Re: [arts-dev] ARTS scattering database interfaces

2019-08-16 Thread Robin Nils Ekelund
Hi Stefan,


This is a fair point. Originally the intention was to use the Zenodo repository 
only for more major updates, while the ftp-server was intended for development 
versions. Regardless, I think we should reevaluate this approach. For instance, 
we should probably host the development version of the interface on GitHub 
instead (with the database itself still on the ftp server). We'll discuss this 
when Patrick and Simon are back from vacation.


Best regards,

Robin Ekelund
PhD Student
Department of Space, Earth and Environment
+46(0)31 772 17 66
robin.ekel...@chalmers.se

Chalmers University of Technology
Hörsalsvägen 9/11
SE-412 96 Göteborg, Sweden
www.chalmers.se


From: Stefan Buehler 
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 12:09:55 PM
To: Oliver Lemke
Cc: Robin Nils Ekelund; Stuart Fox; arts_dev.mi@lists.uni-hamburg.de
Subject: Re: [arts-dev] ARTS scattering database interfaces

Dear all,

I started with Zenodo yesterday for another project, and it was very pleasant 
to use actually. So I would suggest to put updates also there, it supports this 
very well. (It automatically generates a special DOI that always points to the 
latest version.) Then on the ARTS webpage just refer to Zenodo.

Best wishes,

Stefan

> On 16. Aug 2019, at 11:33, Oliver Lemke  wrote:
>
> Hi Robin,
>
> We removed the link to the ftp server from the webpage once the database was 
> published on Zenodo.
>
> Our FTP server contains the same version as Zenodo anyway:
>
> ftp://ftp-projects.cen.uni-hamburg.de/arts/ArtsScatDbase/
>
> Once there are updates available which are not published on Zenodo, we can of 
> course put the link back.
>
> Cheers,
> Oliver
>
>
>> On 16 Aug 2019, at 10:57, Robin Nils Ekelund  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Stuart,
>>
>> Thanks for your input and sorry for the late reply, just got back to the 
>> office.
>>
>> As Jana  mentioned, most of us use the Matlab interface, hence we haven't 
>> detected this specific issue so far.
>>
>> Apart from the Zenodo repository, we have one on a ftp-server in Hamburg. I 
>> just checked the ARTS website and found that it's not linked anywhere yet. 
>> Currently it doesn't matter, because there's is currently no newer version 
>> than the Zenodo one yet anyway.
>>
>> I'll have a look at your changes Stuart and make sure that those are 
>> available in a new version, accessible from the ARTS homepage. I'm no Python 
>> expert, but I have others I can consult.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Robin Ekelund
>> PhD Student
>> Department of Space, Earth and Environment
>> +46(0)31 772 17 66
>> robin.ekel...@chalmers.se
>>
>> Chalmers University of Technology
>> Hörsalsvägen 9/11
>> SE-412 96 Göteborg, Sweden
>> www.chalmers.se<http://www.chalmers.se>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: arts_dev.mi-boun...@mailman.rrz.uni-hamburg.de 
>>  on behalf of Jana Mendrok 
>> 
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 12:44 PM
>> To: arts_dev.mi@lists.uni-hamburg.de
>> Cc: Fox, Stuart
>> Subject: Re: [arts-dev] ARTS scattering database interfaces
>>
>> Hi Stuart,
>>
>> I guess, it's me to blame here. I did some testing, but obviously not 
>> exhaustive (enough) ;)
>> Maybe it went unnoticed since there is a also matlab version of this, and 
>> maybe everyone who applied the method so far has used matlab. (at least 
>> Patrick. Who surely used the interpolation routine. But very likely in 
>> matlab.)
>>
>> Back when we developed this, we had an internal repository, which likely 
>> still exists, but I don't think there is a semi-public one like for ARTS and 
>> other ARTS-related tools. Yet. Could be a good thing to have, but that's up 
>> to Patrick and /or Stefan to decide and initiate.
>> Would likely be good, if your changes are at least put into the internal 
>> repository. But I have to leave that to others of the ARTS-DB project group.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Jana
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 11:10 AM Fox, Stuart  
>> wrote:
>> Hi developers,
>>
>> I’ve been trying to use the Python assp methods (downloaded from the Zenodo 
>> link) to work with some single scattering data. Specifically, I have been 
>> trying to use assp.assp_interp_size to interpolate some optical properties 
>> onto a common size grid. However, there seems to be a number of bugs and 
>> typos in the code which mean that it doesn’t run.
>>
>> I think I’ve fixed the code so that it “works” (attached). However, I’m 
>> curious to know if anyone has actually used this method before, and if there 
>> are

Re: [arts-dev] ARTS scattering database interfaces

2019-08-16 Thread Stefan Buehler
Dear all,

I started with Zenodo yesterday for another project, and it was very pleasant 
to use actually. So I would suggest to put updates also there, it supports this 
very well. (It automatically generates a special DOI that always points to the 
latest version.) Then on the ARTS webpage just refer to Zenodo.

Best wishes,

Stefan

> On 16. Aug 2019, at 11:33, Oliver Lemke  wrote:
> 
> Hi Robin,
> 
> We removed the link to the ftp server from the webpage once the database was 
> published on Zenodo.
> 
> Our FTP server contains the same version as Zenodo anyway:
> 
> ftp://ftp-projects.cen.uni-hamburg.de/arts/ArtsScatDbase/
> 
> Once there are updates available which are not published on Zenodo, we can of 
> course put the link back.
> 
> Cheers,
> Oliver
> 
> 
>> On 16 Aug 2019, at 10:57, Robin Nils Ekelund  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Stuart,
>> 
>> Thanks for your input and sorry for the late reply, just got back to the 
>> office. 
>> 
>> As Jana  mentioned, most of us use the Matlab interface, hence we haven't 
>> detected this specific issue so far.
>> 
>> Apart from the Zenodo repository, we have one on a ftp-server in Hamburg. I 
>> just checked the ARTS website and found that it's not linked anywhere yet. 
>> Currently it doesn't matter, because there's is currently no newer version 
>> than the Zenodo one yet anyway.
>> 
>> I'll have a look at your changes Stuart and make sure that those are 
>> available in a new version, accessible from the ARTS homepage. I'm no Python 
>> expert, but I have others I can consult.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Robin Ekelund
>> PhD Student   
>> Department of Space, Earth and Environment
>> +46(0)31 772 17 66
>> robin.ekel...@chalmers.se
>> 
>> Chalmers University of Technology
>> Hörsalsvägen 9/11
>> SE-412 96 Göteborg, Sweden
>> www.chalmers.se
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: arts_dev.mi-boun...@mailman.rrz.uni-hamburg.de 
>>  on behalf of Jana Mendrok 
>> 
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 12:44 PM
>> To: arts_dev.mi@lists.uni-hamburg.de
>> Cc: Fox, Stuart
>> Subject: Re: [arts-dev] ARTS scattering database interfaces
>> 
>> Hi Stuart,
>> 
>> I guess, it's me to blame here. I did some testing, but obviously not 
>> exhaustive (enough) ;)
>> Maybe it went unnoticed since there is a also matlab version of this, and 
>> maybe everyone who applied the method so far has used matlab. (at least 
>> Patrick. Who surely used the interpolation routine. But very likely in 
>> matlab.)
>> 
>> Back when we developed this, we had an internal repository, which likely 
>> still exists, but I don't think there is a semi-public one like for ARTS and 
>> other ARTS-related tools. Yet. Could be a good thing to have, but that's up 
>> to Patrick and /or Stefan to decide and initiate.
>> Would likely be good, if your changes are at least put into the internal 
>> repository. But I have to leave that to others of the ARTS-DB project group.
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> Jana
>> 
>> On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 11:10 AM Fox, Stuart  
>> wrote:
>> Hi developers,
>> 
>> I’ve been trying to use the Python assp methods (downloaded from the Zenodo 
>> link) to work with some single scattering data. Specifically, I have been 
>> trying to use assp.assp_interp_size to interpolate some optical properties 
>> onto a common size grid. However, there seems to be a number of bugs and 
>> typos in the code which mean that it doesn’t run.
>> 
>> I think I’ve fixed the code so that it “works” (attached). However, I’m 
>> curious to know if anyone has actually used this method before, and if there 
>> are any potential pitfalls I should be aware of? Is there a repository 
>> anywhere for the database interfaces for up-to-date versions etc?
>> 
>> I also had to make some changes to typhon to get things running – see 
>> https://github.com/atmtools/typhon/pull/308
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Stuart
>> 
>> Dr Stuart Fox  Radiation Research Manager
>> Met Office FitzRoy Road  Exeter  Devon  EX1 3PB  United Kingdom
>> Tel: +44 (0) 330 135 2480  Fax: +44 (0)1392 885681
>> Email: stuart@metoffice.gov.uk  Website: www.metoffice.gov.uk 
>> See our guide to climate change at 
>> http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate-change/guide/
>> 
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Re: [arts-dev] ARTS scattering database interfaces

2019-08-16 Thread Oliver Lemke
Hi Robin,

We removed the link to the ftp server from the webpage once the database was 
published on Zenodo.

Our FTP server contains the same version as Zenodo anyway:

ftp://ftp-projects.cen.uni-hamburg.de/arts/ArtsScatDbase/

Once there are updates available which are not published on Zenodo, we can of 
course put the link back.

Cheers,
Oliver


> On 16 Aug 2019, at 10:57, Robin Nils Ekelund  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Stuart,
> 
> Thanks for your input and sorry for the late reply, just got back to the 
> office. 
> 
> As Jana  mentioned, most of us use the Matlab interface, hence we haven't 
> detected this specific issue so far.
> 
> Apart from the Zenodo repository, we have one on a ftp-server in Hamburg. I 
> just checked the ARTS website and found that it's not linked anywhere yet. 
> Currently it doesn't matter, because there's is currently no newer version 
> than the Zenodo one yet anyway.
> 
> I'll have a look at your changes Stuart and make sure that those are 
> available in a new version, accessible from the ARTS homepage. I'm no Python 
> expert, but I have others I can consult.
> 
> Best regards,
> Robin Ekelund
> PhD Student   
> Department of Space, Earth and Environment
> +46(0)31 772 17 66
> robin.ekel...@chalmers.se
>  
> Chalmers University of Technology
> Hörsalsvägen 9/11
> SE-412 96 Göteborg, Sweden
> www.chalmers.se
> 
> 
> 
> From: arts_dev.mi-boun...@mailman.rrz.uni-hamburg.de 
>  on behalf of Jana Mendrok 
> 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 12:44 PM
> To: arts_dev.mi@lists.uni-hamburg.de
> Cc: Fox, Stuart
> Subject: Re: [arts-dev] ARTS scattering database interfaces
>  
> Hi Stuart,
> 
> I guess, it's me to blame here. I did some testing, but obviously not 
> exhaustive (enough) ;)
> Maybe it went unnoticed since there is a also matlab version of this, and 
> maybe everyone who applied the method so far has used matlab. (at least 
> Patrick. Who surely used the interpolation routine. But very likely in 
> matlab.)
> 
> Back when we developed this, we had an internal repository, which likely 
> still exists, but I don't think there is a semi-public one like for ARTS and 
> other ARTS-related tools. Yet. Could be a good thing to have, but that's up 
> to Patrick and /or Stefan to decide and initiate.
> Would likely be good, if your changes are at least put into the internal 
> repository. But I have to leave that to others of the ARTS-DB project group.
> 
> Best wishes,
> Jana
> 
> On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 11:10 AM Fox, Stuart  
> wrote:
> Hi developers,
>  
> I’ve been trying to use the Python assp methods (downloaded from the Zenodo 
> link) to work with some single scattering data. Specifically, I have been 
> trying to use assp.assp_interp_size to interpolate some optical properties 
> onto a common size grid. However, there seems to be a number of bugs and 
> typos in the code which mean that it doesn’t run.
>  
> I think I’ve fixed the code so that it “works” (attached). However, I’m 
> curious to know if anyone has actually used this method before, and if there 
> are any potential pitfalls I should be aware of? Is there a repository 
> anywhere for the database interfaces for up-to-date versions etc?
>  
> I also had to make some changes to typhon to get things running – see 
> https://github.com/atmtools/typhon/pull/308
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Stuart
>  
> Dr Stuart Fox  Radiation Research Manager
> Met Office FitzRoy Road  Exeter  Devon  EX1 3PB  United Kingdom
> Tel: +44 (0) 330 135 2480  Fax: +44 (0)1392 885681
> Email: stuart@metoffice.gov.uk  Website: www.metoffice.gov.uk 
> See our guide to climate change at 
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Re: [arts-dev] ARTS scattering database interfaces

2019-08-16 Thread Robin Nils Ekelund
Hi Stuart,


Thanks for your input and sorry for the late reply, just got back to the office.


As Jana  mentioned, most of us use the Matlab interface, hence we haven't 
detected this specific issue so far.


Apart from the Zenodo repository, we have one on a ftp-server in Hamburg. I 
just checked the ARTS website and found that it's not linked anywhere yet. 
Currently it doesn't matter, because there's is currently no newer version than 
the Zenodo one yet anyway.


I'll have a look at your changes Stuart and make sure that those are available 
in a new version, accessible from the ARTS homepage. I'm no Python expert, but 
I have others I can consult.


Best regards,

Robin Ekelund
PhD Student
Department of Space, Earth and Environment
+46(0)31 772 17 66
robin.ekel...@chalmers.se

Chalmers University of Technology
Hörsalsvägen 9/11
SE-412 96 Göteborg, Sweden
www.chalmers.se




From: arts_dev.mi-boun...@mailman.rrz.uni-hamburg.de 
 on behalf of Jana Mendrok 

Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 12:44 PM
To: arts_dev.mi@lists.uni-hamburg.de
Cc: Fox, Stuart
Subject: Re: [arts-dev] ARTS scattering database interfaces

Hi Stuart,

I guess, it's me to blame here. I did some testing, but obviously not 
exhaustive (enough) ;)
Maybe it went unnoticed since there is a also matlab version of this, and maybe 
everyone who applied the method so far has used matlab. (at least Patrick. Who 
surely used the interpolation routine. But very likely in matlab.)

Back when we developed this, we had an internal repository, which likely still 
exists, but I don't think there is a semi-public one like for ARTS and other 
ARTS-related tools. Yet. Could be a good thing to have, but that's up to 
Patrick and /or Stefan to decide and initiate.
Would likely be good, if your changes are at least put into the internal 
repository. But I have to leave that to others of the ARTS-DB project group.

Best wishes,
Jana

On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 11:10 AM Fox, Stuart 
mailto:stuart@metoffice.gov.uk>> wrote:
Hi developers,

I’ve been trying to use the Python assp methods (downloaded from the Zenodo 
link) to work with some single scattering data. Specifically, I have been 
trying to use assp.assp_interp_size to interpolate some optical properties onto 
a common size grid. However, there seems to be a number of bugs and typos in 
the code which mean that it doesn’t run.

I think I’ve fixed the code so that it “works” (attached). However, I’m curious 
to know if anyone has actually used this method before, and if there are any 
potential pitfalls I should be aware of? Is there a repository anywhere for the 
database interfaces for up-to-date versions etc?

I also had to make some changes to typhon to get things running – see 
https://github.com/atmtools/typhon/pull/308

Cheers,

Stuart

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Met Office FitzRoy Road  Exeter  Devon  EX1 3PB  United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 330 135 2480  Fax: +44 (0)1392 885681
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Re: [arts-dev] ARTS scattering database interfaces

2019-08-14 Thread Jana Mendrok
Hi Stuart,

I guess, it's me to blame here. I did some testing, but obviously not
exhaustive (enough) ;)
Maybe it went unnoticed since there is a also matlab version of this, and
maybe everyone who applied the method so far has used matlab. (at least
Patrick. Who surely used the interpolation routine. But very likely in
matlab.)

Back when we developed this, we had an internal repository, which likely
still exists, but I don't think there is a semi-public one like for ARTS
and other ARTS-related tools. Yet. Could be a good thing to have, but
that's up to Patrick and /or Stefan to decide and initiate.
Would likely be good, if your changes are at least put into the internal
repository. But I have to leave that to others of the ARTS-DB project group.

Best wishes,
Jana

On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 11:10 AM Fox, Stuart 
wrote:

> Hi developers,
>
>
>
> I’ve been trying to use the Python assp methods (downloaded from the
> Zenodo link) to work with some single scattering data. Specifically, I have
> been trying to use assp.assp_interp_size to interpolate some optical
> properties onto a common size grid. However, there seems to be a number of
> bugs and typos in the code which mean that it doesn’t run.
>
>
>
> I think I’ve fixed the code so that it “works” (attached). However, I’m
> curious to know if anyone has actually used this method before, and if
> there are any potential pitfalls I should be aware of? Is there a
> repository anywhere for the database interfaces for up-to-date versions etc?
>
>
>
> I also had to make some changes to typhon to get things running – see
> https://github.com/atmtools/typhon/pull/308
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Stuart
>
>
>
> Dr Stuart Fox  Radiation Research Manager
>
> *Met Office* FitzRoy Road  Exeter  Devon  EX1 3PB  United Kingdom
> Tel: +44 (0) 330 135 2480  Fax: +44 (0)1392 885681
> Email: stuart@metoffice.gov.uk  Website: www.metoffice.gov.uk
> See our guide to climate change at
> http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate-change/guide/
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