Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2015-3: Remove 30-Day Utilization Requirement in End-User IPv4 Policy

2016-02-17 Thread Jason Schiller
>> > > ​+1​ > -- > Brian > > >> >> Thank you >> Richard Letts >> >> > -Original Message- >> > From: arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net] On >> > Behalf Of David Farmer >> > Se

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2015-3: Remove 30-Day Utilization Requirement in End-User IPv4 Policy

2016-02-16 Thread Brian Jones
t; Richard Letts > > > -Original Message- > > From: arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net] On > > Behalf Of David Farmer > > Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 9:23 PM > > To: ARIN PPML <arin-ppml@arin.net> > > Subject: Re: [

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2015-3: Remove 30-Day Utilization Requirement in End-User IPv4 Policy

2016-02-16 Thread james machado
I support this as written with our without the the "criterion" for "criteria". James Machado ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2015-3: Remove 30-Day Utilization Requirement in End-User IPv4 Policy

2016-02-16 Thread Richard J. Letts
Behalf Of David Farmer > Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 9:23 PM > To: ARIN PPML <arin-ppml@arin.net> > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2015-3: Remove 30-Day Utilization > Requirement in End-User IPv4 Policy > > As shepherd, I need additional feedback on this, I need a better sen

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2015-3: Remove 30-Day Utilization Requirement in End-User IPv4 Policy

2016-02-16 Thread Robert Jacobs
, 2016 11:23 PM To: ARIN PPML <arin-ppml@arin.net> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2015-3: Remove 30-Day Utilization Requirement in End-User IPv4 Policy As shepherd, I need additional feedback on this, I need a better sense of what the community wants here. Should we move forward more o

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2015-3: Remove 30-Day Utilization Requirement in End-User IPv4 Policy

2016-02-15 Thread David Farmer
As shepherd, I need additional feedback on this, I need a better sense of what the community wants here. Should we move forward more or less as-is, with a minor editorial change, substituting "criterion" for "criteria"? Or, does the community want to work on a way to address the concerns

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2015-3: Remove 30-Day Utilization Requirement in End-User IPv4 Policy

2016-01-29 Thread Jason Schiller
McTim, WRT some other tangible and verifiable claim to show there was a real commitment to use half the address space within one year... I think there are 3 choices: 1. Very vague Something like "there must be some tangible and verifiable claim to show there was a real commitment to use half

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2015-3: Remove 30-Day Utilization Requirement in End-User IPv4 Policy

2016-01-29 Thread Andrew Dul
I would think that ARIN staff would already apply a "show me tangible evidence requirement" to a 50% within a year requirement. My understanding is that that is current ARIN staff practice for new organizations requires them to show evidence they will actually use the IPv4 addresses on an

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2015-3: Remove 30-Day Utilization Requirement in End-User IPv4 Policy

2016-01-29 Thread Richard J. Letts
Why are we adding more rules for IPv4 space? a) It is almost impossible to get space in a reasonable timescale without paying (more than just the ARIN fees) for it b) If you have to pay for the space anyway you are not going to buy something that you can't use (unless you are

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2015-3: Remove 30-Day Utilization Requirement in End-User IPv4 Policy

2016-01-28 Thread Jason Schiller
I support the removal of the 30 day utilization as it is unreasonable for any larger end-site, who may have a real need for say a /16, with 65,000 desktops arriving on a loading doc next week, but an inability to unbox, configure and deploy 16,384 to the various office locations in 30 days.

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2015-3: Remove 30-Day Utilization Requirement in End-User IPv4 Policy

2016-01-28 Thread Steven Ryerse
] On Behalf Of Mike Burns Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 3:56 PM To: 'Owen DeLong' <o...@delong.com>; 'David Farmer' <far...@umn.edu> Cc: 'ARIN PPML' <arin-ppml@arin.net> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2015-3: Remove 30-Day Utilization Requirement in End-User IPv4 Policy I

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2015-3: Remove 30-Day Utilization Requirement in End-User IPv4 Policy

2016-01-28 Thread Mike Burns
arin-ppml@arin.net> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2015-3: Remove 30-Day Utilization Requirement in End-User IPv4 Policy While criteria as singular may not be an uncommon error, I see no reason to avoid the proper use of the word criterion. I propose changing to the following: … The basic criteri

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2015-3: Remove 30-Day Utilization Requirement in End-User IPv4 Policy

2016-01-28 Thread Brian Jones
Looks good to me Dave. I am okay with using criteria or criterion, however using the strict definition it looks as though criterion is the proper singular form. -- Brian On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 5:54 PM, David Farmer wrote: > The following is the proposed update for ARIN-2015-3:

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2015-3: Remove 30-Day Utilization Requirement in End-User IPv4 Policy

2016-01-27 Thread Owen DeLong
While criteria as singular may not be an uncommon error, I see no reason to avoid the proper use of the word criterion. I propose changing to the following: … The basic criterion that must be met is a 50% utilization rate within one year. … Is there some perceived benefit to sticking with a

[arin-ppml] ARIN-2015-3: Remove 30-Day Utilization Requirement in End-User IPv4 Policy

2016-01-27 Thread David Farmer
The following is the proposed update for ARIN-2015-3: Remove 30-Day Utilization Requirement in End-User IPv4 Policy based on strong support in Montreal. Beyond deleting the 25% bullet as the policy says, their are editorial changes as follows to the remaining text; - It looks weird to have