Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2022-9: Leasing Not Intended

2022-09-10 Thread Bruce Cornett via ARIN-PPML
I still see a significant issue. Consider the transfer of network infrastructure to a subsidiary or possibly a startup. And for the moment the parent corporation is not providing connectivity. If the blocks are transferred to the subsidiary and something goes awry with that business segment,

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2022-9: Leasing Not Intended

2022-09-10 Thread Jon Lewis
On Sat, 10 Sep 2022, Mike Burns wrote: Fernando, Your proposal says leasing is banned at other RIRs. I am telling you once again that leasing is NOT banned at RIPE and leased addresses CAN be used as justification at RIPE.  I speak from direct experience. And once again there is no policy

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2022-9: Leasing Not Intended

2022-09-10 Thread Fernando Frediani
I don't understand your way to oppose this proposal. You want to oppose it based a small subset of 'situation in other regions' text ? That your only point to oppose this proposal ? The text clearly says the leasing of addresses is not authorized explicitly in the policy manuals and in most

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2022-9: Leasing Not Intended

2022-09-10 Thread Fernando Frediani
Hello Bruce There is not problem at all in these scenarios as resources can be easily transferred and there are policies for that already, therefore the mechanism already exist. Fernando On 10/09/2022 13:31, Bruce Cornett via ARIN-PPML wrote: Hello I see a potential problem where changes

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2022-9: Leasing Not Intended

2022-09-10 Thread Mike Burns
Fernando, Your proposal says leasing is banned at other RIRs. I am telling you once again that leasing is NOT banned at RIPE and leased addresses CAN be used as justification at RIPE.  I speak from direct experience. And once again there is no policy nor contract requirement to utilize

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2022-9: Leasing Not Intended

2022-09-10 Thread Bruce Cornett via ARIN-PPML
Hello I see a potential problem where changes in corporate structure occur when shifting day to day operations to subsidiaries or sister corporations, leaving the block assignment with the original holder. Bruce C > On Sep 9, 2022, at 9:44 AM, Fernando Frediani wrote: > >  > Hello > >