Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2019-7: Elimination of the Waiting List (was:Re: Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

2019-06-23 Thread Owen DeLong
+1 Owen > On Jun 23, 2019, at 04:35 , Joe Provo wrote: > > > > Strongly oppose. > > We all see things through our own lenses, so I'm not > suprised by the position of economists. I am troubled > by some folks using the phrase "distort the market" > to describe tge normal functioning of the

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2019-7: Elimination of the Waiting List (was:Re: Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

2019-06-23 Thread Mike Burns
Hi Milton, I answered your question by submitting a proposal to place returned addresses in 4.10 to starve the waiting list to death. That should be ready for debate next week, but we can begin. Why is that silly? It's likely to be an extremely marginal addition to the 4.10 /10 block.  Do

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2019-7: Elimination of the Waiting List (was:Re: Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

2019-06-23 Thread Joe Provo
Strongly oppose. We all see things through our own lenses, so I'm not suprised by the position of economists. I am troubled by some folks using the phrase "distort the market" to describe tge normal functioning of the RIR, as if there is some form of *primacy* to be placed on the transfer

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2019-7: Elimination of the Waiting List (was:Re: Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

2019-06-23 Thread hostmaster
I do not see "dumping" them into 4.10 as wasting the addresses. If the wait list was not around, I strongly suspect that 4.10 will become more popular, as the only other "Free" option for most. I see 4.10 as a mini version of the wait list, that has MORE limits on it than the current wait

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2019-7: Elimination of the Waiting List (was:Re: Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

2019-06-23 Thread Mueller, Milton L
I see that no one has answered the question I posed - if v4 resources are reclaimed by ARIN how does it dispose of them efficiently if it does not auction them off? Marty is correct that ARIN could refuse to accept returns. That that would require the would-be returning party to auction them

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2019-7: Elimination of the Waiting List (was:Re: Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

2019-06-23 Thread Mueller, Milton L
John, this is a pretty lame response, I think you have substituted length for accuracy here in order to make it appear as if you have more of an argument than you do. But in reality you are just repeating, over and over again, the speculation that monetary gain would become a decisive factor

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2019-7: Elimination of the Waiting List (was:Re: Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

2019-06-23 Thread Mueller, Milton L
Support From: Alyssa Moore Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 12:27 PM To: David Farmer Cc: Mueller, Milton L ; ARIN-PPML List Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2019-7: Elimination of the Waiting List (was:Re: Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM