Re: [arin-ppml] Change of Use and ARIN (was: Re: AFRINIC And The Stability Of The Internet Number Registry System)

2021-09-03 Thread Michel Py via ARIN-PPML
John - > John Curran wrote : > 3.  Courts (probate, bankruptcy, civil,...) may order disposition of such > assets – ARIN > routinely gets involved in such matters, and explains to the parties & courts > the various > requirements necessary for transfer in compliance with our policies.  Indeed.

Re: [arin-ppml] Change of Use and ARIN (was: Re: AFRINIC And The Stability Of The Internet Number Registry System)

2021-09-03 Thread scott
Hi John, Thank you for these clarifications. I appreciate your detailed responses for the edification of myself and other participants. I am curious... would resources allocated under 4.10 be considered differently, or not as an asset, due to the relevant and proper restrictions against

Re: [arin-ppml] Change of Use and ARIN (was: Re: AFRINIC And The Stability Of The Internet Number Registry System)

2021-09-03 Thread John Curran
On 3 Sep 2021, at 1:12 AM, sc...@solarnetone.org wrote: ... No one is claiming anything here, everyone is paying a fair market price for what they are using in a scare market. Owning an asset does not constitute a crime. Being allocated IP addresses from a RIR does

Re: [arin-ppml] Change of Use and ARIN (was: Re: AFRINIC And The Stability Of The Internet Number Registry System)

2021-09-03 Thread Fernando Frediani
That's more an opinion than a fact. I understand that despite what it really it you are wishing for some court decision from some misguided judge to force something that is not like that just because that benefits a small set of actors. The good side of it is that even if that happens that

Re: [arin-ppml] Change of Use and ARIN (was: Re: AFRINIC And The Stability Of The Internet Number Registry System)

2021-09-03 Thread Lu Heng
Hi Scott: “In some places, perhaps. The difference here is the global nature of the resources under discussion means that a ruling in one jurisdiction may have little to no effect on others. Rest assured that any such court case would attract amicus briefs, among other mechanisms, from other

[arin-ppml] Big news for St. Helena

2021-09-03 Thread David Farmer via ARIN-PPML
There is big news for St. Helena, in the ARIN Region, Outlying Areas Sector, the Google Equiano Cable has landed on St Helena. https://www.saint.fm/googles-equiano-fibre-optic-cable-lands-on-st-helena/

Re: [arin-ppml] Change of Use and ARIN (was: Re: AFRINIC And The Stability Of The Internet Number Registry System)

2021-09-03 Thread hostmaster
It is my hope that eventually the cost of IPv4 will eventually get so high that it will finally tip a majority of the world's networks over to the world of IPv6. Most access providers have it. Most equipment vendors have it, as well as nearly every operating system on the planet. My guess

Re: [arin-ppml] Change of Use and ARIN (was: Re: AFRINIC And The Stability Of The Internet Number Registry System)

2021-09-03 Thread scott
> Who decides this? All those asset purchase agreement wasn’t signed out of > blue. Agreements made among men and women based on erroneous premises are no more relevant that two people agreeing that the sky contains no stars; either they are

Re: [arin-ppml] Change of Use and ARIN (was: Re: AFRINIC And The Stability Of The Internet Number Registry System)

2021-09-03 Thread Lu Heng
Hi 于2021年9月3日 周五下午2:49写道: > > > On Fri, 3 Sep 2021, Lu Heng wrote: > > > > > > > 于2021年9月3日 周五下午1:12写道: > > > > > > > No one is claiming anything here, everyone is paying a fair > > market price for > > > what they are using in a scare market. Owning an asset does > > not

Re: [arin-ppml] Change of Use and ARIN (was: Re: AFRINIC And The Stability Of The Internet Number Registry System)

2021-09-03 Thread scott
You believe that augmenting a natural scarcity with a artificial one born of resource hoarding will lower consumer prices and improve quality? If so, I have some bridges for sale that you may be interested in. On Fri, 3 Sep 2021, Cheken Chetty wrote: I agree with Lu, while some of the

Re: [arin-ppml] Change of Use and ARIN (was: Re: AFRINIC And The Stability Of The Internet Number Registry System)

2021-09-03 Thread scott
On Fri, 3 Sep 2021, Lu Heng wrote: 于2021年9月3日 周五下午1:12写道: > No one is claiming anything here, everyone is paying a fair market price for > what they are using in a scare market. Owning an asset does not constitute a > crime. Being allocated IP

Re: [arin-ppml] Change of Use and ARIN (was: Re: AFRINIC And The Stability Of The Internet Number Registry System)

2021-09-03 Thread Cheken Chetty
I agree with Lu, while some of the statements about the cons against capitalism is true, there are various pros for it as well such as the encouragement of competition, lower consumer prices and better product quality and they do in some cases outweigh the bad in my opinion. Regards On Fri, 3

Re: [arin-ppml] Change of Use and ARIN (was: Re: AFRINIC And The Stability Of The Internet Number Registry System)

2021-09-03 Thread Lu Heng
于2021年9月3日 周五下午1:12写道: > > > > No one is claiming anything here, everyone is paying a fair market price > for > > what they are using in a scare market. Owning an asset does not > constitute a > > crime. > > Being allocated IP addresses from a RIR does not constitute ownership of > an asset,