Re: Index mutual funds

2002-07-16 Thread William Dickens
>Do you seriously find this exercise helpful? Couldn't you just as >easily back out the (von Neumann-Morgenstern, I presume) utility >function you need to get an introspectively plausible answer? In other >words, if you feel nervous with a SD of 20% of the mean, could looking >at utility functio

Re: Index mutual funds

2002-07-15 Thread Bryan D Caplan
William Dickens wrote: > >>>Well what I suppose we should be using isn't either the SD or the Var, but the % >of the maximum increase in utility that is possible with increasing diversification. >Playing around with a few examples it looked to me that the gain in utility was >inversely proport

Re: Index mutual funds

2002-07-15 Thread William Dickens
Bryan wrote: Right, but if you want to reduce the SD of your return, you've got to square those numbers - you need 100 stocks to get the SD down by 90%. And isn't that the measure of risk most people vaguely have in mind? >>>Well what I suppose we should be using isn't either the SD or the Var,

Re: Index mutual funds

2002-07-15 Thread Bryan Caplan
William Dickens wrote: > >>> Not that much. Assuming constant variance and correlation the variance fraction >of the possible reduction you can get is inversely proportional to the number of >stocks you hold (you get half the reduction relative to holding one stock by holding >2 90% by holding

Re: Index mutual funds

2002-07-14 Thread Fred Foldvary
reet Journal that exchange-traded funds are a > better deal than index mutual funds if you have $30,000. If you are able > to accumulate $30,000 in cash every month, then mutual funds don't make > sense. Why would index mutual funds not mak

Re: Index mutual funds

2002-07-14 Thread William Dickens
least $1 million dollars lying around in your stock portfolio for that to be true. I've read in the Wall Street Journal that exchange-traded funds are a better deal than index mutual funds if you have $30,000. If you are able to accumulate $30,000 in cash every month, then mutual funds don'

Re: Index mutual funds

2002-07-14 Thread William Dickens
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/14/02 14:19 PM >>> If I want to buy shares in the 500 or so companies on the S&P 500, I'll be looking at commissions of at least $3000, right >>>That would be very low. I would guess that most people would pay roundtrip costs >with a presnet value of about $15 for hold

Re: Index Mutual Funds

2002-07-14 Thread Vincenzo DellOlio
James wrote: “If I hold those stocks for 20 years without ever rebalancing, that’s $150/year.”     Well, it is $3000 for the first year, and then $0 for the remaining 19 years. If you were to invest the $3000 at 5% per year, then you would receive $150/year before taxes. This $150 would wash with t

Index mutual funds

2002-07-14 Thread James Haney
that to be true. I've read in the Wall Street Journal that exchange-traded funds are a better deal than index mutual funds if you have $30,000. If you are able to accumulate $30,000 in cash every month, then mutual funds don't make sense. (That implies a disposable income of at least