Re: [Arm-netbook] about Risc-V and Power,

2020-01-03 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On 1/4/20, zap wrote: > Hmm, okay sounds good, thanks for clearing up that mystery. Still I do > love that risc-v is supposedly ultra lightweight. Too bad about their > dracoian methods... ;/ not draconian: just blatantly arrogant. > They really are like the mozilla of processors. indeed. >>

Re: [Arm-netbook] about Risc-V and Power,

2020-01-03 Thread zap
>> I will wait to see your >> plans and whether you plan to make your own risc-v or openpower >> processor then. > both. > > absolute to-the-letter RV64GC compliance in *userspace*... *ONLY*. > with full POWER compliance in ***BOTH*** userspace AND kernelspace. Hmm, okay sounds good,

Re: [Arm-netbook] about Risc-V and Power,

2020-01-03 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On 1/4/20, zap wrote: > hmm... okay. I must've gotten confused then. yes :) it's what's *not* done that matters, not what *is* done. > I will wait to see your > plans and whether you plan to make your own risc-v or openpower > processor then. both. absolute to-the-letter RV64GC compliance

Re: [Arm-netbook] about Risc-V and Power,

2020-01-03 Thread zap
>>> like any trademark, if you make no mention of the trademark, or any >>> claims of "compliance", you're probably ok. >>> >>> from the time i worked on samba-tng, you can claim *compatibility* >>> with something that is a pun or the *inversion* of a trademark. >>> "arcfour-compatible" rather

Re: [Arm-netbook] about Risc-V and Power,

2020-01-03 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On 1/4/20, zap wrote: > > > On 01/03/2020 07:25 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >> On 1/3/20, zap wrote: >>> Just to be clear, you cannot legally sell risc-v processors even if you >>> remove the trademarks. >> like any trademark, if you make no mention of the trademark, or any >> claims

Re: [Arm-netbook] about Risc-V and Power,

2020-01-03 Thread zap
On 01/03/2020 07:25 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On 1/3/20, zap wrote: >> Just to be clear, you cannot legally sell risc-v processors even if you >> remove the trademarks. > like any trademark, if you make no mention of the trademark, or any > claims of "compliance", you're

Re: [Arm-netbook] about Risc-V and Power,

2020-01-03 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On 1/3/20, zap wrote: > Just to be clear, you cannot legally sell risc-v processors even if you > remove the trademarks. like any trademark, if you make no mention of the trademark, or any claims of "compliance", you're probably ok. from the time i worked on samba-tng, you can claim

Re: [Arm-netbook] about Risc-V and Power,

2020-01-03 Thread zap
Just to be clear, you cannot legally sell risc-v processors even if you remove the trademarks.  And, OpenPower can be made more secure and lightweight then Risc-V. Do I have that right? If so, then I will recommend the Hyperbola devs work within the OpenPower thought process for making libre,

Re: [Arm-netbook] Libre RISC-V -- I mean OpenPower M-Class GPU update

2020-01-03 Thread Paul Boddie
On 2020-01-02 00:28, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: after they got the ARM7 functional, barry managed to get ARM their very first license, ever: with Plessey. they were so happy, they offered him a job. barry turned it down: he would have been employee number 12, and a very rich man, now

Re: [Arm-netbook] Libre RISC-V -- I mean OpenPower M-Class GPU update

2020-01-03 Thread David Niklas
On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 00:13:16 +0800 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Thursday, January 2, 2020, Hendrik Boom > wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 02, 2020 at 12:28:03AM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton > > wrote: > > > > > > IBM takes its responsibility as a world-leader extremely seriously, > >