Re: Now Bush to win 1.5:1

2004-11-03 Thread Robert A. Book
At 5:33 EST Robin wrote: Tradesports, IEM, Betfair give Kerry a 71 to 74% chance to win. At 10:02 EST, Robin wrote: Tradesports now gives Bush a 62% of winning. Doesn't this big swing undermine the theory that markets are consistently good predictors of elections? --Robert Book [EMAIL

Re: Projections and Media incentives

2004-11-03 Thread Jeffrey Rous
From CNN.com: Sen. John Kerry's campaign refused to concede early Wednesday, arguing that more than 250,000 provisional and absentee ballots remained to be counted in the key battleground state of Ohio. New Mexico will not release presidential election results until later Wednesday because

Re: Now Bush to win 1.5:1

2004-11-03 Thread Robin Hanson
Well the betting markets made a big reversal last night, from up to almost 75% in favor of Kerry, now down to a 5% chance for Kerry (even that looks too high, so I finally made my first election bet). Of course we should expect this sort of reversal at least 1/4 of the time, so one can't be too

Re: Projections and Media incentives

2004-11-03 Thread Peter C. McCluskey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Friedman) writes: It's possible that I'm missing something--that there is some additional large source of uncertainty that could change the outcome, such as huge numbers of uncounted absentee ballots--but I don't think so. It looks to me as though CNN doesn't want to

Re: Now Bush to win 1.5:1

2004-11-03 Thread AdmrlLocke
In a message dated 11/3/04 6:54:43 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the end the important question is comparative - are there any other institutions that on average do better? So far direction comparisons between markets and other institutions in the field have favored markets. And real and

Re: Now Bush to win 1.5:1

2004-11-03 Thread Robin Hanson
I wrote: ... So far direction comparisons between markets and other institutions in the field have favored markets. ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] responded: In this case, were the markets closer than the polls taken right before the election? Were they closer than the exit polls? I don't know the details

Comparing Tradesports to the pollsters

2004-11-03 Thread Peter C. McCluskey
Assuming the preliminary results are accurately indicating the final results, Tradesports did quite well at predicting the elections (except for a few hours on Tuesday afternoon when it mistakenly reacted to exit polls). It's Monday evening prices correctly indicated which presidential candidate