Re: BMC sues SNOW

2014-09-29 Thread Pierson, Shawn
.) Thanks, Shawn Pierson Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Richter, Howard (CEI - Atlanta) Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 4:50 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: BMC sues SNOW ** Either way its going

Re: BMC sues SNOW

2014-09-26 Thread Pierson, Shawn
: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of William Rentfrow Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 4:15 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: BMC sues SNOW ** The other point is that you don't have to convince an IT expert this is a violation of technology

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2014-09-26 Thread Ortega, Jesus A
Should we be worried that BMC has to resort to suing the competition, rather than innovate and beat them fair and square. Is this a sign that BMC is very worried about what Service Now is doing to them? -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)

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2014-09-26 Thread Ken Pritchard
Of Ortega, Jesus A Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 1:58 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: BMC sues SNOW Should we be worried that BMC has to resort to suing the competition, rather than innovate and beat them fair and square. Is this a sign that BMC is very worried about what Service Now

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2014-09-26 Thread John Sundberg
System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Ortega, Jesus A Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 1:58 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: BMC sues SNOW Should we be worried that BMC has to resort to suing the competition, rather than innovate and beat them fair

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2014-09-26 Thread Richter, Howard (CEI - Atlanta)
Capital has. -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Ortega, Jesus A Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 1:58 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: BMC sues SNOW Should

Re: BMC sues SNOW

2014-09-25 Thread Rick Cook
Most patents these days aren't for new concepts, but slight - sometimes almost imperceptively so - tweaks in the way something is done. We'll see how these come out, but I think the poster who suggested that this was more a marketing ploy than anything might be more on the mark than most. Rick

Re: BMC sues SNOW

2014-09-25 Thread Ken Pritchard
Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 5:06 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: BMC sues SNOW ** Most patents these days aren't for new concepts, but slight - sometimes almost imperceptively so - tweaks

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2014-09-25 Thread William Rentfrow
(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 4:06 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: BMC sues SNOW ** Most patents these days aren't for new concepts, but slight - sometimes almost imperceptively so - tweaks in the way something is done

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2014-09-23 Thread LJ LongWing
Interesting. On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:01 AM, John Sundberg john.sundb...@kineticdata.com wrote: ** http://www.bmc.com/news/press-releases/2014/BMC-Software-Sues-ServiceNow-for-Patent-Infringement.html -- *John Sundberg* Kinetic Data, Inc. Your Business. Your Process.

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2014-09-23 Thread Ken Pritchard
of in legal fees. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of LJ LongWing Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 11:09 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: BMC sues SNOW ** Interesting. On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:01 AM, John Sundberg

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2014-09-23 Thread William Rentfrow
(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Ken Pritchard Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 10:13 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: BMC sues SNOW ** Making the accusation is the easy part – proving it is much tougher – just ask JJ. They tried suing a (small) competitor regarding

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2014-09-23 Thread John Sundberg
That is a “stolen quote” … Many people say that line. Indirectly - it is saying - nothing is invented - just new interpretations of existing stuff. Take for example: http://www.google.com/patents/US7617073 Adding colors to elements - based on health - and then make special marks based on a

Re: BMC sues SNOW

2014-09-23 Thread Rick Cook
Maybe, but legally, there is a difference between stealing a concept (nothing new under the sun) and stealing (the details) how that concept is brought to market. It doesn't help that the SNOW C-team is full of people with a track record of unethical, if not illegal, behavior. That BMC isn't the

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2014-09-23 Thread William Rentfrow
23, 2014 10:44 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: BMC sues SNOW ** That is a “stolen quote” … Many people say that line. Indirectly - it is saying - nothing is invented - just new interpretations of existing stuff. Take for example: http://www.google.com/patents/US7617073 Adding colors

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2014-09-23 Thread Danny Kellett
I can't see how any of these actually stand up in court. If you read the first patent it basically says get the details of a computer system into a text file and load the information into a database If that's the case then Tivoli, et al, look out! What a waste of time, money and resource

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2014-09-23 Thread Lippincott, Levi (OMA-GIS)
Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Danny Kellett Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 11:10 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: BMC sues SNOW ** I can't see how any of these actually stand up in court. If you read the first patent it basically says

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2014-09-23 Thread William Rentfrow
Cell: 715-498-5056 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Danny Kellett Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 11:10 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: BMC sues SNOW ** I can't see how any of these actually stand up in court. If you read

Re: BMC sues SNOW

2014-09-23 Thread Joe D'Souza
Subject: Re: BMC sues SNOW ** The money quote: ...company founder, Fred Luddy, described his approach to innovation by saying . . . good artists copy and great artists steal, and I've been a thief all my life. Little tip: That's maybe not something you say in public, Fred. You may remember

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2014-09-23 Thread Jason Miller
Ah look, they are getting the Peregrine band back together for Financial Raid 2014. It has been 10 years, time for a reunion tour. Let me guess, they have some people singing backing vocals from the joint. Jason On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Rick Cook remedyr...@gmail.com wrote: ** The

Re: BMC sues SNOW

2014-09-23 Thread John Sundberg
Of *Rick Cook *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2014 11:08 AM *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG *Subject:* Re: BMC sues SNOW ** The money quote: ...company founder, Fred Luddy, described his approach to innovation by saying “. . . good artists copy and great artists steal, and I’ve been a thief all my

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2014-09-23 Thread richard....@bwc.state.oh.us
Your tax dollars at work…. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of William Rentfrow Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 12:18 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: BMC sues SNOW ** Keep in mind the US patent office gave a patent to a guy

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2014-09-23 Thread Richter, Howard (CEI - Atlanta)
All, I wonder if its based on some of the former BMC/Remedy employees that now work for SNOW and the fact that employers require NDAs. Just a thought. Howard From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Danny Kellett Sent: Tuesday, September

Re: BMC sues SNOW

2014-09-23 Thread Brittain, Mark
to SNOW, might think again or wait. Mark From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Richter, Howard (CEI - Atlanta) Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 3:09 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: BMC sues SNOW ** All, I wonder if its based