[aroma.affymetrix] Re: run FirmaGene on exon array ?

2010-08-30 Thread Qicheng Ma
Hi Mark,

 I looked at their customCDF file, I feel it would be easier to use
their CDF file  and modify the transcript annotation  and  probe sequence
files than to modify the Affy CDF file.  However, they provide CDF files to
both genes (ENSG) and transcripts (ENST).

 Could you tell me whether it make more sense to use CDF for ENSG or
CDF for ENST for alternative splicing analysis with exon arrary by FirmaGene
?

Thanks,

Qicheng

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Qicheng Ma qicheng...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Mark,

   Thank for your quick reply. If I can make a custom CDF myself
 according to FirmaGene requirement:

 1)need a CDF file where all the probes (cells) are within 1 group ... AND,
 2)need to ensure that the order of the probes is the order in which they
 map to the genome/transcript.

what kind of info do I need to extract from the
 HuEx-1_0-st-v2,coreR3,
 A20071112,EP.cdf file to satisfy those two requirement.

 Thanks again,

 Qicheng


 On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Mark Robinson mrobin...@wehi.edu.auwrote:

 Hi Qicheng.

 I don't think that particular CDF will work with FIRMAGene, since it is
 laid out in a list of lists (probes -- cells, for probe selection regions
 or groups -- are laid out within transcript clusters -- units).  The
 cell/group/unit are CDF speak.

 Basically, in order for FIRMAGene to work (and note that I haven't run
 FIRMAGene on the Exon platform myself), you need a CDF file where all the
 probes (cells) are within 1 group ... AND, you need to ensure that the order
 of the probes is the order in which they map to the genome/transcript.  This
 is what FIRMAGene assumes.

 I believe the CDF files created by brainarray:


 http://brainarray.mbni.med.umich.edu/Brainarray/Database/CustomCDF/CDF_download.asp

 ... are organized this way, but you'd have to verify that for yourself.

 Hope that gets you started.

 Cheers,
 Mark

 On 2010-08-27, at 6:36 AM, Qicheng Ma wrote:

  Hi Mark,
 
Could you please tell me whether we can run FirmaGene (
 http://bioinf.wehi.edu.au/folders/firmagene/sup3_04feb2010.R) on human
 exon array using CDF file HuEx-1_0-st-v2,coreR3,A20071112,EP.cdf , since
 FirmaGene score would be more useful than Firma score from individual exons
 ?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Qicheng

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[aroma.affymetrix] Re: run FirmaGene on exon array ?

2010-08-29 Thread Mark Robinson
Hi Qicheng.

I don't think that particular CDF will work with FIRMAGene, since it is laid 
out in a list of lists (probes -- cells, for probe selection regions or 
groups -- are laid out within transcript clusters -- units).  The 
cell/group/unit are CDF speak.

Basically, in order for FIRMAGene to work (and note that I haven't run 
FIRMAGene on the Exon platform myself), you need a CDF file where all the 
probes (cells) are within 1 group ... AND, you need to ensure that the order of 
the probes is the order in which they map to the genome/transcript.  This is 
what FIRMAGene assumes.

I believe the CDF files created by brainarray:

http://brainarray.mbni.med.umich.edu/Brainarray/Database/CustomCDF/CDF_download.asp

... are organized this way, but you'd have to verify that for yourself.

Hope that gets you started.

Cheers,
Mark

On 2010-08-27, at 6:36 AM, Qicheng Ma wrote:

 Hi Mark,
 
   Could you please tell me whether we can run FirmaGene 
 (http://bioinf.wehi.edu.au/folders/firmagene/sup3_04feb2010.R) on human exon 
 array using CDF file HuEx-1_0-st-v2,coreR3,A20071112,EP.cdf , since FirmaGene 
 score would be more useful than Firma score from individual exons ?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Qicheng

--
Mark Robinson, PhD (Melb)
Epigenetics Laboratory, Garvan
Bioinformatics Division, WEHI
e: m.robin...@garvan.org.au
e: mrobin...@wehi.edu.au
p: +61 (0)3 9345 2628
f: +61 (0)3 9347 0852
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