Re: [arin-ppml] Policy Proposal: Reduce all Minimum Allocation/Assignment units to /24

2014-05-02 Thread David Huberman
I support this proposal David R Huberman Microsoft Corporation Senior IT/OPS Program Manager (GFS) From: arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net on behalf of Owen DeLong o...@delong.com Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 10:58:58 AM To: pol...@arin.net;

Re: [arin-ppml] Adding Enforcement mandate language

2014-05-02 Thread Michael Peddemors
For the thread (subject changed) here is what you mean? From the Afrinic.net website.. 9.5 Validity of an assignment Assignments remain valid as long as the original criteria on which the assignment was based are still in place and the assignment is registered in the AfriNIC whois database.

Re: [arin-ppml] Adding Enforcement mandate language

2014-05-02 Thread McTim
Hi, On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Michael Peddemors mich...@linuxmagic.com wrote: For the thread (subject changed) here is what you mean? no, that's just preamble. From the Afrinic.net website.. 9.5 Validity of an assignment Assignments remain valid as long as the original criteria

Re: [arin-ppml] Adding Enforcement mandate language

2014-05-02 Thread David Huberman
Unfortunately, Mr McTim, this won't work here :( We have tremendously large service providers who don't have up-to-date SWIP records as a function of changes ARIN has made to software. The providers are experiencing an inability to get changes made internally to adjust to ARIN's changes. This

[arin-ppml] Policy Proposal: Change Utilization Requirements from last-allocation to total-aggregate

2014-05-02 Thread Leif Sawyer
Based on Jeffrey Lyon's jeffrey.l...@blacklotus.net email regarding utilization requirements, I've put together a draft proposal: --- Template: ARIN-POLICY-PROPOSAL-TEMPLATE-3.0 1. Policy Proposal Name: Change Utilization Requirements from last-allocation to total-aggregate

Re: [arin-ppml] Policy Proposal: Change Utilization Requirements from last-allocation to total-aggregate

2014-05-02 Thread Michael Peddemors
On 14-05-02 11:22 AM, Leif Sawyer wrote: 5. Policy statement: Section 4.2.4.1- Change text to read: ISPs must have efficiently utilized all previous allocations, in aggregate, to at least 80% in order to receive additional space. This

Re: [arin-ppml] Policy Proposal: Change Utilization Requirements from last-allocation to total-aggregate

2014-05-02 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
To clarify my concern about 4.5 requests, my intent is that each discrete network be evaluated independently, but in aggregate, when requesting space. For instance, Company A has Network X and Network Y. The aggregate utilization of Network X is 80% and the aggregate utilization of Network Y is

Re: [arin-ppml] Policy discussion - Method of calculating utilization

2014-05-02 Thread Richard J. Letts
-Original Message- From: arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Lyon Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 7:49 AM Friends, Colleagues, A couple of years ago I brought up an issue I had run into where the utilization requirement for new

Re: [arin-ppml] Ability to post to PPML list

2014-05-02 Thread Martin Hannigan
Robert, Looks like you have it. Best, Martin On Friday, May 2, 2014, Cleary, Robert K robert.cle...@bankofamerica.com wrote: Hi, I would like the ability to post to the list. My email address is

Re: [arin-ppml] Policy discussion - Method of calculating utilization

2014-05-02 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Leif Sawyer lsaw...@gci.com wrote: On behalf of myself, I support this proposal. On behalf of my company, which finds itself in the position of 8 large allocations above 93% and 1 small allocation below the 80% mark, I support this proposal. I believe there

Re: [arin-ppml] Policy discussion - Method of calculating utilization

2014-05-02 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 7:33 PM, John Santos j...@egh.com wrote: On Fri, 2 May 2014, Jimmy Hess wrote: I think 95% is too high, if the previous example of 3 /24's at 100% and 1 /24 at 75% is realistic. That works out to

Re: [arin-ppml] Policy discussion - Method of calculating utilization

2014-05-02 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Martin Hannigan hanni...@gmail.com wrote: All, Why should entities get a break on a standard in existence and applied to all for years? And why is tbe aggregate, in examples given, broken? ARIN already applies that to some applicants. No support.

Re: [arin-ppml] Policy discussion - Method of calculating utilization

2014-05-02 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Martin Hannigan hanni...@gmail.com wrote: Yes it is. Are you expecting such a change to happen before or after? The recent fury of v4 policy seems geared towards sooner. I think a moratorium is in order except for transfer related policy at this juncture.

Re: [arin-ppml] Policy discussion - Method of calculating utilization

2014-05-02 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Jeffrey Lyon jeffrey.l...@blacklotus.net wrote: Jimmy, I would not support scaling this beyond 80% except at the larger allocation levels (eg. perhaps /17 and shorter, aggregate). The essence of it is, that the 80% utilization criterion is ancient, and before

Re: [arin-ppml] Policy discussion - Method of calculating utilization

2014-05-02 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
It would seem so. Jeff On May 3, 2014 10:38 AM, Martin Hannigan hanni...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, May 2, 2014, Jeffrey Lyon jeffrey.l...@blacklotus.net wrote: On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Martin Hannigan hanni...@gmail.com wrote: Jeffrey, Let's be clear without political

Re: [arin-ppml] Policy discussion - Method of calculating utilization

2014-05-02 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Brett Frankenberger rbf+arin-p...@panix.com wrote: Why is it not OK to get more space when you have an unused /21 that is not adjacent to your other space, but it's OK to get more space if you have an unused /21 hidden inside a /16? I support the proposal. You