Re: [arin-ppml] [EXT] Re: Open Petition for ARIN-prop-266: BGP Hijacking is an ARIN Policy Violation

2019-05-01 Thread Marilson Mapa
BoT will decide WRT this being "out of scope" for the PDP, IMHO. OTOH, do you BET? Marilson Em qua, 1 de mai de 2019 às 17:18, Joe Provo escreveu: > > He Carlos, > > On Wed, May 01, 2019 at 08:52:58PM +0100, Carlos Fria?as wrote: > > > > On Wed, 1 May 2019, Joe Provo wrote: > > > > (...) > >

Re: [arin-ppml] [EXT] Re: Open Petition for ARIN-prop-266: BGP Hijacking is an ARIN Policy Violation

2019-05-01 Thread Marilson Mapa
Carlos Friacas asked to Joe Probo: Can we perhaps agree that a "rogue RIR member" could be more harmful to the RIR system than a "rogue non-RIR member"...? Carlos, your question is out of context because a "rogue RIR member" is outside the scope of the ARIN PDP. Did you understand? Marilson Em

Re: [arin-ppml] [EXT] Re: Open Petition for ARIN-prop-266: BGP Hijacking is an ARIN Policy Violation

2019-05-01 Thread Fernando Frediani
On 01/05/2019 17:17, Joe Provo wrote: "Distribution function" is indeed merely agreeing that the data recorded in the registry is accurate. There's no dibursement of anything. When we bought our house and land, the registry of deeds was similar only involved in verifying that the transfer from

Re: [arin-ppml] Petition Successful for ARIN-prop-266: BGP Hijacking is an ARIN Policy Violation

2019-05-01 Thread Andrew Bagrin
I support it, not sure if I was clear that I do before. thanks, Andrew On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 3:24 PM ARIN wrote: > The petition against the rejection of "ARIN-prop-266: BGP Hijacking is > an ARIN Policy Violation" received the support of at least ten people > from ten organizations within the

Re: [arin-ppml] [EXT] Re: Open Petition for ARIN-prop-266: BGP Hijacking is an ARIN Policy Violation

2019-05-01 Thread Joe Provo
He Carlos, On Wed, May 01, 2019 at 08:52:58PM +0100, Carlos Fria?as wrote: > > On Wed, 1 May 2019, Joe Provo wrote: > > (...) > >> By way of analogy, ARIN paints the lines on the roads and strongly > >> encourages > >> everyone to stay in their own lane and to try to drive at all times on

Re: [arin-ppml] [EXT] Re: Open Petition for ARIN-prop-266: BGP Hijacking is an ARIN Policy Violation

2019-05-01 Thread Carlos Friaças via ARIN-PPML
On Wed, 1 May 2019, Joe Provo wrote: (...) By way of analogy, ARIN paints the lines on the roads and strongly encourages everyone to stay in their own lane and to try to drive at all times on the [snip] Nope; ARIN is a registry. More appropriate analogies would be a registry of deed or

Re: [arin-ppml] [EXT] Re: Open Petition for ARIN-prop-266: BGP Hijacking is an ARIN Policy Violation

2019-05-01 Thread Joe Provo
[as always, speaking for myself though due to my AC hat I've waited until after the petition was decided] On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 09:26:42PM -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: [snip] > Here in our area, we have an entity that builds and maintains most of > the roads. It's called CalTrans and it

[arin-ppml] Petition Successful for ARIN-prop-266: BGP Hijacking is an ARIN Policy Violation

2019-05-01 Thread ARIN
The petition against the rejection of "ARIN-prop-266: BGP Hijacking is an ARIN Policy Violation" received the support of at least ten people from ten organizations within the allotted timeframe of five days. Per the Policy Development Process (PDP), Part Three, Section 2.1., the question of

[arin-ppml] in Conjunction with the abuse validation / legacy

2019-05-01 Thread Zingee Ngan
Hi, I'm not sure if this is the right place to send this, but I would like to suggest that if validation of abuse contacts is necessary, that we piggy back another change in there? For users/owners of legacy resources, for some previous owners of /24, there are some who didn't validate or

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-266 Open Petition

2019-05-01 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ARIN-PPML
Hi Owen, I think my original message (https://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/2019-April/032896.html) clearly stated it, and despite the different wording used by different folks, everybody is supporting the same petition, as there is only one right now in the list. There is a further