Re: Self-assesment vs. Rationality

2002-11-11 Thread Fred Foldvary
Fred Foldvary wrote: It seems to me that the concept of rationality makes sense when it is applied to human action, but it is not meaningful when applied to beliefs. Robin Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] replied: But we are talking about a context where beliefs get translated into actions in a

Re: Self-assesment vs. Rationality

2002-11-11 Thread Bryan Caplan
Fred Foldvary wrote: It seems to me that the concept of rationality makes sense when it is applied to human action, but it is not meaningful when applied to beliefs. Action is rational or not, based on the actor's knowledge. This whole idea is forty years out of date. Economists have been

Re: Self-assesment vs. Rationality

2002-11-11 Thread Bryan Caplan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/10/02 8:41:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is a difference between ignorance and irrationality - that is the central point of this literature really. Yes. Somewhere along the line someone--either the most ardents adherents or

RE: Self-assesment vs. Rationality

2002-11-11 Thread Grey Thomas
Good link, Eric. On the other hand, if you had just quoted this paragraph: The concept of rational expectations asserts that outcomes do not differ systematically (i.e., regularly or predictably) from what people expected them to be. The concept is motivated by the same thinking that led Abraham

Re: Self-assesment vs. Rationality

2002-11-11 Thread Alex T Tabarrok
The best way to think about RE is that it is a consistency stricture that says that the agents in your model of the economy should not be less informed than you are. If you know the model then they should too and the equilibrium defined accordingly. Note that this perspective leaves it

Re: Self-assesment vs. Rationality

2002-11-11 Thread Bryan Caplan
Fred Foldvary wrote: They have been theorizing and testing about cognition, but it is not clear why it is labelled rationality. Their usage is consistent with any dictionary. ... In fact, if you know you are vain then rationally speaking you should adjust your beliefs in a more self-

Re: Self-assesment vs. Rationality

2002-11-11 Thread AdmrlLocke
In a message dated 11/11/02 10:42:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. Somewhere along the line someone--either the most ardents adherents or the most disingenuous opponents--has defined rational expectations as meaning that people are perfect prognosticators,

Re: Self-assesment vs. Rationality

2002-11-10 Thread john hull
--- fabio guillermo rojas wrote: how much of investing behavior is based on self-assesment vs. rational expectations? It seems like the difference between the return on self-managed investments vs. the market, let's say, should measure something meaningful like the value of being an executive

Re: Self-assesment vs. Rationality

2002-11-10 Thread fabio guillermo rojas
I presume you mean irrationaly optimistic self-assesment? I'd say quite a lot. But then comes the hard question: what policy implications follow from this conclusion? Yes, irrat self-assesment is a good word for it. Robin, I know you are a fan of taxing people for not using their

Re: Self-assesment vs. Rationality

2002-11-10 Thread Fred Foldvary
A key free market principle is that investors better know how to spend money than the gov't. Fabio That is not a free-market principle. The free-market principle is that a person should have control over his property. There is an economic principle that a large centralized government lacks

Re: Self-assesment vs. Rationality

2002-11-10 Thread Robin Hanson
Fred Foldvary wrote: --- Robin Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: irrationaly optimistic self-assesment? It is true that many investors are overconfident of their abilities and wrongly think they can beat the averages. But why call this irrational? It seems to me that the concept of