Re: [arin-ppml] Reclamation of Number Resources

2023-06-07 Thread Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML
I doubt this will really set any precedent. In general, the case is a fairly run of the mill fraud case. IANAL, but I don’t see much about the case that would be novel or precedent setting. Owen > On Jun 7, 2023, at 06:04, Douglas Haber via ARIN-PPML > wrote: > > As a follow up to some of

Re: [arin-ppml] implementing RPKI prefix validation actually increases risk

2023-06-07 Thread Martin Hannigan
Don't usually feel the need to +1, but I doubt anyone can add much more to this than "well said". Warm regards, -M< On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 11:09 AM Heather Schiller wrote: > ARIN is relatively neutral on such things. They take their mandate from > the community. The *community* wants RPKI

Re: [arin-ppml] implementing RPKI prefix validation actually increases risk

2023-06-07 Thread John W. O'Brien
Very well said. Seconded on all points. On 6/7/23 11:09, Heather Schiller wrote: ARIN is relatively neutral on such things.  They take their mandate from the community.  The /community/ wants RPKI deployed.  The /community/ pushed and begged for ARIN to participate.  ARIN held several

Re: [arin-ppml] implementing RPKI prefix validation actually increases risk

2023-06-07 Thread Heather Schiller
ARIN is relatively neutral on such things. They take their mandate from the community. The *community* wants RPKI deployed. The *community* pushed and begged for ARIN to participate. ARIN held several consultations and public discussions on whether or not they should participate and then what

Re: [arin-ppml] Reclamation of Number Resources

2023-06-07 Thread Douglas Haber via ARIN-PPML
Hi Mike I haven’t even pondered the implications of this case yet. Maybe I should have. I figured I would just wait and see the outcome here and then run through the different lasting effects that come of it. Strictly from a mile high perspective, I hope this case leads to a notable outcome

Re: [arin-ppml] Reclamation of Number Resources

2023-06-07 Thread Mike Burns
Hi Douglas  Interesting post, thanks. I am curious as to what precedent will be set. What do you think, and how could this community be affected? Regards, Mike On Wed, 07 Jun 2023 09:04:43 -0400 arin-ppml@arin.net wrote div.zm_-2118264287618186377_parse_-3210343989793755353

Re: [arin-ppml] Reclamation of Number Resources

2023-06-07 Thread Douglas Haber via ARIN-PPML
As a follow up to some of the discussion from July 2022, it appears to me that sentencing may be imminent for Mr. Golestan and Micfo. He filed a motion to withdraw his guilty claims on 26 April of this year [1]. Honorable Richard M. Gergel, US District Judge, issued a ruling [2] on that motion

Re: [arin-ppml] implementing RPKI prefix validation actually increases risk

2023-06-07 Thread Alejandro Acosta
Hello, On 6/6/23 10:23 AM, Job Snijders via ARIN-PPML wrote: Hi Michel, On Tue, Jun 06, 2023 at 02:29:35AM +, Michel Py via ARIN-PPML wrote: The problem here is that RPKI validation is at the very top of the BGP bestpath decision process, before weight and local-preference, without any