Re: Autism, brain damage and cooperation

2002-07-14 Thread john hull

--- Bryan D Caplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually, I was thinking about kids' amazing ability
to learn languages, which involves massive
memorization.

Language learning is a hard-wired trait--another well
established fact.  Kids pick up language automatically
from their environment.  Some neuroscientists consider
it to be analogous to imprinting, the space for
language is already there waiting to be filled.  This
imprinting faculty dries up around puberty.  That's
why it is so much easier for kids to learn new
languages, and to learn them as native speakers, i.e.
to become true polyglots.  It is also why most adults
are never really able to get rid of their accents when
after learning a new language.

...IQ is this all powerful explanatory device, or
that it is meaningless when it's neither  Not all
powerful, just one of the best available.

The purpose of the IQ test, and its main use, is to
predict school success; it is used to identify
children who need extra help in school before it's too
late.  How this relates to cooperative problems is
another issue.

-jsh


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lumpy decimals

2002-07-14 Thread john hull

Howdy,

Now that the NYSE has gone to trading in decimals,
does anybody actually negotiate to the penny?

While I'm afraid that my reasoning is obvious, here's
why I ask anyway: Negotiating to the penny is
expensive, and it may be worth a few cents to get the
trade over with and move on.  Once particular
multi-penny spreads become popular, they should
solidify into standards similar to how lawyer
percentages on money awards and manager percentages
become standardized.  So it seems like rather than
negotiating to the penny, the market should eventually
gravitate to generally accepted multi-penny
spreads--perhaps similar to the system that decimal
trading sought to replace.  

Does any one know if that is happening in the market? 
Does any one expect it to happen in the market?  If
not why?

-jsh


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Defense of Free Trade

2002-07-14 Thread John Jernigan

What is the best overall, relatively comprehensive (i.e. not just an intro
to the basic principles) book arguing for free trade/globalization?  I've
been trying to look around amazon.com, but most of the recent stuff
(Globalization and its Discontents for instance) seem to be describing the
faults of globalization.

Thanks,
John Jernigan






Re: Defense of Free Trade

2002-07-14 Thread Fred Foldvary

 What is the best overall, relatively comprehensive (i.e. not just an intro
 to the basic principles) book arguing for free trade/globalization?
 John Jernigan

One of the best books arguing for free trade remains the classic by Henry
George, Protection or Free Trade.

Fred Foldvary

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Re: Why do people pick stocks?

2002-07-14 Thread William Dickens

There is another reason howevr. Even the lowest cost index mutual funds have more 
overhead then you are going to have if you use a discount broker and buy and hold (and 
they hide these costs 

Who is the they - mutual funds or discount brokers?  And how are they
being hidden?

I've been told by a Law Professor who works on security regulation that the 
management fees reported by index funds do not fully reflect the costs they incur for 
reballencing their portfolio's to match market shares and that the actual costs are a 
multiple of the reported management fees. It was claimed that if one compared the 
return on the SP500 to the return on holding the mutual fund the difference in basis 
points would be larger than the reported management fees. I told this to a stock 
broker who insisted that that was wrong or that I had misunderstood and that perhaps 
what the law professor meant was that because the fund incurs capital gains in the 
process of dealing with fluctuations in invested funds and these have to be paid out 
and taxed that that would account for the difference between the afrter tax return 
from holding the market yourself and holding the mutual fund. Take your pick. I don't 
have first hand knowledge to judge.


Discount brokers can really beat a .2% annual fee with no loads on
either end?

For sure. Most brokerage houses don't have any fees other than fees for trading. 
Even if you have a round-trip cost of $100 for $10,000 worth of stock (you can do 
much better than this - - $14 is not out of the question) if you hold it for 20 years 
you are way ahead of a .2% annual fee. But again, according to my sources the actual 
difference in performance between holding yourself and holding in the lowest cost 
mutual fund is a lot more than .2% per year. 
- - Bill Dickens




Re: options for employees

2002-07-14 Thread Joel Simon Grus


OK, so after everything I wrote yesterday, 
I saw this article this morning:
http://reuters.com/news_article.jhtml;jsessionid=RXNPH5PSAYMYKCRBAE0CFFAKEEATGIWD?type=businessnewsStoryID=1198165

 Coca-Cola said it would expense all future stock option grants based on 
 the fair value at the date options are granted. That value will be 
 determined from stock prices received from financial institutions that 
 trade Coke shares under terms identical to the options.  

It would be curious to see the exact accounting treatment
(whether the options are revalued each quarter,
 what happens when they expire,
 what happens when they're exercised, etc...)
but the article doesn't say.

- Joel





Index mutual funds

2002-07-14 Thread James Haney

If I want to buy shares in the 500 or so companies on the SP 500, I'll be looking at 
commissions of at least $3000, right (unless I have a commissionless trading account, 
which requires a minimum balance of $500,000 or so)?  If I hold those stocks for 20 
years without ever rebalancing, that's $150/year.  $150 divided by .2% is $75,000.  
What if I don't happen to have $75,000?  Should I not invest in stocks at all until 
I've raised that much money just so I can save on commissions and fees?

If I buy 10 stocks and hold them for 20 years, I might pay less in commissions and 
management fees, but I'm much less diversified, right?

There is definitely a point at which mutual funds become less cost-effective than 
buying individual stocks, but I'm pretty certain you need to have at least $1 million 
dollars lying around in your stock portfolio for that to be true.

I've read in the Wall Street Journal that exchange-traded funds are a better deal than 
index mutual funds if you have $30,000.  If you are able to accumulate $30,000 in cash 
every month, then mutual funds don't make sense.  (That implies a disposable income of 
at least $360,000 a year).  At lower amounts, mutual funds are by far the best choice 
for convenience, cost, and diversification.

Are there any flaws in my reasoning here?

James





Re: Index mutual funds

2002-07-14 Thread William Dickens

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/14/02 14:19 PM 
If I want to buy shares in the 500 or so companies on the SP 500, I'll be looking at 
commissions of at least $3000, right (unless I have a commissionless trading account, 
which requires a minimum balance of $500,000 or so)?  If I hold those stocks for 20 
years without ever rebalancing, that's $150/year.  $150 divided by .2% is $75,000.  
What if I don't happen to have $75,000?  Should I not invest in stocks at all until 
I've raised that much money just so I can save on commissions and fees?

If I buy 10 stocks and hold them for 20 years, I might pay less in commissions and 
management fees, but I'm much less diversified, right?

There is definitely a point at which mutual funds become less cost-effective than 
buying individual stocks, but I'm pretty certain you need to have at least $1 million 
dollars lying around in your stock portfolio for that to be true.

I've read in the Wall Street Journal that exchange-traded funds are a better deal than 
index mutual funds if you have $30,000.  If you are able to accumulate $30,000 in cash 
every month, then mutual funds don't make sense.  (That implies a disposable income of 
at least $360,000 a year).  At lower amounts, mutual funds are by far the best choice 
for convenience, cost, and diversification.

Are there any flaws in my reasoning here?

James







Re: Index mutual funds

2002-07-14 Thread Fred Foldvary

 If I want to buy shares in the 500 or so companies on the SP 500, 
 Should I not invest in stocks at all until
 I've raised that much money just so I can save on commissions and fees?
 James

Why not just buy an SP index fund?

 I've read in the Wall Street Journal that exchange-traded funds are a
 better deal than index mutual funds if you have $30,000.  If you are able
 to accumulate $30,000 in cash every month, then mutual funds don't make
 sense.

Why would index mutual funds not make sense?

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Re: Why do people pick stocks?

2002-07-14 Thread Fred Foldvary

--- William Dickens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There is another reason howevr. Even the lowest cost index mutual funds
 have more overhead then you are going to have if you use a discount broker
 and buy and hold ...

But it is not wise to just buy and hold.  Firms can decline and collapse, as
we have observed, and stocks need to be closely watched.  In contrast, index
funds can be held passively, and one only needs to rebalance occasionally.
Individual stocks will need to be sold occasionally, and replaced, which
costs fees, aside from the monitoring costs.  Even indexes replace firms from
time to time.

Fred Foldvary

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