


Thank you for your kindly help, that worked.



You already were reading the Wiki and needed to ask this question, while
your chosen distro is Arch Linux, not Ubuntu?

More information about handling groups could be found by

 $ man pacman | grep group

Regards,
Ralf


- Tim

Re: [arch-general] group install

[Emil Lundberg via arch-general]

That was excessive, Ralf. Arch may be a DIY distro, but that doesn't mean
we should humiliate and belittle people who don't already know everything
about the system.

Tim: I'm sorry you got that response. A "group" in pacman is an alias for a
bunch of packages, you install it just as if the group was an ordinary
package.

/Emil

On Thu, 5 Jan 2017, 13:24 Ralf Mardorf,  wrote:

> On Thu, 5 Jan 2017 20:16:32 +0800, Tim Ye via arch-general wrote:
> >I read a Arch Linux wiki page says one can "install a group":
> >
> >"Install the xfce4 group."
> >
> >how can I do that?
>
> Actually I shouldn't have replied to your request and instead ban your
> email address.
>
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/pacman#Installing_package_groups
>
> You already were reading the Wiki and needed to ask this question, while
> your chosen distro is Arch Linux, not Ubuntu?
>
> More information about handling groups could be found by
>
>   $ man pacman | grep group
>
> Regards,
> Ralf
>

Re: [arch-general] group install

[Florian Pritz via arch-general]

On 05.01.2017 13:24, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Actually I shouldn't have replied to your request and instead ban your
> email address.

Good thing you can't ban people from this list. I could, but I'll give
you another chance to not hit reply the next time you'd want to write a
reply like this.

Florian



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Re: [arch-general] group install

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Thu, 5 Jan 2017 20:16:32 +0800, Tim Ye via arch-general wrote:
>I read a Arch Linux wiki page says one can "install a group":
>
>"Install the xfce4 group."
>
>how can I do that?

Actually I shouldn't have replied to your request and instead ban your
email address.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/pacman#Installing_package_groups

You already were reading the Wiki and needed to ask this question, while
your chosen distro is Arch Linux, not Ubuntu?

More information about handling groups could be found by

  $ man pacman | grep group

Regards,
Ralf