Re: [asdf-devel] standard io syntax woes

2013-02-26 Thread Faré
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:18 AM, Attila Lendvai attila.lend...@gmail.com wrote: Or I could rely on SBCL being used a whole lot and indeed having immutable such default syntax tables with understandable messages to blame whoever tries to mutate those tables without rebinding them this approach

Re: [asdf-devel] standard io syntax woes

2013-02-25 Thread Attila Lendvai
Or I could rely on SBCL being used a whole lot and indeed having immutable such default syntax tables with understandable messages to blame whoever tries to mutate those tables without rebinding them this approach seems to be the most straightforward to me. especially since we have that great

Re: [asdf-devel] standard io syntax woes

2013-02-22 Thread Faré
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll juanjose.garciarip...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 11:18 PM, Faré fah...@gmail.com wrote: Implementations that make the standard readtable read-only: allegro sbcl Implementations that don't: abcl ccl clisp cmucl ecl

Re: [asdf-devel] standard io syntax woes

2013-02-21 Thread Raymond Toy
Fare == Far Far writes: Fare For the record, checking on my machine today: Fare Implementations that make the standard readtable read-only: Fare allegro sbcl Fare Implementations that don't: Fare abcl ccl clisp cmucl ecl lispworks scl FWIW, on cmucl, *readtable* is a copy

Re: [asdf-devel] standard io syntax woes

2013-02-21 Thread Raymond Toy
Fare == Far Far writes: Fare On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Raymond Toy toy.raym...@gmail.com wrote: Fare == Far Far writes: Fare For the record, checking on my machine today: Fare Implementations that make the standard readtable read-only: Fare allegro sbcl

Re: [asdf-devel] standard io syntax woes

2013-02-21 Thread Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 11:18 PM, Faré fah...@gmail.com wrote: Implementations that make the standard readtable read-only: allegro sbcl Implementations that don't: abcl ccl clisp cmucl ecl lispworks scl This is not true (with-standard-io-syntax (set-dispatch-macro-character #\! #\Y

[asdf-devel] standard io syntax woes

2013-02-20 Thread Faré
Dear Common Lisp hackers, Inspecting with Anton Vodonosov the latest batch of cl-test-grid issues when running with asdf 2.29.x, we found an interesting case that mirrors the previous failure of iolib 0.7.3 with 2.29. In the hope of making the semantics of asd files more deterministic, with an

Re: [asdf-devel] standard io syntax woes

2013-02-20 Thread Anton Vodonosov
21.02.2013, 00:45, Faré fah...@gmail.com: Or I could remove the with-standard-io-syntax altogether, and say yes, if you're doing any global modification, you suck and you're going to break something for someone, but that's none of my business. Anton leans for the latter. I meant not that