On 2016-10-17 at 19:46:21 +0200, Elena ``of Valhalla'' wrote:
> I see that there has been a BOF_ about collaboration between Debian and
> the FSF at the latest Debconf, but I haven't seen the video, so I don't
> know what was said (yet, I may have just found something to watch in the
> near
On 2016-10-17 at 10:02:26 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> I wish Debian and the FSF would work together to resolve this issue.
They are, more or less: there has been quite some activity a few years
ago which lead to some changes, but work seems to have stalled
(the `mailing list`_ isn't seeing
> Which suggests the nonfree software integration the FSF spoke of is in
> there. After all, like you just said, if it's an opt-in away to get the
> nonfree software the nonfree repos are listed but not enabled until one
> answers "yes" to activate the nonfree repos Debian hosts. If this isn't the
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton writes:
...
> the FSF's position there covers *everyone else*, who, by definition,
> cannot trust or be trusted to follow explicit written or verbal
> instructions, cannot cope with a command-line prompt, cannot
> comprehend the consequences of their
On 2016-10-15 at 18:06:52 -0500, J.B. Nicholson wrote:
> Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > You can install an entirely free system with no non-free components.
> >
> > You can also install Debian without taking account of any recommends.
> But the recommends and suggests fields are still listing
On 10/16/16, Philip Hands wrote:
> "J.B. Nicholson" writes:
>
>> Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>>> they're doing the best that they believe they can do, but they _have_
>>> been told. see joey hess's very public description of the Debian
>>> Charter
On 10/15/16, J.B. Nicholson wrote:
> Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> It's entirely possible something has changed and I am not aware of relevant
> updates on this (I don't doubt you're in touch with them far more than I
> am). Please do reply to the list with updates
Of course, you can install a fully free Debian system, but 1 single
dialog in setup wizard is a bit too little.
I would rather have the tickbox to install non-free repos somewhere deep
in preferences menu and I would certainly not host them on the
debian.org domain.
Ideally, you would only add
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
they're doing the best that they believe they can do, but they _have_
been told. see joey hess's very public description of the Debian
Charter as a "toxic document".
I've seen https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/11/msg00174.html where
Hess makes