Re: [arin-ppml] Community Networks (Was Draft Policy ARIN-2016-6: Eliminate HD-Ratio from NRPM)

Owen, I think you intended this to be in response to a different email in the thread, the one related to the Caribbean and rural text in the current Community Networks policy, and not anything to do with 2009-7: Open Access To IPv6. Thanks On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 1:43 PM, Owen DeLong

Re: [arin-ppml] Community Networks (Was Draft Policy ARIN-2016-6: Eliminate HD-Ratio from NRPM)

> On Aug 16, 2016, at 18:49 , David R Huberman wrote: > > > I wrote: > >>> 2) In the first Public Policy Meeting this was presented, the topic of >>> "cannot meet existing policy" was mostly centered around the criterion that >>> existed of "must announce a single aggregte"

Re: [arin-ppml] Community Networks (Was Draft Policy ARIN-2016-6: Eliminate HD-Ratio from NRPM)

I wrote: 2) In the first Public Policy Meeting this was presented, the topic of "cannot meet existing policy" was mostly centered around the criterion that existed of "must announce a single aggregte" into the DFZ. The presenter (Joshua King) indicated this was not possible for all community

Re: [arin-ppml] Community Networks (Was Draft Policy ARIN-2016-6: Eliminate HD-Ratio from NRPM)

On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 9:17 PM, David R Huberman wrote: > .. > > 2) In the first Public Policy Meeting this was presented, the topic of > "cannot meet existing policy" was mostly centered around the criterion that > existed of "must announce a single aggregte" into the DFZ.

Re: [arin-ppml] Community Networks (Was Draft Policy ARIN-2016-6: Eliminate HD-Ratio from NRPM)

Yes, this removes the Caribbean and rural text that is in the current Community Networks policy. I believe that was intentional, maybe it should be noted in the comments to make that clear. Or, do you believe we should keep that or similar text? Additional comments on this policy would be

Re: [arin-ppml] Community Networks (Was Draft Policy ARIN-2016-6: Eliminate HD-Ratio from NRPM)

6.5.9.1 says more than was quoted. The bit that was missing is "For community networks located in rural regions (population less than 2,500) or in the Caribbean and North Atlantic Islands Sector, the numbers in these qualification criteria may be relaxed at ARIN's discretion." More than half

Re: [arin-ppml] Community Networks (Was Draft Policy ARIN-2016-6: Eliminate HD-Ratio from NRPM)

-- Brian On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 9:34 PM, Keith W. Hare wrote: > David, > > > > 6.5.2.2 item C requests a plan “with a minimum of 50 assignments within 5 > years” > > > > 6.5.9.1 says “a community network must demonstrate it will immediately > provide sustained service to at least

Re: [arin-ppml] Community Networks (Was Draft Policy ARIN-2016-6: Eliminate HD-Ratio from NRPM)

I dug through the archives and wow, this policy (2008-3) had a long history. It took 21 months from start to finish, was revised 4 times, and was discussed in 23 separate ARIN AC meetings. tldr: existing v6 policy in 2008-2009 could not be met by operators of community networks, due to both

Re: [arin-ppml] Community Networks (Was Draft Policy ARIN-2016-6: Eliminate HD-Ratio from NRPM)

> On Aug 9, 2016, at 18:34 , Keith W. Hare wrote: > > David, > > 6.5.2.2 item C requests a plan “with a minimum of 50 assignments within 5 > years” >   <> > 6.5.9.1 says “a community network must demonstrate it will immediately > provide sustained service to at least 100

Re: [arin-ppml] Community Networks (Was Draft Policy ARIN-2016-6: Eliminate HD-Ratio from NRPM)

Hi Keith, Thanks for the reply. My understanding from the community network presentations given to the ARIN community was that the 50 assignments / 100 assignments thresholds were too high a bar to clear. I believe they said that commonly, community networks are often considerably smaller,

Re: [arin-ppml] Community Networks (Was Draft Policy ARIN-2016-6: Eliminate HD-Ratio from NRPM)

David, 6.5.2.2 item C requests a plan “with a minimum of 50 assignments within 5 years” 6.5.9.1 says “a community network must demonstrate it will immediately provide sustained service to at least 100 simultaneous users and must demonstrate a plan to provide sustained service to at least 200