Re: In Praise of Pay Toilets

2002-05-27 Thread John Perich
>From: john hull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Serious question: If the firm is already charging a >profit maximizing price, how can it pass the cost of >bathroom maintenance to customers as a whole? > Why do you assume the cost of bathroom maintenance isn't already included in the price charged? (

Re: In Praise of Pay Toilets

2002-05-27 Thread Robert A. Book
> > "Providing this free service [public restroom] for > > their customers only serves to reduce businesses' > > profits, or else the cost is passed on > > indiscriminately to all their customers." > > Serious question: If the firm is already charging a > profit maximizing price, how can it pass

RE: In Praise of Pay Toilets

2002-05-27 Thread Michael Etchison
john hull: >Serious question: If the firm is already charging a profit maximizing price, how can it pass the cost of bathroom maintenance to customers as a whole?< 1. There is no a priori reason to think that either * he is in fact charging a profit-maximizing price, or * he believes that he is

Re: In Praise of Pay Toilets

2002-05-27 Thread john hull
"Providing this free service [public restroom] for their customers only serves to reduce businesses' profits, or else the cost is passed on indiscriminately to all their customers." Serious question: If the firm is already charging a profit maximizing price, how can it pass the cost of bathroom m

RE: In Praise of Pay Toilets

2002-05-27 Thread Tim James
This is an example of 'bundling' goods. It pays to offer some good for 'free' to entice the purchase of others. Tim James. Probably because of what some Burger King guy called the "veto-vote." Let's say you have a group of four or five people, and one has to use the bathroom. They are in an a

RE: In Praise of Pay Toilets

2002-05-27 Thread Tim James
Point taken. But now we're back to the problem of SR/LR MC in an auction and the lowest sustainable offer. Tim James. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Etchison Sent: 27 May 2002 17:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: In Praise o

Re: In Praise of Pay Toilets

2002-05-27 Thread Dan Lewis
At 12:05 AM 5/27/02 -0400, you wrote: > >- Original Message - >From: fabio guillermo rojas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> 3. They aren't as profitable as you think because people can frequently >> use quasi-public restrooms such as fast food places, hotels, gas stations, >> etc. Ie, there are real

Re: In Praise of Pay Toilets

2002-05-27 Thread Claudio Shikida
So the choice could be to avoid the indigents or to cover costs of cleaning restrooms. We could put location in your puzzle, if you don`t mind. So, in zones with more indigents it could be thought that pay toilets would be often (or, alternatively, in a world of only paid toilets, the prices would

Re: In Praise of Pay Toilets

2002-05-27 Thread Claudio Shikida
But, wait. The quasi-public restrooms aren`t so clean as the paid restrooms. There is a difference here in quality standards. - Original Message - From: "Anton Sherwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 10:10 PM Subject: Re: In Praise of Pay Toilets

RE: In Praise of Pay Toilets

2002-05-27 Thread Michael Etchison
John Perich: >why do some public restrooms in . . . bookstores require either coins OR free tokens to use?< Starting with the observation that bookstore customers can be very odd indeed, and adding in what appears to be an observed propensity no less than average to do weird things in (semi-)pri

Re: In Praise of Pay Toilets

2002-05-27 Thread Claudio Shikida
they do it. in holland. (it`s not a joke). - Original Message - From: "Alypius Skinner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 9:05 PM Subject: Re: In Praise of Pay Toilets > > - Original Message - > From: fabio guillermo rojas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

RE: In Praise of Pay Toilets

2002-05-27 Thread Michael Etchison
Tim James: >The marginal cost of toilet use must (in most cases) be approximately zero.< If the question is -- as "marginal" seems to imply -- the cost of _one more_ user, then you're right. But, of course, the difference in usage between pay and non-pay would be far greater than that. In many

RE: In Praise of Pay Toilets

2002-05-27 Thread Micky Hervitz
I guess this is as good a subject as any for my first post to the list. 1. Pay toilets are practically the norm throughout Europe. In fact, a company, operating under the oh so clever name of "Mc Clean", operates restrooms in train stations across the continent. Train station restrooms tha

RE: In Praise of Pay Toilets

2002-05-27 Thread Tim James
The marginal cost of toilet use must (in most cases) be approximately zero. There is a (relatively) competitive market in toilet provision in most commercial environments. Suppose retailers introduced charging. In the absence of a cartel, a Dutch auction would probably occur and the price be dr

Re: In Praise of Pay Toilets

2002-05-27 Thread Alypius Skinner
- Original Message - From: fabio guillermo rojas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 3. They aren't as profitable as you think because people can frequently > use quasi-public restrooms such as fast food places, hotels, gas stations, > etc. Ie, there are real competitors. > > Fabio > Yet this is just

Re: In Praise of Pay Toilets

2002-05-27 Thread Anton Sherwood
fabio guillermo rojas wrote: > 3. They aren't as profitable as you think because people can frequently > use quasi-public restrooms such as fast food places, hotels, gas stations, > etc. Ie, there are real competitors. But in the old days those also often had coin-locks. -- Anton Sherwood,

Re: In Praise of Pay Toilets

2002-05-27 Thread John Perich
>From: Anton Sherwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >In the Seventies I remember reading of something called the Committee to >Eliminate Pay Toilets In America. If they'd changed it to "Committee to Eliminate Pay Toilets In Communities," they could have named themselves "C.E.P.T.I.C". Opportunities

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RE: In Praise of Pay Toilets

2002-05-27 Thread Ana L. Balcarcel
Just a note, I was in Madrid a few years ago, and they have pay toilets. Ana L. Balcarcel Dept of Finance- ASU -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of fabio guillermo rojas Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 6:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: In