RE: Bubblemania

2003-01-26 Thread Michael Cardwell
I would say no.  The current wave of anti-American terrorism seems to
have its genesis in our presence on the Arabian peninsula as much, if
not more than it does with support for Israel.  Not that the latter
isn't being used for a justification, though. 


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Alypius Skinner wrote:
> . . . .  It became
> obvious to me fairly early in the '90's that resentment against US 
> foreign policy had made Americans overseas the preferred target of 
> terrorists.

Not in the Seventies?

-- 
Anton Sherwood, http://www.ogre.nu/








Re: Bubblemania

2003-01-26 Thread AdmrlLocke

In a message dated 1/26/03 8:02:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>(demographically, the boom began in 1943)

The fertility rate (measured per 1000 women) in 1943 barely exceeded that of 
1942 (2,718 v. 2,628), follwed by declines in 1944 (2,568) and 1945 (2,491), 
only a bit higher than the rates of 1941 (2,301) and 1940 (2,301).

In 1946, however, the rate rose to 2,943 and thereafter remained above 3,000 
through 1964 (3,208) and then again in 1965 (2,928), 1966 (2,736), 1967 
(2,573), 1968 (2,477), and 1969 (2,465).  I've generally heard demographers 
to include the years 1946-1964 in the Baby Boom, although one might arguably 
include 1965 or exclude 1946.  

The Baby Boom stands out even more starkly if one uses live birth rates per 
1,000 women: the number doesn't exceed 100 until 1946, and then does so every 
year through 1964, after which it again falls below 100.  (Source: Historical 
Statistics of the United States, Colonial Times to 1970, Part I, pp. 51-53.)

DBL




Re: are real estate markets competitive?

2003-01-26 Thread AdmrlLocke

In a message dated 1/25/03 9:20:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>  Federal, state and local land regulations often discourage
>> the conversion of currently-farmed land for other purposes, like
>indstrial or high-density residential use.  The number of people engaged
>in
>full-time farming has continued to decline, and virtually nobody not
>already
>> engaged in farming or from a farming family enters farming.  There's
>thus
>little additional demand for farming land,<
>
>But don't the billions of dollars of farm subsidies benefit some farmers,
>making their land more valuable?
>When farmers are grandfathered into price supports, does this run with
>the
>land or with the farmer?
>
>Fred Foldvary

It was my understanding that grain price supports were to be phased out by 
last year or the year before.  Since I stopped following such matters for the 
most part around 2000, I'm not sure whether Congress allowed the phase out to 
complete.  I do recall both Tom Harkin (Democratic US Senator from Iowa) and 
Jim Nussle (Republican US Represenative from the next district over in Iowa) 
rushing to Newt Gingrich a few years back to try to stave off the full phase 
out, but as I recall they did not succeed.  I'm not familiar with any 
"grandfathering" to avoid the phase out; the subsidies before the phase out 
went with the crop, not the farmer or the land (although the PIK program paid 
the farmer not to plant a crop, and I think there the benefits probably went 
with the land).  If the phase out does have some grandfather clause to 
prevent or slow the phase out, I suppose it might have gonen with either the 
land or the farmer.  I seem to recall that the ag subsidies had a per person 
limit and that farmers often evaded the limits by putting parcels of land in 
the name of wives, daughters, sons, cousins, in-laws, outlaws, etc.

I'm sure that if the subsidies go with a parcel of land that they tend to 
raise the value of the land, but maybe only if someone actually grows the 
crop on the land.

DBL




Re: Bubblemania

2003-01-26 Thread Anton Sherwood
Alypius Skinner wrote:

. . . .  It became
obvious to me fairly early in the '90's that resentment against US foreign
policy had made Americans overseas the preferred target of terrorists.


Not in the Seventies?

--
Anton Sherwood, http://www.ogre.nu/





Re: Bubblemania

2003-01-26 Thread Alypius Skinner

> That's a good point about the post-9/11 recovery.  But I still suspect
> the indirect consequences of 9/11 played a role.  From the graph, it
> looks like the post 9/11 recovery coincided with the surprisingly easy
> victory over the Taliban.

No, I remember the market bottomed on 9-21, just 10 days later (and remember
the market was shut down for 4 trading days right after the attack), and the
market immediately began to surge vigorously back up.  Traders with long
memories began buying as soon as the market reopened, because similar
shocks, because the markets have always rebounded quickly in the past from
similar shocks, such as the Pearl Harbor attack or the assassination of
President Kennedy.  I well remember another distortion that happened right
after 9-11:  gasoline prices immediately shot up to ridiculous levels at
many outlets--no danger posed to oil supplies on 9-12 of course, just lots
of merchants (but not all) trying to exploit a general climate of fear.  I
don't know who to despise more--the greedy gasoline merchants, or the
unthinking dupes who were stupid enough to actually buy at those elevated
prices.   The latter are probably the same people who believe there's a
social security "trust fund,"  that every up and down wiggle in the GDP is
caused by decisions of the US President, or, in the northeast,  that
everyone with a southern accent dresses  in white sheets and pillow cases
for their barbeques.

And it's plausible that part of the
> subsequent decline stems from the growing realization that further
> military action would continue after the Taliban's defeat.

More likely, part of the decline comes from because the markets are
uncertain as to whether there will be further military action.  After the
10% correction following Iraq's invasion of Kuwait in 1990, the market took
off like a rocket as soon as the US began dropping its bombs on Iraq the
following January.  It is not so much war as uncertainty that rattles the
markets.  The markets were also weak during the weeks following the election
of 2000, when no one knew for sure who the next US President would be.

There were very vigorous rallies in July (which quickly gave all the gains
back) and, I think, Ocotober of last year.   The latter rally was driven
heavily by hedge funds buying heavily into telecom and other tech-related
stocks with a very dim outlook.  As soon as these stocks show signs of
weakness, they will dump them just as quickly (maybe they have already
started--I'm not following this sector much these days).  Insiders in these
stocks have been overwhelmingly (over 90%) sellers even as the price was
driven up by hedge fund speculation.  Many small investors, who held steady
during events that could have turned into market routs on a few occasions in
the late '90's, are sitting on the sidelines nursing their cash.  Until
their confidence returns, none of these bear-market rallies will be
sustainable--they're known in the trade as "suckers' rallies," although this
shoe only fits if you don't know when to get out again, and I would guess
that most small investors don't.  Since 2000, this has been a trader's
market--a market in secular decline punctuated by fierce but brief rallies
which soon give back all their gains.

About 20 years ago, Harry Dent wrote a book called _The Great Boom Ahead_.
Based solely on demographic projections, he predicted the course of the
market with surprising accuracy, including the recent weakness (although he
wrongly anticipated this weakness would be accompanied by temporary
inflationary pressures).  He predicted the market would recove in 2003 and
enjoy "smooth sailing" through 2008.  After 2009, he thinks the US economy
will fall off the cliff into a depression.  He makes this assumption solely
on demographic projections (which may have since been altered by heavy
immigration, I don't know), although I think the retirement of the baby
boomers (demographically, the boom began in 1943), reducing surplus social
security revenue, drawing down their 401K's and IRA's, and switching many of
their investments from stocks to bonds, will be enough by itself to
precipitate an economic crisis at some point.

Oh yes, I seem to recall a matter which I never got around to replying to in
a previous thread (I'm bad about that) concerning someone's doubt that aging
boomers would switch their investments from stocks to safer investments like
bonds.  It has long been the practice for financial advisors to tell their
clients to put more of their money in bonds and less in stocks as they get
older.  One popular rule of thumb among such advisors is that the amount one
invests in stocks should be 100% minus his age.   If we enter a particularly
bad market after 2008, I expect many boomers will shift 100% of their money
into high grade bonds.  By the way, I read somewhere (I think it was the
PIMCO site) that bonds outperformed the broad market averages for the decade
of the '90's.  This sounds surprising, but 

Re: fashion

2003-01-26 Thread Susan Hogarth
On Sunday 26 January 2003 09:30 am, William Sjostrom wrote:
> I had recently had a visitor, my wife's 19 year old nephew, who came from
> the States to stay for a couple of weeks.  Winter weather in the UK and
> Ireland is always damp and cold, generally conducive to bad colds.  His
> dress was teenage fashion, at least where he comes from: a t-shirt and a
> short sleeve shirt, unbuttoned.  In a dry climate, this might be tolerable;
> in a damp climate it is deadly.  He adamantly refused to wear a sweater,
> and came down with a chest infection.

Has there ever been shown a correlation between clothing styles and infection 
rates? I suppose cold could be an added stress, which could lower a person's 
immunity, but my guess is that the exhaustion of transatlantic travel would 
have been the greter stress. Add that to the introduction of a swarm of novel 
(to him) infectious agents, and a cold seems inevitable.

> My puzzle is this.  I am familiar with only two rational choice explanation
> for fashions: information cascades and signaling.  Information cascades may
> explain why doctors use the same medicine, but I do not see how they
> explain odd clothing fashions, from bell bottoms to platform shoes. 
> Signaling may explain weird clothes among teenagers, but I do not see how
> it can explain costly attachment to fashion where there is no one to
> signal.

Habit and (mental) comfort. That is, he *likes* those clothes.

-- 
Susan Hogarth
http://www.tribeagles.org/




fashion

2003-01-26 Thread William Sjostrom
I had recently had a visitor, my wife's 19 year old nephew, who came from
the States to stay for a couple of weeks.  Winter weather in the UK and
Ireland is always damp and cold, generally conducive to bad colds.  His
dress was teenage fashion, at least where he comes from: a t-shirt and a
short sleeve shirt, unbuttoned.  In a dry climate, this might be tolerable;
in a damp climate it is deadly.  He adamantly refused to wear a sweater, and
came down with a chest infection.

My puzzle is this.  I am familiar with only two rational choice explanation
for fashions: information cascades and signaling.  Information cascades may
explain why doctors use the same medicine, but I do not see how they explain
odd clothing fashions, from bell bottoms to platform shoes.  Signaling may
explain weird clothes among teenagers, but I do not see how it can explain
costly attachment to fashion where there is no one to signal.

Is there a better rational choice explanation of fashion?

Bill Sjostrom


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Re: are real estate markets competitive?

2003-01-26 Thread AdmrlLocke

In a message dated 1/25/03 3:54:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>"I'm also reminded that, like one friend of mine,
>people who work in small towns often buy an old farm
>house and live in it, while contracting out to some
>neighbor or farming friend to do a little bit of
>farming on the land the buyer doesn't use for
>residential purposes."
>
>Is that what they call "gentleman farming"?

Well my friend generally acted like a gentleman, but he also spends most of 
his time on the verge of bankruptcy, so he probably doesn't qualify as a 
gentleman farmer.  Sam Donaldson, on the other hand, who often acts in an 
ungentlemanly manner, collects substantial federal mohair subsidies, and 
therefore might be considered a gentleman farmer.

DBL