Re: [arin-ppml] Legacy number resources in the ARIN region (was: Re: Draft Policy ARIN-2021-8: Deprecation of the 'Autonomous System Originations' Field)

2022-04-27 Thread Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML
> On Apr 27, 2022, at 11:23, John Curran wrote: > > Owen - > > Yes, apparently RIPE makes the address blocks themselves somehow “magical” in > nature for perpetuity regardless of who is the address holder - certainly an > interesting approach when one considers the implications. > >

Re: [arin-ppml] Legacy number resources in the ARIN region (was: Re: Draft Policy ARIN-2021-8: Deprecation of the 'Autonomous System Originations' Field)

2022-04-27 Thread John Curran
Owen - Yes, apparently RIPE makes the address blocks themselves somehow “magical” in nature for perpetuity regardless of who is the address holder - certainly an interesting approach when one considers the implications. However, ARIN is the formal successor administrator of its registry with

Re: [arin-ppml] Legacy number resources in the ARIN region (was: Re: Draft Policy ARIN-2021-8: Deprecation of the 'Autonomous System Originations' Field)

2022-04-27 Thread Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML
Interestingly, if your resources were issued by an organization that was not one of the current 5 RIRs at the time of issuance, RIPE will consider your resources eligible to be treated as “legacy without contract” when you transfer to RIPE. This is, by far, the most liberal and most respectful

Re: [arin-ppml] IPv6 Allocations

2022-04-27 Thread David Farmer via ARIN-PPML
Thank you for the clarification. And I eagerly await the policy proposal changing that language. I meant to ask this at the Open Mic session this morning, but I had someone at my door and by the time I got back, the meeting was all over. WOW, that was quick! I hope everyone has a safe trip

Re: [arin-ppml] IPv6 Allocations

2022-04-27 Thread John Sweeting
David, While every issued resource is allocated the size of IPv6 is determined by the policy they are requested under as either end user or ISP. So an ISP requesting IPv6 is still evaluated under NRPM 6.5.2 and an end user is evaluated under NRPM 6.5.8. It is my understanding that the ARIN AC

[arin-ppml] IPv6 Allocations

2022-04-27 Thread David Farmer via ARIN-PPML
In I believe the IANA resource report at ARIN 49, John Sweeting mentioned that ARIN is now only making allocations. Since the smallest IPv6 allocation in policy is a /40, does that mean that ARIN is no longer handing out /48s or /44s to organizations that formerly would have received end-users

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2021-8: Deprecation of the 'Autonomous System Originations' Field

2022-04-27 Thread John Curran
On 26 Apr 2022, at 7:45 PM, Martin Hannigan mailto:hanni...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 6:20 PM Andrew Dul mailto:andrew@quark.net>> wrote: Legacy holders have the option to add records to ARIN’s authenticated irr. It only requires them to sign an lrsa or rsa. In my

[arin-ppml] Legacy number resources in the ARIN region (was: Re: Draft Policy ARIN-2021-8: Deprecation of the 'Autonomous System Originations' Field)

2022-04-27 Thread John Curran
Folks - It’s important to note that these references shared below are _not_ based on a common definition of “legacy number resource" – ARIN considers a legacy number resource to be one that’s held by the original registrant (or their legal successor, e.g. due to merger) and that was issued