Re: [Arches] Hiding certain resources

[Mike Arrowsmith]

gt;>> needs for my current project for the Florida Public Archaeology Network, 
>>>> but have been stalled on data migration for a while now too... I will be 
>>>> sure to let you know when I am able to make some progress.
>>>>
>>>> Adam
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 5:58 AM, Darcy Christ  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Phil,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think you are misunderstanding what I am saying. Arches is a 
>>>>> database that allows people to collect heritage information to share with 
>>>>> the public. It is completely reasonable to enter data and not immediately 
>>>>> make it public. Especially while developing, collaborating and validating 
>>>>> the resource. Every CMS I have worked with has this feature. I am happy 
>>>>> to 
>>>>> develop it. All I am looking for is some help understanding Arches. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Darcy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Darcy W. Christ
>>>>> @1000camels
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6 Nov 2017, at 7:16 pm, Carlisle, Philip <
>>>>> philip@historicengland.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for clarifying Darcy.
>>>>>
>>>>> As a publically funded body we cannot hide specific resources but we 
>>>>> can limit access to certain attributes of a resource. 
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> I think a function which allowed you to filter and hide resources 
>>>>> labelled with a specific tag should work.
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> *Phil Carlisle*
>>>>>
>>>>> Knowledge Organization Specialist
>>>>>
>>>>> Listing Group, Historic England
>>>>>
>>>>> Direct Dial: +44 (0)1793 414824
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> http://thesaurus.historicengland.org.uk/ 
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.heritagedata.org/blog/
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> Listing Information Services fosters an environment where colleagues 
>>>>> are valued for their skills and knowledge, and where communication, 
>>>>> customer focus and working in partnership are at the heart of everything 
>>>>> we 
>>>>> do.
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Darcy Christ [mailto...@1000camels.com] 
>>>>> *Sent:* 06 November 2017 10:53
>>>>> *To:* Carlisle, Philip
>>>>> *Cc:* Alexei Peters; Arches Project
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Arches] Hiding certain resources
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to hide specific resources, not all of a given resource model. 
>>>>> These are heritage sites that cannot be made public yet, until there are 
>>>>> more legal protections.
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> Darcy W. Christ
>>>>>
>>>>> @1000camels
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6 Nov 2017, at 6:36 pm, Carlisle, Philip <
>>>>> philip@historicengland.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi both,
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought this was possible using the Permission Manager?
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> If you define a user/group as Public then you can use the permission 
>>>>> manager to define No Access for each node in a resource model. For 
>>>>> example 
>>>>> you could provide rudimentary details of a site and its type but not show 
>>>>> its geometry or location. For internal users these would be available.
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> That’s my understanding but I may be mistaken.
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil
>>>>>
>>>>

Re: [Arches] Hiding certain resources

[Cyrus Hiatt]

n to share with the
>>>> public. It is completely reasonable to enter data and not immediately make
>>>> it public. Especially while developing, collaborating and validating the
>>>> resource. Every CMS I have worked with has this feature. I am happy to
>>>> develop it. All I am looking for is some help understanding Arches.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Darcy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Darcy W. Christ
>>>> @1000camels
>>>>
>>>> On 6 Nov 2017, at 7:16 pm, Carlisle, Philip <
>>>> philip@historicengland.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for clarifying Darcy.
>>>>
>>>> As a publically funded body we cannot hide specific resources but we
>>>> can limit access to certain attributes of a resource.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think a function which allowed you to filter and hide resources
>>>> labelled with a specific tag should work.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Phil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Phil Carlisle*
>>>>
>>>> Knowledge Organization Specialist
>>>>
>>>> Listing Group, Historic England
>>>>
>>>> Direct Dial: +44 (0)1793 414824
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://thesaurus.historicengland.org.uk/
>>>>
>>>> http://www.heritagedata.org/blog/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Listing Information Services fosters an environment where colleagues
>>>> are valued for their skills and knowledge, and where communication,
>>>> customer focus and working in partnership are at the heart of everything we
>>>> do.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Darcy Christ [mailto...@1000camels.com]
>>>> *Sent:* 06 November 2017 10:53
>>>> *To:* Carlisle, Philip
>>>> *Cc:* Alexei Peters; Arches Project
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Arches] Hiding certain resources
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I want to hide specific resources, not all of a given resource model.
>>>> These are heritage sites that cannot be made public yet, until there are
>>>> more legal protections.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Darcy W. Christ
>>>>
>>>> @1000camels
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6 Nov 2017, at 6:36 pm, Carlisle, Philip <
>>>> philip@historicengland.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi both,
>>>>
>>>> I thought this was possible using the Permission Manager?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you define a user/group as Public then you can use the permission
>>>> manager to define No Access for each node in a resource model. For example
>>>> you could provide rudimentary details of a site and its type but not show
>>>> its geometry or location. For internal users these would be available.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That’s my understanding but I may be mistaken.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Phil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Phil Carlisle*
>>>>
>>>> Knowledge Organization Specialist
>>>>
>>>> Listing Group, Historic England
>>>>
>>>> Direct Dial: +44 (0)1793 414824
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://thesaurus.historicengland.org.uk/
>>>>
>>>> http://www.heritagedata.org/blog/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Listing Information Services fosters an environment where colleagues
>>>> are valued for their skills and knowledge, and where communication,
>>>> customer focus and working in partnership are at the heart of everything we
>>>> do.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  <http://www.historicengland.org.uk/>
>>>>
>>>> We help people understand, enjoy and value the historic environment,
>>>> and protect it for the future. Historic England <http://bit.ly/1OuxROd>
>>>> is a publ

Re: [Arches] Hiding certain resources

[Dennis Wuthrich]

project for the Florida Public Archaeology Network, 
>>> but have been stalled on data migration for a while now too... I will be 
>>> sure to let you know when I am able to make some progress.
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 5:58 AM, Darcy Christ  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Phil,
>>>>
>>>> I think you are misunderstanding what I am saying. Arches is a database 
>>>> that allows people to collect heritage information to share with the 
>>>> public. It is completely reasonable to enter data and not immediately make 
>>>> it public. Especially while developing, collaborating and validating the 
>>>> resource. Every CMS I have worked with has this feature. I am happy to 
>>>> develop it. All I am looking for is some help understanding Arches. 
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Darcy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Darcy W. Christ
>>>> @1000camels
>>>>
>>>> On 6 Nov 2017, at 7:16 pm, Carlisle, Philip <
>>>> philip@historicengland.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for clarifying Darcy.
>>>>
>>>> As a publically funded body we cannot hide specific resources but we 
>>>> can limit access to certain attributes of a resource. 
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> I think a function which allowed you to filter and hide resources 
>>>> labelled with a specific tag should work.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Phil
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> *Phil Carlisle*
>>>>
>>>> Knowledge Organization Specialist
>>>>
>>>> Listing Group, Historic England
>>>>
>>>> Direct Dial: +44 (0)1793 414824
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> http://thesaurus.historicengland.org.uk/ 
>>>>
>>>> http://www.heritagedata.org/blog/
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Listing Information Services fosters an environment where colleagues 
>>>> are valued for their skills and knowledge, and where communication, 
>>>> customer focus and working in partnership are at the heart of everything 
>>>> we 
>>>> do.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Darcy Christ [mailto...@1000camels.com] 
>>>> *Sent:* 06 November 2017 10:53
>>>> *To:* Carlisle, Philip
>>>> *Cc:* Alexei Peters; Arches Project
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Arches] Hiding certain resources
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> I want to hide specific resources, not all of a given resource model. 
>>>> These are heritage sites that cannot be made public yet, until there are 
>>>> more legal protections.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Darcy W. Christ
>>>>
>>>> @1000camels
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6 Nov 2017, at 6:36 pm, Carlisle, Philip <
>>>> philip@historicengland.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi both,
>>>>
>>>> I thought this was possible using the Permission Manager?
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> If you define a user/group as Public then you can use the permission 
>>>> manager to define No Access for each node in a resource model. For example 
>>>> you could provide rudimentary details of a site and its type but not show 
>>>> its geometry or location. For internal users these would be available.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> That’s my understanding but I may be mistaken.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Phil
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> *Phil Carlisle*
>>>>
>>>> Knowledge Organization Specialist
>>>>
>>>> Listing Group, Historic England
>>>>
>>>> Direct Dial: +44 (0)1793 414824
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> http://thesaurus.historicengland.org.uk/ 
>>>>
>>>> http://www.heritagedata.org/blog/
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Listing Information Services fosters an environment wher

Re: [Arches] Hiding certain resources

[Mike Arrowsmith]

 2017, at 7:16 pm, Carlisle, Philip <
>>> philip@historicengland.org.uk > wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for clarifying Darcy.
>>>
>>> As a publically funded body we cannot hide specific resources but we can 
>>> limit access to certain attributes of a resource. 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> I think a function which allowed you to filter and hide resources 
>>> labelled with a specific tag should work.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *Phil Carlisle*
>>>
>>> Knowledge Organization Specialist
>>>
>>> Listing Group, Historic England
>>>
>>> Direct Dial: +44 (0)1793 414824
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> http://thesaurus.historicengland.org.uk/ 
>>>
>>> http://www.heritagedata.org/blog/
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Listing Information Services fosters an environment where colleagues are 
>>> valued for their skills and knowledge, and where communication, 
>>> customer focus and working in partnership are at the heart of everything we 
>>> do.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* Darcy Christ [mailto...@1000camels.com ] 
>>> *Sent:* 06 November 2017 10:53
>>> *To:* Carlisle, Philip
>>> *Cc:* Alexei Peters; Arches Project
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Arches] Hiding certain resources
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> I want to hide specific resources, not all of a given resource model. 
>>> These are heritage sites that cannot be made public yet, until there are 
>>> more legal protections.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Darcy W. Christ
>>>
>>> @1000camels
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6 Nov 2017, at 6:36 pm, Carlisle, Philip <
>>> philip@historicengland.org.uk > wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi both,
>>>
>>> I thought this was possible using the Permission Manager?
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> If you define a user/group as Public then you can use the permission 
>>> manager to define No Access for each node in a resource model. For example 
>>> you could provide rudimentary details of a site and its type but not show 
>>> its geometry or location. For internal users these would be available.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> That’s my understanding but I may be mistaken.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *Phil Carlisle*
>>>
>>> Knowledge Organization Specialist
>>>
>>> Listing Group, Historic England
>>>
>>> Direct Dial: +44 (0)1793 414824
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> http://thesaurus.historicengland.org.uk/ 
>>>
>>> http://www.heritagedata.org/blog/
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Listing Information Services fosters an environment where colleagues are 
>>> valued for their skills and knowledge, and where communication, 
>>> customer focus and working in partnership are at the heart of everything we 
>>> do.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  <http://www.historicengland.org.uk/>
>>>
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>>> protect it for the future. Historic England <http://bit.ly/1OuxROd> is 
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Re: [Arches] Hiding certain resources

[Alexei Peters]

Hi Darcy,
If I was to develop this for inclusion in the Arches core, I wouldn't rely
on keywords to filter out resource instances.  Instead, we currently manage
permissions on specific node groups (ie: branches) by using the
Django-Guardian module.  I suspect that you could use that same module for
managing resource instance permissions.
This would allow you to apply fine-grained permissions on resource
instances.  For example, some users could be given read-only permissions,
others full access, and still others no access at all.  This would be a
fair amount of work.  The integration points would be very similar to what
we had to do to accomplish node group level permissions.
If you do a quick search for the term "*has_perm*" within the codebase,
you'll get a general sense of all the areas we had to touch to get node
group permissions to work.

Here's a quick listing of those files:

>
> *arches/app/models/card.py*
> *arches/app/models/tile.py*
> *arches/app/utils/permission_backend.py*
> *arches/app/views/base.py*
> *arches/app/views/resource.py*
> *arches/app/views/search.py**arches/app/views/tileserver.py*


Hopefully that helps.
Cheers,
Alexei


Director of Web Development - Farallon Geographics, Inc. - 971.227.3173

On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 7:48 AM, Adam Cox <mr.adam...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Phil and Darcy,
>
> First, Phil, I had the exact same thought as you regarding the Permissions
> Manager, however, it does not work like that, as I detailed in this github
> issue a little while ago: #2465
> <https://github.com/archesproject/arches/issues/2465>. I later closed
> that ticket in favor of two more specific ones #2491
> <https://github.com/archesproject/arches/issues/2491> and #2492
> <https://github.com/archesproject/arches/issues/2492>, but all of the
> content of my original issue and ensuing discussion still describe the
> state of the software, as far as I am aware.
>
> Darcy, in short, v4 allows you to restrict access to certain nodes for
> certain user groups (please see the caveat I recorded in #2492
> <https://github.com/archesproject/arches/issues/2492> though), but not
> entire resource models to certain user groups (e.g. hide all Archaeological
> Sites from the public), nor specific resource instances. So there is no way
> to do exactly what you are looking for at this time, and you would need
> more than a new function to allow for it. My first thought would be to look
> at the Search view, https://github.com/archesproject/arches/blob/
> master/arches/app/views/search.py, and see if I could add some custom
> filters... That's just a start though, you should note that there are more
> than one way that the data is pulled from the db to the interface, and you
> will have to filter each one.
>
> I personally am stuck with a need to fix some very similar permissions
> needs for my current project for the Florida Public Archaeology Network,
> but have been stalled on data migration for a while now too... I will be
> sure to let you know when I am able to make some progress.
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 5:58 AM, Darcy Christ <da...@1000camels.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Phil,
>>
>> I think you are misunderstanding what I am saying. Arches is a database
>> that allows people to collect heritage information to share with the
>> public. It is completely reasonable to enter data and not immediately make
>> it public. Especially while developing, collaborating and validating the
>> resource. Every CMS I have worked with has this feature. I am happy to
>> develop it. All I am looking for is some help understanding Arches.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Darcy
>>
>>
>> Darcy W. Christ
>> @1000camels
>>
>> On 6 Nov 2017, at 7:16 pm, Carlisle, Philip <
>> philip.carli...@historicengland.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for clarifying Darcy.
>>
>> As a publically funded body we cannot hide specific resources but we can
>> limit access to certain attributes of a resource.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think a function which allowed you to filter and hide resources
>> labelled with a specific tag should work.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Phil Carlisle*
>>
>> Knowledge Organization Specialist
>>
>> Listing Group, Historic England
>>
>> Direct Dial: +44 (0)1793 414824 <+44%201793%20414824>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://thesaurus.historicengland.org.uk/
>>
>> http://www.heritagedata.org/blog/
>>
>>
>>
>> Listing Information Services fosters an environment where colleagues 

Re: [Arches] Hiding certain resources

[Adam Cox]

Hi Phil and Darcy,

First, Phil, I had the exact same thought as you regarding the Permissions
Manager, however, it does not work like that, as I detailed in this github
issue a little while ago: #2465
<https://github.com/archesproject/arches/issues/2465>. I later closed that
ticket in favor of two more specific ones #2491
<https://github.com/archesproject/arches/issues/2491> and #2492
<https://github.com/archesproject/arches/issues/2492>, but all of the
content of my original issue and ensuing discussion still describe the
state of the software, as far as I am aware.

Darcy, in short, v4 allows you to restrict access to certain nodes for
certain user groups (please see the caveat I recorded in #2492
<https://github.com/archesproject/arches/issues/2492> though), but not
entire resource models to certain user groups (e.g. hide all Archaeological
Sites from the public), nor specific resource instances. So there is no way
to do exactly what you are looking for at this time, and you would need
more than a new function to allow for it. My first thought would be to look
at the Search view,
https://github.com/archesproject/arches/blob/master/arches/app/views/search.py,
and see if I could add some custom filters... That's just a start though,
you should note that there are more than one way that the data is pulled
from the db to the interface, and you will have to filter each one.

I personally am stuck with a need to fix some very similar permissions
needs for my current project for the Florida Public Archaeology Network,
but have been stalled on data migration for a while now too... I will be
sure to let you know when I am able to make some progress.

Adam



On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 5:58 AM, Darcy Christ <da...@1000camels.com> wrote:

> Hi Phil,
>
> I think you are misunderstanding what I am saying. Arches is a database
> that allows people to collect heritage information to share with the
> public. It is completely reasonable to enter data and not immediately make
> it public. Especially while developing, collaborating and validating the
> resource. Every CMS I have worked with has this feature. I am happy to
> develop it. All I am looking for is some help understanding Arches.
>
> Regards,
> Darcy
>
>
> Darcy W. Christ
> @1000camels
>
> On 6 Nov 2017, at 7:16 pm, Carlisle, Philip <Philip.Carlisle@
> HistoricEngland.org.uk> wrote:
>
> Thanks for clarifying Darcy.
>
> As a publically funded body we cannot hide specific resources but we can
> limit access to certain attributes of a resource.
>
>
>
> I think a function which allowed you to filter and hide resources labelled
> with a specific tag should work.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Phil
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Phil Carlisle*
>
> Knowledge Organization Specialist
>
> Listing Group, Historic England
>
> Direct Dial: +44 (0)1793 414824 <+44%201793%20414824>
>
>
>
> http://thesaurus.historicengland.org.uk/
>
> http://www.heritagedata.org/blog/
>
>
>
> Listing Information Services fosters an environment where colleagues are
> valued for their skills and knowledge, and where communication, customer
> focus and working in partnership are at the heart of everything we do.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Darcy Christ [mailto:da...@1000camels.com <da...@1000camels.com>]
> *Sent:* 06 November 2017 10:53
> *To:* Carlisle, Philip
> *Cc:* Alexei Peters; Arches Project
> *Subject:* Re: [Arches] Hiding certain resources
>
>
>
> I want to hide specific resources, not all of a given resource model.
> These are heritage sites that cannot be made public yet, until there are
> more legal protections.
>
>
>
> Darcy W. Christ
>
> @1000camels
>
>
> On 6 Nov 2017, at 6:36 pm, Carlisle, Philip <Philip.Carlisle@
> HistoricEngland.org.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi both,
>
> I thought this was possible using the Permission Manager?
>
>
>
> If you define a user/group as Public then you can use the permission
> manager to define No Access for each node in a resource model. For example
> you could provide rudimentary details of a site and its type but not show
> its geometry or location. For internal users these would be available.
>
>
>
> That’s my understanding but I may be mistaken.
>
>
>
> Phil
>
>
>
> *Phil Carlisle*
>
> Knowledge Organization Specialist
>
> Listing Group, Historic England
>
> Direct Dial: +44 (0)1793 414824 <+44%201793%20414824>
>
>
>
> http://thesaurus.historicengland.org.uk/
>
> http://www.heritagedata.org/blog/
>
>
>
> Listing Information Services fosters an environment where colleagues are
> valued for their skills and knowledge, and where communicatio

Re: [Arches] Hiding certain resources

[Darcy Christ]

Hi Phil,

I think you are misunderstanding what I am saying. Arches is a database that 
allows people to collect heritage information to share with the public. It is 
completely reasonable to enter data and not immediately make it public. 
Especially while developing, collaborating and validating the resource. Every 
CMS I have worked with has this feature. I am happy to develop it. All I am 
looking for is some help understanding Arches. 

Regards,
Darcy


Darcy W. Christ
@1000camels

> On 6 Nov 2017, at 7:16 pm, Carlisle, Philip 
> <philip.carli...@historicengland.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for clarifying Darcy.
> As a publically funded body we cannot hide specific resources but we can 
> limit access to certain attributes of a resource.
>  
> I think a function which allowed you to filter and hide resources labelled 
> with a specific tag should work.
>  
> Regards
>  
> Phil
>  
>  
>  
> Phil Carlisle
> Knowledge Organization Specialist
> Listing Group, Historic England
> Direct Dial: +44 (0)1793 414824
>  
> http://thesaurus.historicengland.org.uk/ 
> http://www.heritagedata.org/blog/
>  
> Listing Information Services fosters an environment where colleagues are 
> valued for their skills and knowledge, and where communication, customer 
> focus and working in partnership are at the heart of everything we do.
>  
>  
> From: Darcy Christ [mailto:da...@1000camels.com] 
> Sent: 06 November 2017 10:53
> To: Carlisle, Philip
> Cc: Alexei Peters; Arches Project
> Subject: Re: [Arches] Hiding certain resources
>  
> I want to hide specific resources, not all of a given resource model. These 
> are heritage sites that cannot be made public yet, until there are more legal 
> protections.
>  
> 
> Darcy W. Christ
> @1000camels
> 
> On 6 Nov 2017, at 6:36 pm, Carlisle, Philip 
> <philip.carli...@historicengland.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hi both,
> I thought this was possible using the Permission Manager?
>  
> If you define a user/group as Public then you can use the permission manager 
> to define No Access for each node in a resource model. For example you could 
> provide rudimentary details of a site and its type but not show its geometry 
> or location. For internal users these would be available.
>  
> That’s my understanding but I may be mistaken.
>  
> Phil
>  
> Phil Carlisle
> Knowledge Organization Specialist
> Listing Group, Historic England
> Direct Dial: +44 (0)1793 414824
>  
> http://thesaurus.historicengland.org.uk/ 
> http://www.heritagedata.org/blog/
>  
> Listing Information Services fosters an environment where colleagues are 
> valued for their skills and knowledge, and where communication, customer 
> focus and working in partnership are at the heart of everything we do.
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
> We help people understand, enjoy and value the historic environment, and 
> protect it for the future. Historic England is a public body, and we champion 
> everyone’s heritage, across England.
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> From: archesproject@googlegroups.com [mailto:archesproject@googlegroups.com] 
> On Behalf Of Darcy Christ
> Sent: 06 November 2017 05:49
> To: Alexei Peters
> Cc: Arches Project
> Subject: Re: [Arches] Hiding certain resources
>  
> This would be for v4.
>  
> 
> Darcy W. Christ
> @1000camels
> 
> On 6 Nov 2017, at 1:46 pm, Alexei Peters <apet...@fargeo.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Darcy,
> First off, are you using Arches v3 or v4?
> -Alexei
>  
> On Nov 4, 2017 11:01 PM, "Darcy Christ" <da...@1000camels.com> wrote:
> Hi Alexei,
>  
> It’s a very important feature we need to implement. What do you think about 
> using a keyword to filter specific resources? Would you be able to some 
> guidance on where you think this filter would need to be applied? We would 
> need to make sure that not only the reports themselves would not be visible, 
> but also that it wouldn’t appear in searches or on the map. I am not familiar 
> with the code enough

RE: [Arches] Hiding certain resources

[Carlisle, Philip]

Thanks for clarifying Darcy.
As a publically funded body we cannot hide specific resources but we can limit 
access to certain attributes of a resource.

I think a function which allowed you to filter and hide resources labelled with 
a specific tag should work.

Regards

Phil



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Listing Group, Historic England
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From: Darcy Christ [mailto:da...@1000camels.com]
Sent: 06 November 2017 10:53
To: Carlisle, Philip
Cc: Alexei Peters; Arches Project
Subject: Re: [Arches] Hiding certain resources

I want to hide specific resources, not all of a given resource model. These are 
heritage sites that cannot be made public yet, until there are more legal 
protections.

Darcy W. Christ
@1000camels

On 6 Nov 2017, at 6:36 pm, Carlisle, Philip 
<philip.carli...@historicengland.org.uk<mailto:philip.carli...@historicengland.org.uk>>
 wrote:
Hi both,
I thought this was possible using the Permission Manager?

If you define a user/group as Public then you can use the permission manager to 
define No Access for each node in a resource model. For example you could 
provide rudimentary details of a site and its type but not show its geometry or 
location. For internal users these would be available.

That’s my understanding but I may be mistaken.

Phil

Phil Carlisle
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Direct Dial: +44 (0)1793 414824

http://thesaurus.historicengland.org.uk/
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[mailto:archesproject@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Darcy Christ
Sent: 06 November 2017 05:49
To: Alexei Peters
Cc: Arches Project
Subject: Re: [Arches] Hiding certain resources

This would be for v4.

Darcy W. Christ
@1000camels

On 6 Nov 2017, at 1:46 pm, Alexei Peters 
<apet...@fargeo.com<mailto:apet...@fargeo.com>> wrote:
Hi Darcy,
First off, are you using Arches v3 or v4?
-Alexei

On Nov 4, 2017 11:01 PM, "Darcy Christ" 
<da...@1000camels.com<mailto:da...@1000camels.com>> wrote:
Hi Alexei,

It’s a very important feature we need to implement. What do you think about 
using a keyword to filter specific resources? Would you be able to some 
guidance on where you think this filter would need to be applied? We would need 
to make sure that not only the reports themselves would not be visible, but 
also that it wouldn’t appear in searches or on the map. I am not familiar with 
the code enough to know whether there is somewhere in the methods that load the 
resources that I could apply. Filter.

Darcy W. Christ
@1000camels

On 5 Nov 2017, at 5:26 am, Alexei Peters 
<apet...@fargeo.com<mailto:apet...@fargeo.com>> wrote:
Hi Darcy,
There currently isn't a way to do this, but it's a use-case that we're aware of.
-Alexei


Director of Web Development - Farallon Geographics, Inc. - 
971.227.3173<tel:(971)%20227-3173>

On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 12:44 AM, Darcy Christ 
<da...@1000camels.com<mailto:da...@1000camels.com>> wrote:
Is there a way to hide specific resources from anonymous users?

We are working on a project whe

Re: [Arches] Hiding certain resources

[Darcy Christ]

I want to hide specific resources, not all of a given resource model. These are 
heritage sites that cannot be made public yet, until there are more legal 
protections.


Darcy W. Christ
@1000camels

> On 6 Nov 2017, at 6:36 pm, Carlisle, Philip 
> <philip.carli...@historicengland.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hi both,
> I thought this was possible using the Permission Manager?
>  
> If you define a user/group as Public then you can use the permission manager 
> to define No Access for each node in a resource model. For example you could 
> provide rudimentary details of a site and its type but not show its geometry 
> or location. For internal users these would be available.
>  
> That’s my understanding but I may be mistaken.
>  
> Phil
>  
> Phil Carlisle
> Knowledge Organization Specialist
> Listing Group, Historic England
> Direct Dial: +44 (0)1793 414824
>  
> http://thesaurus.historicengland.org.uk/ 
> http://www.heritagedata.org/blog/
>  
> Listing Information Services fosters an environment where colleagues are 
> valued for their skills and knowledge, and where communication, customer 
> focus and working in partnership are at the heart of everything we do.
>  
>  
> 
> 
> 
> We help people understand, enjoy and value the historic environment, and 
> protect it for the future. Historic England is a public body, and we champion 
> everyone’s heritage, across England.
> Follow us:  Facebook  |  Twitter  |  Instagram Sign up to our newsletter  
>
> 
> Help us create a list of the 100 places which tell England's remarkable story 
> and its impact on the world. A History of England in 100 Places sponsored by 
> Ecclesiastical. 
> 
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> From: archesproject@googlegroups.com [mailto:archesproject@googlegroups.com] 
> On Behalf Of Darcy Christ
> Sent: 06 November 2017 05:49
> To: Alexei Peters
> Cc: Arches Project
> Subject: Re: [Arches] Hiding certain resources
>  
> This would be for v4.
>  
> 
> Darcy W. Christ
> @1000camels
> 
> On 6 Nov 2017, at 1:46 pm, Alexei Peters <apet...@fargeo.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Darcy,
> First off, are you using Arches v3 or v4?
> -Alexei
>  
> On Nov 4, 2017 11:01 PM, "Darcy Christ" <da...@1000camels.com> wrote:
> Hi Alexei,
>  
> It’s a very important feature we need to implement. What do you think about 
> using a keyword to filter specific resources? Would you be able to some 
> guidance on where you think this filter would need to be applied? We would 
> need to make sure that not only the reports themselves would not be visible, 
> but also that it wouldn’t appear in searches or on the map. I am not familiar 
> with the code enough to know whether there is somewhere in the methods that 
> load the resources that I could apply. Filter.
>  
> 
> Darcy W. Christ
> @1000camels
> 
> On 5 Nov 2017, at 5:26 am, Alexei Peters <apet...@fargeo.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Darcy,
> There currently isn't a way to do this, but it's a use-case that we're aware 
> of.
> -Alexei
> 
>  
> Director of Web Development - Farallon Geographics, Inc. - 971.227.3173
>  
> On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 12:44 AM, Darcy Christ <da...@1000camels.com> wrote:
> Is there a way to hide specific resources from anonymous users?
> 
> We are working on a project where there is a need to have some heritage sites 
> in the system not be publicly available. I can imagine some way to hide 
> resources with a given keyword. Does this makes sense? Has anyone done this?
>  
> Regards,
> Darcy
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RE: [Arches] Hiding certain resources

[Carlisle, Philip]

Hi both,
I thought this was possible using the Permission Manager?

If you define a user/group as Public then you can use the permission manager to 
define No Access for each node in a resource model. For example you could 
provide rudimentary details of a site and its type but not show its geometry or 
location. For internal users these would be available.

That’s my understanding but I may be mistaken.

Phil

Phil Carlisle
Knowledge Organization Specialist
Listing Group, Historic England
Direct Dial: +44 (0)1793 414824

http://thesaurus.historicengland.org.uk/
http://www.heritagedata.org/blog/

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From: archesproject@googlegroups.com [mailto:archesproject@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Darcy Christ
Sent: 06 November 2017 05:49
To: Alexei Peters
Cc: Arches Project
Subject: Re: [Arches] Hiding certain resources

This would be for v4.

Darcy W. Christ
@1000camels

On 6 Nov 2017, at 1:46 pm, Alexei Peters 
<apet...@fargeo.com<mailto:apet...@fargeo.com>> wrote:
Hi Darcy,
First off, are you using Arches v3 or v4?
-Alexei

On Nov 4, 2017 11:01 PM, "Darcy Christ" 
<da...@1000camels.com<mailto:da...@1000camels.com>> wrote:
Hi Alexei,

It’s a very important feature we need to implement. What do you think about 
using a keyword to filter specific resources? Would you be able to some 
guidance on where you think this filter would need to be applied? We would need 
to make sure that not only the reports themselves would not be visible, but 
also that it wouldn’t appear in searches or on the map. I am not familiar with 
the code enough to know whether there is somewhere in the methods that load the 
resources that I could apply. Filter.

Darcy W. Christ
@1000camels

On 5 Nov 2017, at 5:26 am, Alexei Peters 
<apet...@fargeo.com<mailto:apet...@fargeo.com>> wrote:
Hi Darcy,
There currently isn't a way to do this, but it's a use-case that we're aware of.
-Alexei


Director of Web Development - Farallon Geographics, Inc. - 
971.227.3173<tel:(971)%20227-3173>

On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 12:44 AM, Darcy Christ 
<da...@1000camels.com<mailto:da...@1000camels.com>> wrote:
Is there a way to hide specific resources from anonymous users?

We are working on a project where there is a need to have some heritage sites 
in the system not be publicly available. I can imagine some way to hide 
resources with a given keyword. Does this makes sense? Has anyone done this?

Regards,
Darcy
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Re: [Arches] Hiding certain resources

[Darcy Christ]

This would be for v4.


Darcy W. Christ
@1000camels

> On 6 Nov 2017, at 1:46 pm, Alexei Peters  wrote:
> 
> Hi Darcy,
> First off, are you using Arches v3 or v4?
> -Alexei
> 
>> On Nov 4, 2017 11:01 PM, "Darcy Christ"  wrote:
>> Hi Alexei,
>> 
>> It’s a very important feature we need to implement. What do you think about 
>> using a keyword to filter specific resources? Would you be able to some 
>> guidance on where you think this filter would need to be applied? We would 
>> need to make sure that not only the reports themselves would not be visible, 
>> but also that it wouldn’t appear in searches or on the map. I am not 
>> familiar with the code enough to know whether there is somewhere in the 
>> methods that load the resources that I could apply. Filter.
>> 
>> 
>> Darcy W. Christ
>> @1000camels
>> 
>>> On 5 Nov 2017, at 5:26 am, Alexei Peters  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Darcy,
>>> There currently isn't a way to do this, but it's a use-case that we're 
>>> aware of.
>>> -Alexei
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Director of Web Development - Farallon Geographics, Inc. - 971.227.3173
>>> 
 On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 12:44 AM, Darcy Christ  wrote:
 Is there a way to hide specific resources from anonymous users?
 
 We are working on a project where there is a need to have some heritage 
 sites in the system not be publicly available. I can imagine some way to 
 hide resources with a given keyword. Does this makes sense? Has anyone 
 done this?
 
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Re: [Arches] Hiding certain resources

[Alexei Peters]

Hi Darcy,
First off, are you using Arches v3 or v4?
-Alexei

On Nov 4, 2017 11:01 PM, "Darcy Christ"  wrote:

> Hi Alexei,
>
> It’s a very important feature we need to implement. What do you think
> about using a keyword to filter specific resources? Would you be able to
> some guidance on where you think this filter would need to be applied? We
> would need to make sure that not only the reports themselves would not be
> visible, but also that it wouldn’t appear in searches or on the map. I am
> not familiar with the code enough to know whether there is somewhere in the
> methods that load the resources that I could apply. Filter.
>
>
> Darcy W. Christ
> @1000camels
>
> On 5 Nov 2017, at 5:26 am, Alexei Peters  wrote:
>
> Hi Darcy,
> There currently isn't a way to do this, but it's a use-case that we're
> aware of.
> -Alexei
>
>
> Director of Web Development - Farallon Geographics, Inc. - 971.227.3173
> <(971)%20227-3173>
>
> On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 12:44 AM, Darcy Christ 
> wrote:
>
>> Is there a way to hide specific resources from anonymous users?
>>
>> We are working on a project where there is a need to have some heritage
>> sites in the system not be publicly available. I can imagine some way to
>> hide resources with a given keyword. Does this makes sense? Has anyone done
>> this?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Darcy
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Re: [Arches] Hiding certain resources

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Hi Darcy,
There currently isn't a way to do this, but it's a use-case that we're
aware of.
-Alexei


Director of Web Development - Farallon Geographics, Inc. - 971.227.3173

On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 12:44 AM, Darcy Christ  wrote:

> Is there a way to hide specific resources from anonymous users?
>
> We are working on a project where there is a need to have some heritage
> sites in the system not be publicly available. I can imagine some way to
> hide resources with a given keyword. Does this makes sense? Has anyone done
> this?
>
> Regards,
> Darcy
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Is there a way to hide specific resources from anonymous users?

We are working on a project where there is a need to have some heritage 
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