Re: limited liability

2002-12-18 Thread AdmrlLocke
In a message dated 12/18/02 1:09:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Perhaps the ideal structure would be two classes of investors: 1) limited-liability bondholders, with dividends per bond equal to that of owners of common shares, and no voting rights. 2) unlimited liability shareholders

Re: limited liability

2002-12-18 Thread Fred Foldvary
be lenders they make loans. A sharehold buys and owns. > Owners shouldn't be allowed to unilaterally abrogate the tort rights of > everyone else. > David Perhaps the ideal structure would be two classes of investors: 1) limited-liability bondholders, with dividends per bond equal t

Re: limited liability

2002-12-18 Thread AdmrlLocke
In a message dated 12/18/02 9:19:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << > In practice, small corporations usually cannot get loans without the > major stockholder personally guaranteeing the loans, so in those cases limited liability serves mostly to protect the owner(s) from liabi

Re: limited liability

2002-12-18 Thread Fred Foldvary
> In practice, small corporations usually cannot get loans without the > major stockholder personally guaranteeing the loans, so in those cases limited liability serves mostly to protect the owner(s) from liability to tort victims. Why that should be so I'm not sure. > David A

Re: limited liability

2002-12-17 Thread AdmrlLocke
enders involved? Yes, but there are also liabilities that can be incurred without contracts, such as if the corporation is sued for damages. > Without a personal guarrantee, from a primary > stakeholder, that serves to turn a limited liability into a full > liability, lenders are no

RE: limited liability

2002-12-17 Thread Fred Foldvary
hout contracts, such as if the corporation is sued for damages. > Without a personal guarrantee, from a primary > stakeholder, that serves to turn a limited liability into a full > liability, lenders are not very willing to make loans. True, especially if there is not adequate collateral,

Re: limited liability

2002-12-17 Thread AdmrlLocke
personal guarrantee, from a primary stakeholder, that serves to turn a limited liability into a full liability, lenders are not very willing to make loans. Cheers, Michael Giesbrecht Internet Engineering Lucasfilm Ltd. >> But what about contingent creditors of the corporation--that is,

RE: limited liability

2002-12-17 Thread Michael Giesbrecht
sonally liable, or not, for a corporations debts, based on whatever terms they reach with the lenders involved? The directors of *small* corporations certainly find themselves in that position today. Without a personal guarrantee, from a primary stakeholder, that serves to turn a limited liability

Re: limited liability

2002-12-17 Thread Fred Foldvary
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [With] a corporation there's nobody with personal liability. The directors (members of the board of directors) have liability, which is why boards buy liability insurance. U.S. and State laws limit this liability, but in a pure market, the directors should be person

Re: limited liability

2002-12-16 Thread AdmrlLocke
In a message dated 12/17/02 12:21:42 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Fred Foldvary wrote: > The argument for [limited liability] is that investors are more > willing to put up funds if they will not be personally liable. > > Nor should they be liable, since lenders are also

Re: limited liability

2002-12-16 Thread Anton Sherwood
Fred Foldvary wrote: > The argument for [limited liability] is that investors are more > willing to put up funds if they will not be personally liable. > > Nor should they be liable, since lenders are also not, and one could > map limited partners into lenders who get a return

Re: Limited Liability for Vaccine Makers

2002-11-22 Thread john hull
William Dickens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Can your friend explain why vaccines are different from other drugs?" While I'm certainly not qualified to negotiate that legal minefield, may I guess? I'd say that a drug is intended to fix an existing problem, whereas a vaccine applies a "dangerous" e

Re: Limited Liability for Vaccine Makers

2002-11-22 Thread William Dickens
Can your friend explain why vaccines are different from other drugs? Everything has side effects. Precisely because the Democrats have such a stake in pushing the interests of trial lawyers the Republicans have the opposite incentive making just about any pronouncements on this topic highly suspect

Re: Limited Liability for Vaccine Makers

2002-11-22 Thread Asa Janney
David: As you seem interested in this issue, here's a reply I got to my vaccine question from my knowledgeable friend, Ron, who is not on this network. Your, Asa The proposal, as I understand it, is not to cap liability for actual damages

Re: Limited Liability for Vaccine Makers

2002-11-20 Thread AdmrlLocke
In a message dated 11/20/02 11:50:17 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Armchairs: What are the pros and cons of limiting liability for the maker of a new vaccine? It seems to me that a disadvantage of limited liability is the moral hazard that the maker will do a less responsible

Limited Liability for Vaccine Makers

2002-11-20 Thread Asa Janney
Armchairs: What are the pros and cons of limiting liability for the maker of a new vaccine? It seems to me that a disadvantage of limited liability is the moral hazard that the maker will do a less responsible job of trying to prevent bad side effects. One advantage that has been put

RE: limited liability

2002-07-18 Thread Alex Robson
Jason DeBacker wrote: >What is the economic argument for limited liability of corporations? >Can anyone suggest some readings on this? For starters, I would recommend: Easterbrook, Frank and Fischel, Daniel (1991) "The Economic Structure of Corporate Law", Harvard University Pr

Re: limited liability

2002-07-18 Thread LFC.NET Registrar
bt? There are many other reasons, but these two are the must crucial. Also, two misconceptions: A) That limited liability shields liability from consequence of actions. No, officers are liable of any criminal actions (fraud, etc) of a company, and any employee (owner or not is irrelevant) m

limited liability

2002-07-18 Thread debacker
What is the economic argument for limited liability of corporations? Can anyone suggest some readings on this? Jason DeBacker