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From: arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net] On
Behalf Of Michael Peddemors
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 9:56 AM
To: arin-ppml@arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN IPs and Spammers? = Need for Governance
On 14-11-10 07:34 AM, Kevin Kargel wrote:
I have
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Michael Peddemors mich...@linuxmagic.com
wrote:
However, ARIN does have the mandate regarding proper SWIP for
delegated IP Addresses, and enforcement in that area might be the first
step.
Suggest a useful penalty (within ARIN's organizational scope) for the
On 11/10/2014 7:56 AM, Michael Peddemors wrote:
On 14-11-10 07:34 AM, Kevin Kargel wrote:
I have to agree with Ted. ARIN is not in the 'acceptable use
enforcement' business and that is a line that should not be crossed.
There are many other agencies and venues more appropriate for the task
of
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 9:23 AM, John Von Stein j...@qxccommunications.com
wrote:
This does not need to be “eye for an eye” enforcement.
Just like a speeding, beyond the safety issues involved the deterrent
against doing it partially the cost of the fine and the increased insurance
premium
Kaufman; arin-ppml@arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN IPs and Spammers? = Need for Governance
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 9:23 AM, John Von Stein
j...@qxccommunications.commailto:j...@qxccommunications.com wrote:
This does not need to be “eye for an eye” enforcement.
Just like a speeding, beyond
I for one would never support such a proposal.
I will point out the United States invented the Internet. This is
something that EVERY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD has to accept. They
may not like to admit it even to themselves but they know it's true.
The United States modeled the Internet
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 6:19 AM, John Von Stein j...@qxccommunications.com
wrote:
Agreed, and as mentioned below, there is no rule-of-law without
enforcement.
So the question is who or what should be the enforcement (police, judge)
of proper IP usage? I don’t think that’s ARIN’s role.
they are addressed.
From: arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net] On
Behalf Of Bob Atkins
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 7:34 PM
To: arin-ppml@arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN IPs and Spammers?
Trying to regulate IPv4 address space based on who and how it is used
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 10:44 PM, Matthew Kaufman matt...@matthew.at wrote:
If I send a bunch of junk mail from my house, or play music really
loud late at night, does the city come and take my street address away?
The city arrives in the form of police who politely ask if you'd like to
spend
Hey all,
What do you think about the number of ARIN ips belongs to spammers
nowadays? I have done a researched recently and found alot companies
how have assigned more than thousands of IPs to some spammers around
the world.
Do you think such assignments are fair? Shouldn't arin take some steps
On 14-11-06 01:24 PM, Bon Onlines wrote:
Hey all,
What do you think about the number of ARIN ips belongs to spammers
nowadays? I have done a researched recently and found alot companies
how have assigned more than thousands of IPs to some spammers around
the world.
Do you think such
Michael,
I recently got some spams from some IPs within an ISP( datacenter )
and contacted them regarding that, however their respond to me was
something like :
--
We are unable to find DNSBL listings supporting that this client is a
spammer. In determining
In a word, no.
ARIN should not be the application police and should not be making value
judgments about what addresses are used for.
While I support industry efforts to eliminate SPAM and support ARIN taking
action against inefficient utilization of address space (such as snowshoe
spamming),
First they came for the spammers, and I said nothing, because I sent no
spam
On 2014-11-06 3:59 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
In a word, no.
ARIN should not be the application police and should not be making value
judgments about what addresses are used for.
While I support industry efforts to
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