[Assam] Rajya Sabha approves bill for amendment to Citizenship Act
Wahid-da In your article you have mentioned three incidents of Denied entry to India which you mentioned were due to confusion with OCI Visa. Except for the case of Dr. Pandit, none of the other two cases involve OCI. In case of Viraj and Vrishabh, one of the brother had a Indian Visitor Visa and the other had a PIO Card and their parents forgot to carry those. The second case , that of 12 year old , was similar. Her mother forgot to carry her passport that had the Visitor Visa. Combining PIO and OCI is not going to solve the problem if people forget to carry the Visa and/or card. No Country , including Netherland I would assume, will allow someone to enter without Visa unless there is a Visa on arrival or Visa Waiver treaty. India does not have any such treaty with US or any of the European countries. Regards Krishnendu From: assam-requ...@assamnet.org assam-requ...@assamnet.org To: assam@assamnet.org Sent: Friday, December 6, 2013 1:30 AM Subject: assam Digest, Vol 101, Issue 3 - Forwarded Message - Send assam mailing list submissions to assam@assamnet.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to assam-requ...@assamnet.org You can reach the person managing the list at assam-ow...@assamnet.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of assam digest... Today's Topics: 1. Rajya Sabha approves bill for amendment to Citizenship Act (Wahid Saleh - Indiawijzer) One of the news items of today is that the Rajya Sabha approves bill for amendment to Citizenship Act. I was in contact with the ministry on this subject. July 2005 to December 2013 is a ling time to follow an issue. But at long last all these years of correspondence with Delhi and The Hague is crowned with success. Rajya Sabha approves bill for amendment to Citizenship Act http://tinyurl.com/q89tdgf . This approval for amendment is the result of different representations and proposal submitted by the Diaspora community to the GOI. During this process, to obtain clarification of the OCI in relation to the Dutch nationality where possible, the Indian Diaspora in the Netherlands interacted with the Dutch government. Several times they interacted with the Minister, the Secretary and Joint-Secretary of MOIA on different Diaspora related issues. Please check the following link for extra information: The transition of PIO http://tinyurl.com/ob3vc2y OCI to OIC (Overseas Indian Cardholder). Wahid ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Rajya Sabha approves bill for amendment to Citizenship Act
WK, Congrats on your efforts bearing fruit. What do you know about the status of PIO card holders? It is primarily a long term visa, isn't it? I don't believe it becomes an OIC automatically. Am I right? Also what is a PAN number? How does one obtain that? c On Dec 5, 2013, at 4:46 PM, Wahid Saleh - Indiawijzer w.sa...@indiawijzer.nl wrote: One of the news items of today is that the Rajya Sabha approves bill for amendment to Citizenship Act. I was in contact with the ministry on this subject. July 2005 to December 2013 is a ling time to follow an issue. But at long last all these years of correspondence with Delhi and The Hague is crowned with success. Rajya Sabha approves bill for amendment to Citizenship Act http://tinyurl.com/q89tdgf . This approval for amendment is the result of different representations and proposal submitted by the Diaspora community to the GOI. During this process, to obtain clarification of the OCI in relation to the Dutch nationality where possible, the Indian Diaspora in the Netherlands interacted with the Dutch government. Several times they interacted with the Minister, the Secretary and Joint-Secretary of MOIA on different Diaspora related issues. Please check the following link for extra information: The transition of PIO http://tinyurl.com/ob3vc2y OCI to OIC (Overseas Indian Cardholder). Wahid ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Rajya Sabha approves bill for amendment to Citizenship Act
One more point .. You have cited the case of EU -- how they allow travel based on EU Card. These are done of reciprocal basis. An Indian citizen can travel to Nepal just based on an Identity Card (like a Driving License or Voter Identify Card) and the same is true for a Nepali citizen travelling to India. An Indian citizen cannot travel to a EU country or to US without a valid visa . So the same applies when a EU or US Citizen travels to India. From: Krishnendu Chakraborty krish_...@yahoo.com To: assam@assamnet.org assam@assamnet.org Sent: Friday, December 6, 2013 10:04 AM Subject: Rajya Sabha approves bill for amendment to Citizenship Act Wahid-da In your article you have mentioned three incidents of Denied entry to India which you mentioned were due to confusion with OCI Visa. Except for the case of Dr. Pandit, none of the other two cases involve OCI. In case of Viraj and Vrishabh, one of the brother had a Indian Visitor Visa and the other had a PIO Card and their parents forgot to carry those. The second case , that of 12 year old , was similar. Her mother forgot to carry her passport that had the Visitor Visa. Combining PIO and OCI is not going to solve the problem if people forget to carry the Visa and/or card. No Country , including Netherland I would assume, will allow someone to enter without Visa unless there is a Visa on arrival or Visa Waiver treaty. India does not have any such treaty with US or any of the European countries. Regards Krishnendu From: assam-requ...@assamnet.org assam-requ...@assamnet.org To: assam@assamnet.org Sent: Friday, December 6, 2013 1:30 AM Subject: assam Digest, Vol 101, Issue 3 - Forwarded Message - Send assam mailing list submissions to assam@assamnet.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to assam-requ...@assamnet.org You can reach the person managing the list at assam-ow...@assamnet.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of assam digest... Today's Topics: 1. Rajya Sabha approves bill for amendment to Citizenship Act (Wahid Saleh - Indiawijzer) One of the news items of today is that the Rajya Sabha approves bill for amendment to Citizenship Act. I was in contact with the ministry on this subject. July 2005 to December 2013 is a ling time to follow an issue. But at long last all these years of correspondence with Delhi and The Hague is crowned with success. Rajya Sabha approves bill for amendment to Citizenship Act http://tinyurl.com/q89tdgf . This approval for amendment is the result of different representations and proposal submitted by the Diaspora community to the GOI. During this process, to obtain clarification of the OCI in relation to the Dutch nationality where possible, the Indian Diaspora in the Netherlands interacted with the Dutch government. Several times they interacted with the Minister, the Secretary and Joint-Secretary of MOIA on different Diaspora related issues. Please check the following link for extra information: The transition of PIO http://tinyurl.com/ob3vc2y OCI to OIC (Overseas Indian Cardholder). Wahid ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Rajya Sabha approves bill for amendment to Citizenship Act
Dear Sondon. Did not hear or came across any post from you for a long time! For that matter Ram and Alpana are also following your example. Yes indeed I had to wait for a long time. But at long last I was there. It is what the Chinese say You won't help the new plants grow by pulling them up higher. The bilateral agreement on social security between the Netherlands and India also took almost seven years. But it is now in its place. I hope and wish that one day my efforts in getting funds transferred for philanthropy without a FCRA will also bear fruit. Here also I have to follow the Chinese saying It is impossible to add much weight with a single morsel; it is hard to travel afar with a single step. It is difficulty to get fellow travellers. 1. Now about your question regarding PIO card: Yes it is a long term visa valid for 15 years and then you have to renew it. You get the information directly from MHA at http://mha.nic.in/pioscheme 2. OCI is a different category. It is a life long visa and has a few extra's. It is meant only for those who had Indian passport and renounced their citizenship by obtaining another nationality. A foreign national married to an OCI card holder can also get a PIO card. Pls check the following link: http://mha1.nic.in/pdfs/oci-chart.pdf 3. As for PAN number it is only of interest if you are interested in money. Check: http://incometaxindia.gov.in/archive/About%20PAN_06302010.pdf Hope I have answerd your questions: Next month I shall be attedning the PBD 2014. From there I shall go to Ahmedabad to attedn an award function. After that I shall visit Assam for a week. Greetings WK -Original Message- From: Chan Mahanta [mailto:cmaha...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 06-12-2013 16:06 To: w.sa...@indiawijzer.nl; A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world Cc: Chan Mahanta Subject: Re: [Assam] Rajya Sabha approves bill for amendment to Citizenship Act WK, Congrats on your efforts bearing fruit. What do you know about the status of PIO card holders? It is primarily a long term visa, isn't it? I don't believe it becomes an OIC automatically. Am I right? Also what is a PAN number? How does one obtain that? c On Dec 5, 2013, at 4:46 PM, Wahid Saleh - Indiawijzer w.sa...@indiawijzer.nl wrote: One of the news items of today is that the Rajya Sabha approves bill for amendment to Citizenship Act. I was in contact with the ministry on this subject. July 2005 to December 2013 is a ling time to follow an issue. But at long last all these years of correspondence with Delhi and The Hague is crowned with success. Rajya Sabha approves bill for amendment to Citizenship Act http://tinyurl.com/q89tdgf . This approval for amendment is the result of different representations and proposal submitted by the Diaspora community to the GOI. During this process, to obtain clarification of the OCI in relation to the Dutch nationality where possible, the Indian Diaspora in the Netherlands interacted with the Dutch government. Several times they interacted with the Minister, the Secretary and Joint-Secretary of MOIA on different Diaspora related issues. Please check the following link for extra information: The transition of PIO http://tinyurl.com/ob3vc2y OCI to OIC (Overseas Indian Cardholder). Wahid ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
