Re: [Assam] Beef eating; Much ado over nothing

2006-06-20 Thread Rajib Das
Whoa... The "other" religions do disavow their dogmas. Even when dogma is presented in kinder light as a word of God, it still is dogma being fudged. They fudge, disavow, act indignant and do all sorts of stupid things. Much like the beef thing with, as you say, "hinduttva" types. I guess I did

Re: [Assam] Beef eating; Much ado over nothing

2006-06-20 Thread Ram Sarangapani
>When Hindu intellectuals are at a When Hindu intellectuals are at >a loss in defining their faith, their core values ( obviously because>there are none) they cite Radhakrishnan, proclaiming theirs is NOT >a 'religion', that it is a 'way-of-life'. What in the heck is this way >of life , that attemp

Re: [Assam] Beef eating; Much ado over nothing

2006-06-20 Thread Rajen & Ajanta Barua
AM Subject: Re: [Assam] Beef eating; Much ado over nothing We visited Bali, Indonesia in 1995 (Our honeymoon).  Bali is about 98% Hindu and the people have been Hindu for last 2000 years.    Interestingly, the Hindus in Bali eat beef.  Although other animals are offered to the God

Re: [Assam] Beef eating; Much ado over nothing

2006-06-20 Thread Chan Mahanta
You did not read what I wrote Rajib. The 'other' religions do not disavow their tenets, their core beliefs or even dogmas. But the Hinduttwallas attempt to peddle theirs, packaged as something they are not. When Hindu intellectuals are at a loss in defining their faith, their core values ( obvi

Re: [Assam] Beef eating; Much ado over nothing

2006-06-20 Thread Rajib Das
My point, C-da, was vis-a-vis your statement I have cut out for my response. Maybe you were carried away a bit by the sound of your own rhetoric :-) As to your points about Hindus claiming to be dogma free etc., I more than concur with you. But to claim the others accept their dogmas is being ridi

Re: [Assam] Beef eating; Much ado over nothing

2006-06-20 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: [Assam] Beef eating; Much ado over nothing Hi Ram: You got it all wrong. It has nothing to do with BASHING Hinduism or Hindus, but everything to do with challenging them to be what they are more than capable of. But there-in lies the problem: Hindus' cavalier, even fake, feal

Re: [Assam] Beef eating; Much ado over nothing

2006-06-20 Thread Ram Sarangapani
C'da   >who attempt to imply that Hinduism is FREE of>dogmas, rules, tenets, and the best of all:FAITH!   Any names? Lets bring it out in the open. And while doing so, lets also try to bring out the some of the blatant bashers of Hinduism. :-):-).   All most of us are asking is if there is a need t

Re: [Assam] Beef eating; Much ado over nothing

2006-06-20 Thread Chan Mahanta
At 2:14 PM -0700 6/20/06, Rajib Das wrote: > > disappear. Besides, >> the others at least don't try to insult anyone's >> intelligence by >> claiming they have none. >> > >That is a first *** Yes indeed! Because It is the Hinduttwa promoters, some right here in Assamnet, who attempt to i

Re: [Assam] Beef eating; Much ado over nothing

2006-06-20 Thread Rajib Das
> disappear. Besides, > the others at least don't try to insult anyone's > intelligence by > claiming they have none. > That is a first From whatever I have heard and read about, their dogmas take the shape of the infallible word of God. And they have gone on to blind, torture and kill all

Re: [Assam] Beef eating; Much ado over nothing

2006-06-20 Thread Alpana B. Sarangapani
Hi C'da:   >BTW, citing others' dogmas don't make Hinduism's disappear. Besides, the others at least don't >try to insult anyone's intelligence by claiming they have none.   Exactly was my point too.   That's why we are arguing when Barua talked about (see his quotes below, in case you forgot!) R

Re: [Assam] Beef eating; Much ado over nothing

2006-06-20 Thread Ram Sarangapani
>BTW, citing others' dogmas don't make Hinduism's disappear. >Besides, the others at least don't try to insult anyone's >intelligence by claiming they have none.   Really, C'da? Thats news to me. The very reason I got into the fray was because some (few) netters are always gung-ho on bashing Hindui

Re: [Assam] Beef eating; Much ado over nothing

2006-06-20 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: [Assam] Beef eating; Much ado over nothing >But telling farmers not to eat beef with a golden goose theory may not have had >much effect. But if the intellectuals  did encounch this as "God's will", >people would pay heed. *** Really Ram :-)? I would vent

Re: [Assam] Beef eating; Much ado over nothing

2006-06-20 Thread Malabika Brahma
We visited Bali, Indonesia in 1995 (Our honeymoon).  Bali is about 98% Hindu and the people have been Hindu for last 2000 years.    Interestingly, the Hindus in Bali eat beef.  Although other animals are offered to the God in Balinese version of Hinduism, beef or cow is not offered to God.   T

Re: [Assam] Beef eating; Much ado over nothing

2006-06-20 Thread Ram Sarangapani
C'da,   >That is why I was curious about Mohan's explanation that ">"But >from a certain point in time we don't eat Beef." and how that jives >with Hinduism not having any dogmas.   The reason, from what I have read in the past and that which seems most plausible, is that beef-eating by Hindus stop

Re: [Assam] Beef eating; Much ado over nothing

2006-06-20 Thread Chan Mahanta
>Sure, C'da. You and Barua could make all the rules, but then it has >to >ultimately be followed by the masses, don't you think? :-) *** Hammurabi I ain't Ram. Not into rule making or law-giving. In fact I am quite the opposite. I would just as soon tear those laws and rules that rob people of

Re: [Assam] Beef eating; Much ado over nothing

2006-06-20 Thread Ram Sarangapani
I think Mohan's response seems to be the one that makes a lot of sense. (BTW: Welcome Mohan to the net)   C'da, I think the 'Hinduism is a way of life' idea was popularized by Dr. S. Radhakrishnan in his book '  A Hindu View of Life'   >"Does it therefore mean that one can make one's own RULES or >

Re: [Assam] Beef eating; Much ado over nothing

2006-06-20 Thread Chan Mahanta
Hi Mohan: Good to hear from you. Would you mind introducing yourself to Assam Netters? Just one question: *** I have heard this "Hinduism is not a religion, it is a way-of-life" explanation a lot in recent years. Never could understand what it means. Oh I do understand the part that it has no

[Assam] Beef eating; Much ado over nothing

2006-06-20 Thread Mohan R. Palleti
Perhaps we should be more receptive to the idea that religion is more like somebody elses philosophy. And maybe ancient religious books were a compilations of observations expressed with whatever little scientific knowledge and vocabulary we had and yearned into a story. Hinduism is first of all n