[arin-ppml] Stratus astroturfing

2020-10-30 Thread Seth Mattinen
Who are all these people that "support the Stratus stance" out of nowhere and do they have any opinion on why they support it or know what they're supporting? ___ ARIN-PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public

Re: [arin-ppml] Last Call - Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2020-2: Reinstatement of Organizations Removed from Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16

2020-10-30 Thread Fernando Frediani
Unfortunately there is way too much political correctness in the sense of 'leaving people free to choose to do it whenever they feel like without any penalties', but at the same time is forgotten that nobody exists alone in the Internet ecosystem and that certain decisions worse the problem to

Re: [arin-ppml] Last Call - Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2020-2: Reinstatement of Organizations Removed from Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16

2020-10-30 Thread Mueller, Milton L
-Original Message- > This protocol is NOT an end to end protocol, and therefore divides addresses > into 2 groups: "This protocol" is NOT a protocol. As a new report from ICANN OCTO points out, so-called New IP is better described as " a list of perceived issues about the current

Re: [arin-ppml] Last Call - Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2020-2: Reinstatement of Organizations Removed from Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16

2020-10-30 Thread hostmaster
The most extreme example is if that person was the very last IPv4 ONLY network operator. They then complain that their network has been made useless because everyone else decided to finally turn off IPv4 for lack of use by everyone except that operator. At that point the remaining operators

Re: [arin-ppml] Last Call - Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2020-2: Reinstatement of Organizations Removed from Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16

2020-10-30 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 10/22/20 9:21 PM, Michael Peddemors wrote: But seriously? First of all there are those who have no business need to move to IPv6, where IPv4 is all they ever will need, so you can understand that it will be low on their priority list I do not buy any "business case" arguments. If an

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