Re: [Arm-netbook] Open source Allwinner R40 circuit diagrams

2018-05-22 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
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On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 9:31 AM, joem  wrote:
 > SK Hynix H5TQ4G83AFR = 512M x 8
 > 27 RMB that means EIGHTEEN dollars just in RAM ICs.   that's if you
 > can get hold of them.

 RAM continues to be a problem to source.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I did tell / warn you :)
>
>
> Just heard cryptocurrency mining is going down the tube

 yyyeah that's unlikely to happen... or, more to the point, whomever
you heard it from is likely to be trying to create a "pump-and-dump"
social-engineering scam.  sell first, scare everyone, then buy low.

> and it may just crash memory market with it - so price bubble
> may burst by end of year.

 hooray!!   *thinks* GDDR5 is (i believe) what's commonly used
in graphics cards  you definitely don't want to be using DDR3 or
DDR4 for cryptomining platforms with standard GPUs in them.

l.

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Re: [Arm-netbook] Open source Allwinner R40 circuit diagrams

2018-05-22 Thread joem

> SK Hynix H5TQ4G83AFR = 512M x 8
> 27 RMB that means EIGHTEEN dollars just in RAM ICs.   that's if you
> can get hold of them.

RAM continues to be a problem to source.



I did tell / warn you :)


Just heard cryptocurrency mining is going down the tube
and it may just crash memory market with it - so price bubble
may burst by end of year.

JoeM
Twitter - https://twitter.com/HelloHypercube

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Re: [Arm-netbook] Open source Allwinner R40 circuit diagrams

2018-04-16 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 8:04 PM, joem  wrote:
> On 2018-04-16 19:39, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 7:32 PM, joem  wrote: is 
>> ir 4x DDR3 x8? those are getting stupidly hard to get hold of
>> however i found a company in taiwan that can make some.
>> SK Hynix H5TQ4G83AFR = 512M x 8
>
>  27 RMB that means EIGHTEEN dollars just in RAM ICs.   that's if you
> can get hold of them.
>
> First get it to boot, then ditch for cheaper RAM - someone selling for
> $14
> (probably fake).

 posssibbllyyy you might get lucky, but have someone actually from
china buy them so they have "legal recourse".


> Thanks for head up.

 no problem.

>>> I want to add a $1 STduino chip to gain control of the server
>>> at pre-boot stage and post-boot so when it goes into an array,
>>
>> STM8S003 is ridiculously cheap and really awesome.  STM32F030 is also
>> likewise cheap.
>
> STM32F103C8T6 or GD32F103C8T6 - has USB so skip having to buy a separate
> USB serial

 oh of course.  then STM32F070 / 072 - they're cheaper than the 103.  i think

l.

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Re: [Arm-netbook] Open source Allwinner R40 circuit diagrams

2018-04-16 Thread joem
On 2018-04-16 19:39, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 7:32 PM, joem  wrote: is 
> ir 4x DDR3 x8? those are getting stupidly hard to get hold of
> however i found a company in taiwan that can make some. 
> SK Hynix H5TQ4G83AFR = 512M x 8

 27 RMB that means EIGHTEEN dollars just in RAM ICs.   that's if you
can get hold of them. 

First get it to boot, then ditch for cheaper RAM - someone selling for
$14 
(probably fake). Thanks for head up. 

>> I want to add a $1 STduino chip to gain control of the server
>> at pre-boot stage and post-boot so when it goes into an array,
> 
> STM8S003 is ridiculously cheap and really awesome.  STM32F030 is also
> likewise cheap.

STM32F103C8T6 or GD32F103C8T6 - has USB so skip having to buy a separate
USB serial 

Twitter handle - https://twitter.com/HelloHypercube
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Re: [Arm-netbook] Open source Allwinner R40 circuit diagrams

2018-04-16 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 7:32 PM, joem  wrote:
>> is ir 4x DDR3 x8? those are getting stupidly hard to get hold of
>> however i found a company in taiwan that can make some.
>
> SK Hynix H5TQ4G83AFR = 512M x 8

 27 RMB that means EIGHTEEN dollars just in RAM ICs.   that's if you
can get hold of them.

> I want to add a $1 STduino chip to gain control of the server
> at pre-boot stage and post-boot so when it goes into an array,

 STM8S003 is ridiculously cheap and really awesome.  STM32F030 is also
likewise cheap.

l.

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Re: [Arm-netbook] Open source Allwinner R40 circuit diagrams

2018-04-16 Thread joem
> is ir 4x DDR3 x8? those are getting stupidly hard to get hold of
> however i found a company in taiwan that can make some.

SK Hynix H5TQ4G83AFR = 512M x 8 

I think this week layout finish and I send it off to be made. 
If the RAM cannot be sourced, then get it laid out with 
new RAM in 'no time' because there is KiCAD drawings available. 
All these improvements to KiCAD has made it thunderingly fast. 
A lot of the work actually got done in text editor 
and spread sheet csv files believe it or not ;) 
That is because the entire data is in text files instead of binary
files. 

I want to add a $1 STduino chip to gain control of the server 
at pre-boot stage and post-boot so when it goes into an array, 
I can talk to the board through RS232 link to the stduino to 
tell it to reboot the board, or shut it down in a server array without 
adding any more complexity to the board. 
I might do that before sending it off to get it made. 
Adds 1 to 2 days delay because I got all that in KiCAD already :)
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Re: [Arm-netbook] Open source Allwinner R40 circuit diagrams

2018-04-16 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
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On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 6:50 PM, joem  wrote:
> On 2018-04-13 00:46, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>
>> superb.  i might point someone i know at these, he may be interested
>> to use them.
>
> You are welcome :)
>
> Now I customize the design into a new minimalist R40 server board:
> https://www.hellosemi.com/KiCAD_Server_Board.html
>
> This board has 2GB RAM, gbit ethernet, SATA, camera, MIPI display, HDMI,

 is ir 4x DDR3 x8? those are getting stupidly hard to get hold of
however i found a company in taiwan that can make some.

l.

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Re: [Arm-netbook] Open source Allwinner R40 circuit diagrams

2018-04-16 Thread joem
On 2018-04-13 00:46, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:

> superb.  i might point someone i know at these, he may be interested
> to use them.

You are welcome :) 

Now I customize the design into a new minimalist R40 server board: 
https://www.hellosemi.com/KiCAD_Server_Board.html 

This board has 2GB RAM, gbit ethernet, SATA, camera, MIPI display, HDMI,
uSD, 8GB flash, USB OTG, USB 2.0 x 2. Removed are wifi/bluetooth, audio,
mic, Pi connector, IR module. The 8GB flash required a lot of rework as
the BGA pinouts were incorrect in the original drawing. Also I had
duplicate annotation and missing annotations in my previous KiCAD. Added
more footprints where they did not exist from KiCAD libraries. All
footprints were copied to local relative directory because switching
between different PCs is a total pain at this moment with KiCAD. After
all that work, the netlist import works without errors, and viewing 3D
works without errors :) 
Anyone can lay it out now. 
I'm guessing this PCB will come out with a BOM cost less than $20. 

For some reason Allwinner R40 SATA read seems fast but write is very
slw. Anyone know?
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Re: [Arm-netbook] Open source Allwinner R40 circuit diagrams

2018-04-12 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 12:08 AM, joem  wrote:

> Now finished footprints for all essential items - Ethernet, SMD version
> of SATA, uSD card, DDR, HDMI, AP6212 WIFI, AXP221s PMIC, eMMC, R40 CPU.
> With these anyone should be able to lay out their own boards.

 superb.  i might point someone i know at these, he may be interested
to use them.

l.

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Re: [Arm-netbook] Open source Allwinner R40 circuit diagrams

2018-04-12 Thread joem
Now finished footprints for all essential items - Ethernet, SMD version
of SATA, uSD card, DDR, HDMI, AP6212 WIFI, AXP221s PMIC, eMMC, R40 CPU.
With these anyone should be able to lay out their own boards.

>> All 11 page KiCAD conversion complete and uploaded.
>> Now moving to layout - done up Allwinner R40 BGA and 8GB eMMC BGA
>> footprints.
>> 
>> https://hellosemi.com/KiCAD_Linux_Boards.html
> 
> very cool!
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Re: [Arm-netbook] Open source Allwinner R40 circuit diagrams

2018-04-11 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 12:30 AM, joem  wrote:
> All 11 page KiCAD conversion complete and uploaded.
> Now moving to layout - done up Allwinner R40 BGA and 8GB eMMC BGA
> footprints.
>
> https://hellosemi.com/KiCAD_Linux_Boards.html

 very cool!

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Re: [Arm-netbook] Open source Allwinner R40 circuit diagrams

2018-04-11 Thread joem
All 11 page KiCAD conversion complete and uploaded.
Now moving to layout - done up Allwinner R40 BGA and 8GB eMMC BGA
footprints. 

https://hellosemi.com/KiCAD_Linux_Boards.html

>> Thinking first board will be a minimalist square board with SoC 2GB DRAM
>> serial uSD HDMI PMIC SATA USB flash just to get it to boot.
> 
> sounds eminently sensible.
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Re: [Arm-netbook] Open source Allwinner R40 circuit diagrams

2018-04-09 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
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On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 3:34 PM, joem  wrote:
> 7th page uploaded in KiCAD
>
> https://hellosemi.com/KiCAD_Linux_Boards.html

 fantastic!

> (Still only find the BPi version so far)
>
> Thinking first board will be a minimalist square board with SoC 2GB DRAM
> serial uSD HDMI PMIC SATA USB flash just to get it to boot.

 sounds eminently sensible.

l.

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Re: [Arm-netbook] Open source Allwinner R40 circuit diagrams

2018-04-09 Thread joem
7th page uploaded in KiCAD

https://hellosemi.com/KiCAD_Linux_Boards.html 

(Still only find the BPi version so far)

Thinking first board will be a minimalist square board with SoC 2GB DRAM
serial uSD HDMI PMIC SATA USB flash just to get it to boot.
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