Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language

2022-07-26 Thread Scott Leibrand
Why are we switching from “number resources” to “numbering resources”? Numbering isn’t an adjective AFAIK. ScottOn Jul 26, 2022, at 5:18 PM, Andrew Dul wrote: Attached is a redline pdf and resultant text after update which helps show the changes which have been

Re: [arin-ppml] Deceased Companies?

2022-07-26 Thread Matthew Petach
On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 5:28 PM Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > And as I have said, corporate > entities of this type, together with natural persons, represent the > overwhelming > bulk of all ARIN memberships. > Fair enough; we'll limit the discussion to private corporations and natural persons

Re: [arin-ppml] Deceased Companies?

2022-07-26 Thread John Curran
On 26 Jul 2022, at 8:27 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette mailto:r...@tristatelogic.com>> wrote: ... And in general, I believe ARIN _does_ know all of that, except when it comes to deceased entities, where it appear to be blind as a bat. Ronald - Deceased entities generally don’t pay their renewal

Re: [arin-ppml] Deceased Companies?

2022-07-26 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message , Matthew Petach wrote: >Why would ARIN be the place to track changes of ownership of corporate >entities? > >If Elon Musk, for example, were to buy Twitter... Now you are taking about (a) publicly traded companies and also about (b) companies whose names are unlikely to change

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language

2022-07-26 Thread Andrew Dul
Attached is a redline pdf and resultant text after update which helps show the changes which have been suggested to update section11. Thanks in advance for your feedback on this draft. Andrew On 7/26/2022 2:37 PM, ARIN wrote: On 21 July 2022, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2022-4: Clean-up of NRPM Sections 2.1 and 2.2

2022-07-26 Thread Leif Sawyer via ARIN-PPML
Owen, for clarity: [the] Advisory Council (AC) accepted "ARIN-prop-310: Clean-up of NRPM Sections 2.1 and 2.2" as a Draft Policy. This was not accepted as an Editorial policy, and will therefore undergo all the normal community review and steps toward recommended draft, etc. The policy name

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2022-5: Clean-up of NRPM Section 2.11

2022-07-26 Thread Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML
I believe these changes do not materially affect the meaning of the passage and therefore do support treatment of this as an editorial change. Owen > On Jul 26, 2022, at 14:35, ARIN wrote: > > On 21 July 2022, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted "ARIN-prop-312: > Clean-up of NRPM

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2022-4: Clean-up of NRPM Sections 2.1 and 2.2

2022-07-26 Thread Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML
Since this expands the actual scope of 2.1 and 2.2, it is not editorial IMHO. It likely applies the intended scope and may even be the currently practiced scope, but does not reflect the previously documented scope. Owen > On Jul 26, 2022, at 14:34, ARIN wrote: > > On 21 July 2022, the ARIN

[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language

2022-07-26 Thread ARIN
On 21 July 2022, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted "ARIN-prop-316: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language" as a Draft Policy. Draft Policy ARIN-2022-8 is below and can be found at: https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2022_8/ You are encouraged to discuss all Draft

[arin-ppml] Editorial Change ARIN-edit-2022-7: Editorial Clean-up of NRPM Section 2.16

2022-07-26 Thread ARIN
On 21 July 2022, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) classified "ARIN-prop-315: Editorial Clean-up of NRPM Section 2.16" as an Editorial Change to the Number Resource Policy Manual (NRPM). The text is below and can be found at: https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/ARIN_edit_2022_7/

[arin-ppml] Editorial Change ARIN-edit-2022-6: Editorial Clean-up of NRPM Sections 2.12 and 2.14

2022-07-26 Thread ARIN
On 21 July 2022, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) classified "ARIN-prop-313: Editorial Clean-up of NRPM Sections 2.12 and 2.14" as an Editorial Change to the Number Resource Policy Manual (NRPM). The text is below and can be found at:

[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2022-5: Clean-up of NRPM Section 2.11

2022-07-26 Thread ARIN
On 21 July 2022, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted "ARIN-prop-312: Clean-up of NRPM Section 2.11" as a Draft Policy. Draft Policy ARIN-2022-5 is below and can be found at: https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2022_5/ You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on

[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2022-4: Clean-up of NRPM Sections 2.1 and 2.2

2022-07-26 Thread ARIN
On 21 July 2022, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted "ARIN-prop-310: Clean-up of NRPM Sections 2.1 and 2.2" as a Draft Policy. Draft Policy ARIN-2022-4 is below and can be found at: https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2022_4/ You are encouraged to discuss all Draft

Re: [arin-ppml] Deceased Companies?

2022-07-26 Thread Matthew Petach
On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 2:23 PM Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > To put it another way, if a former and now-defunct ARIN member falls in > the forrest, > and if there is no requirement to make any changes in the associated > public-facing > WHOIS record(s) after the dead company's membership and

[arin-ppml] Advisory Council Meeting Results - July 2022

2022-07-26 Thread ARIN
In accordance with the Policy Development Process (PDP), the Advisory Council met on 21 July 2022. The AC has advanced the following to Draft Policy status (will be posted separately for discussion): * ARIN-prop-310: Clean-up of NRPM Sections 2.1 and 2.2 * ARIN-prop-312: Clean-up of

Re: [arin-ppml] Deceased Companies?

2022-07-26 Thread John Curran
> On 26 Jul 2022, at 4:32 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette > wrote: > … And indeed, if my > browser's search function is working properly then it would appear that > neither the > word "death" nor the word "dissolution" appears anywhere in the entire NRPM. > Would > you agree that these terms and/or

Re: [arin-ppml] Deceased Companies?

2022-07-26 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message <55579a4c-f9e7-4dea-9948-f4f34b2d1...@arin.net>, John Curran wrote: >> I provided a straightforward hypothetical of a small business that was >> validly operating >> within the state of California, which was formerly (a) registered as an ARIN >> member, and >> which (b) was the

Re: [arin-ppml] Deceased Companies?

2022-07-26 Thread John Curran
> On 26 Jul 2022, at 3:05 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette > wrote: > > In message <050367fd-7090-4f98-9c34-2904f1129...@arin.net>, > John Curran wrote: > >>> Section 8.2. of the NRPM covers "Mergers, Acquisitions, and >>> Reorganizations". The policies >>> and procedures that are to be applied in

Re: [arin-ppml] Deceased Companies?

2022-07-26 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message <050367fd-7090-4f98-9c34-2904f1129...@arin.net>, John Curran wrote: >> Section 8.2. of the NRPM covers "Mergers, Acquisitions, and >> Reorganizations". The policies >> and procedures that are to be applied in all of those situations are quite >> clearly set >> forth there.

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN Guidelines, regarding use in ARIN region, curious question

2022-07-26 Thread Matthew Petach
On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 9:46 AM Michael Peddemors wrote: > Noticing more cases of IP Assignments for a 'company' with a North > American presence, that simply reassigns/reallocates portions of their > IP assignments to offshore and foreign companies with no North American > presence at all.. > >

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN Guidelines, regarding use in ARIN region, curious question

2022-07-26 Thread John Curran
On 26 Jul 2022, at 12:45 PM, Michael Peddemors mailto:mich...@linuxmagic.com>> wrote: Noticing more cases of IP Assignments for a 'company' with a North American presence, that simply reassigns/reallocates portions of their IP assignments to offshore and foreign companies with no North

[arin-ppml] ARIN Guidelines, regarding use in ARIN region, curious question

2022-07-26 Thread Michael Peddemors
Noticing more cases of IP Assignments for a 'company' with a North American presence, that simply reassigns/reallocates portions of their IP assignments to offshore and foreign companies with no North American presence at all.. How does the intent of ARIN guidelines apply, when a 'shell'

Re: [arin-ppml] Deceased Companies?

2022-07-26 Thread John Curran
> On 26 Jul 2022, at 12:42 AM, William Herrin wrote: > ... > We've gotten way into the weeds here so I'll bring it back to this: > it's dubious whether or not ARIN has the authority to make and enforce > a change to the policies that would have a materially adverse impact > on the legacy