Re: Pros and Cons of ARS development - was Buy vs. Build

2008-07-24 Thread Gary Opela (Corporate)
ction Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Garrison, Sean (Norcross) Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:11 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Pros and Cons of ARS development - was Buy vs. Build Having been a developer for years here are some of my experie

Re: Pros and Cons of ARS development - was Buy vs. Build

2008-07-24 Thread Garrison, Sean (Norcross)
imply license the stuff you want. (I think this is available somewhere). I am not saying all of these things to bash ARS. I love ARS as a tool and feel that it provides a lot of value. I feel that by sharing them maybe there are some things of value that BMC could address in future releases.

Re: Pros and Cons of ARS development - was Buy vs. Build

2008-07-24 Thread Frank, Gordon (CMS/CTR)
) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:16 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Pros and Cons of ARS development - was Buy vs. Build Shawn, I have thought _a lot_ about how to describe ARS over the last 10 years. I find it interesting that lots of

Re: Pros and Cons of ARS development - was Buy vs. Build

2008-07-24 Thread Jason Miller
This may not be a pro for businesses who use Remedy but the fact that it is not a mainstream language makes it a good market those who know how to develop with the tool. I think typically a Remedy developer's pay is going to be higher than say a .NET, php, . So with all of the typical features tha

Re: Pros and Cons of ARS development - was Buy vs. Build

2008-07-24 Thread Carey Matthew Black
Shawn, I have thought _a lot_ about how to describe ARS over the last 10 years. I find it interesting that lots of programmers can not even agree on what "generation" of a language (and in some cases if ARS is a language at all) that ARS is. I have also observed that most business people have a ha

Re: Pros and Cons of ARS development - was Buy vs. Build

2008-07-24 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
my manager). Fred -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:00 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Pros and Cons of ARS development - was Buy vs. Build I want to change th

Re: Pros and Cons of ARS development - was Buy vs. Build

2008-07-24 Thread Chapin, John
elpDesk form. But again, this problem was created by us, not by Remedy per se. (now I feel better...) John -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:00 AM To: arslist@ARSLIS

Pros and Cons of ARS development - was Buy vs. Build

2008-07-24 Thread Pierson, Shawn
I want to change the topic slightly and go off on a tangent that keeps coming up repeatedly. That topic is of the power of ARS for development. While I agree that ARS is great, I would have to qualify that to say that if you want to build an application that is within its capabilities, it is gr