Re: [Assam] 'Bhut jolokia is world's hottest chi lli'

2007-06-19 Thread Chan Mahanta
It IS the same Mridul. I wasn't sure either. As children what we used 
to call bhwt-jolokiya was a mild round one, looks like a leteku, 
except green  that turns deep purplish red when ripe.  Only early 
this year I found out that 'bih jolkiya' is also called 'bhwt 
jolokiya'.


BTW, what Kamal wrote, that it is also called 'kordoi xiria jolokiya' 
is quite an appropriate name, since the ' Bor-bih jolokiya' do have 
four irregular ridges. The lota bih's ridges are not as marked.


There are TWO types of 'bih jolokiya': Bor bih and Lota bih.  The 
former is about 2 long and 1 to 1.5 across, while the Lota bih is 
about the same in length but only 1/2 to 3/4 across.  The Lota bih 
plant grows very wide at the top, branching out like a creeper, thus 
the name. Both are ungodly hot, except the Bor bih, I think is 
hotter.  Only the 'khud  (or kon ) jolokiya' can come anywhere near 
the two in their fieriness.














At 9:53 PM -0700 6/18/07, Mridul Bhuyan wrote:
'Bhwt jolokia' or 'Bih jolokia' (known as Bih jolokia in Upper 
Assam, I am not sure if both are same), this is one of my 
favourites. I make it a point to bring a jarfull of the same while 
comming back from Assam. In Shivaxagar, it costs about 50 paise for 
one jolokia. I made some Delhites to taste it. In their subsequent 
visit, they are afraid even to touch the jar.:)


Mridul Bhuyan

Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Buisa Komol, tumi tinisukiya hobo para, pise' bih jolokiya 'bhut ba 
bhoot  jolokiya' nohoy. Oxomiya obhdhaanotw iyak 'bhwt jolokiya' 
buliyei paba,  WITH a 'murdhonyo to' as Priyankoo explained.


My guess would be that the Bhutiyas like it too, or they grow them. 
Yes, the Nagas are the biggest consumers of this almost poisonous 
chili pepper. In fact, when I was at Namti in January, a local young 
man wanted to show me his 'bhwt jolokiya' plantation. I wanted to 
go, but had  no time. I asked WHO buys them, he said they go to 
Nagaland.

















At 7:09 PM -0500 6/18/07, kamal deka wrote:

I am a Tinsukian in every sense of the meaning and very 
well-conversant with the language,including local dialects.Could 
anyone explain to me why these chillies are stratified as  bih 
jolokia,although they are certainly not poisonous? In my considered 
opinion,they are classified as bhoot jolokia perhaps because of 
this fact:---herou bih jolokia nekhabi,khale bhoot dekhi jabi 
bapeke.The name could very well be derived from the bhot tribe,but 
in day-to- day conversation,it appears to have a different 
connotation.Could it be possible that they are so- called in order 
to indicate the 'hotness' of these chillies rather than pointing 
towards the ' tribe' in question? It could be figurative rather 
than literal.





BTW,these are also called ' kordoixira jolokia' and 'Noga jolokia' 
by some locals.But,in my view,these two varieties are a bit 
different from bhot/bhoot/bih jolokia.




Regards,

KJD



On 6/18/07, Priyankoo 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:


I am from Tinsukia district, born and brought up there, never heard 
of bhoot jolokiya, though. It is true some people pronounce the o 
as u, but that does not make a ghost out of a tribe name, as far 
as the meaning is concerned.


It also does not justify the poor homework, on part of the correspondent!

best,
Priyankoo



kamal deka mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In Ujoni Oxom ( in and around Tinsukia district ) ,the ' jolokias' 
in question are called ' bhoot jolokia or ' bih jolokia '.The name ' 
bhot jolokia' is perhaps unheard of in that part of the world.




In Namoni Oxom ( Kamrup district in particular ), the chillies,in 
general, are called ' bhijlook'.




KJD



On 6/17/07, Pradip Kumar Datta 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:


'Bhut jolokia is world's hottest chilli'
THE VICTOR, THE VANQUISHED
New Delhi, June 17: They are as tez as they come. The bhut jolokia 
or 'ghost chillies' of Tezpur figure in the Time Magazine's latest 
issue as the world's hottest chilli.
The magazine's cover story that takes a look at the culinary 
specialities and peculiarities around the world has zeroed in on the 
burnt orange pods, developed in a military laboratory in Tezpur, as 
packing the deadliest punch.
The article 'Global Warming' notes that the bhut jolokia, also 
called the Naga chilli, carries the sort of heat that one normally 
would find only in the hottest chilli sauces made from pure pepper 
extract.
Chilli heat is measured in Scoville Heat Units (SHUs), and while 
pure capsaicin, the main capsaicinoid in a chilli, measures 16 
million SHUs, the ghost chilli measures just over one million SHUs. 
(PTI)



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Re: [Assam] 'Bhut jolokia is world's hottest chi lli'

2007-06-18 Thread Chan Mahanta

The problem of transliteration here is what is causing the confusion.

The name in Upper Assam is 'bhwt jolokiya' or more commonly 'bih 
jolokiya'.  I like the sound of

' bhijlook';  its cute :-).

But for some ignoramus of a reporter making it 'bhoot jolokiya' or 
'ghost chilli' is taking literal translation too far.
















At 2:31 PM -0500 6/18/07, kamal deka wrote:
In Ujoni Oxom ( in and around Tinsukia district ) ,the ' jolokias' 
in question are called ' bhoot jolokia or ' bih jolokia '.The name ' 
bhot jolokia' is perhaps unheard of in that part of the world.


In Namoni Oxom ( Kamrup district in particular ), the chillies,in 
general, are called ' bhijlook'.


KJD


On 6/17/07, Pradip Kumar Datta 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


'Bhut jolokia is world's hottest chilli'
THE VICTOR, THE VANQUISHED
New Delhi, June 17: They are as tez as they come. The bhut jolokia 
or 'ghost chillies' of Tezpur figure in the Time Magazine's latest 
issue as the world's hottest chilli.
The magazine's cover story that takes a look at the culinary 
specialities and peculiarities around the world has zeroed in on the 
burnt orange pods, developed in a military laboratory in Tezpur, as 
packing the deadliest punch.
The article 'Global Warming' notes that the bhut jolokia, also 
called the Naga chilli, carries the sort of heat that one normally 
would find only in the hottest chilli sauces made from pure pepper 
extract.
Chilli heat is measured in Scoville Heat Units (SHUs), and while 
pure capsaicin, the main capsaicinoid in a chilli, measures 16 
million SHUs, the ghost chilli measures just over one million SHUs. 
(PTI)



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Re: [Assam] 'Bhut jolokia is world's hottest chi lli'

2007-06-18 Thread Chan Mahanta
Buisa Komol, tumi tinisukiya hobo para, pise' bih jolokiya 'bhut ba 
bhoot  jolokiya' nohoy. Oxomiya obhdhaanotw iyak 'bhwt jolokiya' 
buliyei paba,  WITH a 'murdhonyo to' as Priyankoo explained.


My guess would be that the Bhutiyas like it too, or they grow them. 
Yes, the Nagas are the biggest consumers of this almost poisonous 
chili pepper. In fact, when I was at Namti in January, a local young 
man wanted to show me his 'bhwt jolokiya' plantation. I wanted to go, 
but had  no time. I asked WHO buys them, he said they go to  Nagaland.

















At 7:09 PM -0500 6/18/07, kamal deka wrote:
I am a Tinsukian in every sense of the meaning and very 
well-conversant with the language,including local dialects.Could 
anyone explain to me why these chillies are stratified as  bih 
jolokia,although they are certainly not poisonous? In my considered 
opinion,they are classified as bhoot jolokia perhaps because of this 
fact:---herou bih jolokia nekhabi,khale bhoot dekhi jabi bapeke.The 
name could very well be derived from the bhot tribe,but in day-to- 
day conversation,it appears to have a different connotation.Could it 
be possible that they are so- called in order to indicate the 
'hotness' of these chillies rather than pointing towards the 
' tribe' in question? It could be figurative rather than literal.


BTW,these are also called ' kordoixira jolokia' and 'Noga jolokia' 
by some locals.But,in my view,these two varieties are a bit 
different from bhot/bhoot/bih jolokia.


Regards,
KJD


On 6/18/07, Priyankoo 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:


I am from Tinsukia district, born and brought up there, never heard 
of bhoot jolokiya, though. It is true some people pronounce the o 
as u, but that does not make a ghost out of a tribe name, as far 
as the meaning is concerned.


It also does not justify the poor homework, on part of the correspondent!

best,
Priyankoo


kamal deka mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In Ujoni Oxom ( in and around Tinsukia district ) ,the ' jolokias' 
in question are called ' bhoot jolokia or ' bih jolokia '.The name ' 
bhot jolokia' is perhaps unheard of in that part of the world.


In Namoni Oxom ( Kamrup district in particular ), the chillies,in 
general, are called ' bhijlook'.


KJD


On 6/17/07, Pradip Kumar Datta 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:


'Bhut jolokia is world's hottest chilli'
THE VICTOR, THE VANQUISHED
New Delhi, June 17: They are as tez as they come. The bhut jolokia 
or 'ghost chillies' of Tezpur figure in the Time Magazine's latest 
issue as the world's hottest chilli.
The magazine's cover story that takes a look at the culinary 
specialities and peculiarities around the world has zeroed in on the 
burnt orange pods, developed in a military laboratory in Tezpur, as 
packing the deadliest punch.
The article 'Global Warming' notes that the bhut jolokia, also 
called the Naga chilli, carries the sort of heat that one normally 
would find only in the hottest chilli sauces made from pure pepper 
extract.
Chilli heat is measured in Scoville Heat Units (SHUs), and while 
pure capsaicin, the main capsaicinoid in a chilli, measures 16 
million SHUs, the ghost chilli measures just over one million SHUs. 
(PTI)


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Re: [Assam] 'Bhut jolokia is world's hottest chi lli'

2007-06-18 Thread kamal deka

I have already mentioned about ' figurative language' and ' literal meaning'
in my previous mail.This should have resolved the moot point.BTW,does Hem
kosh obhidhan have any referrence to bhwt jolokiya?

KJD


On 6/18/07, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Buisa Komol, tumi tinisukiya hobo para, pise' bih jolokiya 'bhut ba
bhoot  jolokiya' nohoy. Oxomiya obhdhaanotw iyak 'bhwt jolokiya'  buliyei
paba,  WITH a 'murdhonyo to' as Priyankoo explained.


My guess would be that the Bhutiyas like it too, or they grow them. Yes,
the Nagas are the biggest consumers of this almost poisonous chili pepper.
In fact, when I was at Namti in January, a local young man wanted to show me
his 'bhwt jolokiya' plantation. I wanted to go, but had  no time. I asked
WHO buys them, he said they go to  Nagaland.
































At 7:09 PM -0500 6/18/07, kamal deka wrote:

I am a Tinsukian in every sense of the meaning and very well-conversant
with the language,including local dialects.Could anyone explain to me why
these chillies are stratified as  bih jolokia,although they are certainly
not poisonous? In my considered opinion,they are classified as bhoot jolokia
perhaps because of this fact:---herou bih jolokia nekhabi,khale bhoot dekhi
jabi bapeke.The name could very well be derived from the bhot tribe,but in
day-to- day conversation,it appears to have a different connotation.Couldit be 
possible that they are so- called in order to indicate the 'hotness'
of these chillies rather than pointing towards the ' tribe' in question? It
could be figurative rather than literal.



BTW,these are also called ' kordoixira jolokia' and 'Noga jolokia' by some
locals.But,in my view,these two varieties are a bit different from
bhot/bhoot/bih jolokia.



Regards,

KJD



On 6/18/07,* Priyankoo* [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

I am from Tinsukia district, born and brought up there, never heard of
bhoot jolokiya, though. It is true some people pronounce the o as u, but
that does not make a ghost out of a tribe name, as far as the meaning is
concerned.

It also does not justify the poor homework, on part of the correspondent!

best,
Priyankoo



*kamal deka [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]** wrote:

In Ujoni Oxom ( in and around Tinsukia district ) ,the ' jolokias' in
question are called ' bhoot jolokia or ' bih jolokia '.The name ' bhot
jolokia' is perhaps unheard of in that part of the world.



In Namoni Oxom ( Kamrup district in particular ), the chillies,in
general, are called ' bhijlook'.



KJD



On 6/17/07,* Pradip Kumar Datta* [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

*'Bhut jolokia is world's hottest chilli'
*THE VICTOR, THE VANQUISHED*
*New Delhi, June 17: They are as tez as they come. The bhut jolokia or
'ghost chillies' of Tezpur figure in the Time Magazine's latest issue as the
world's hottest chilli.
The magazine's cover story that takes a look at the culinary specialities
and peculiarities around the world has zeroed in on the burnt orange pods,
developed in a military laboratory in Tezpur, as packing the deadliest
punch.
The article 'Global Warming' notes that the bhut jolokia, also called the
Naga chilli, carries the sort of heat that one normally would find only in
the hottest chilli sauces made from pure pepper extract.
Chilli heat is measured in Scoville Heat Units (SHUs), and while pure
capsaicin, the main capsaicinoid in a chilli, measures 16 million SHUs, the
ghost chilli measures just over one million SHUs. (PTI)

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Re: [Assam] 'Bhut jolokia is world's hottest chi lli'

2007-06-18 Thread Chan Mahanta
I haven't checked Hem Kwsh, but it certainly is featured in the more 
modern and comprehensive

AAdhunik Oxomiya Xobdokwsh compiled by Sumanta Chaliha.









At 9:13 PM -0500 6/18/07, kamal deka wrote:
I have already mentioned about ' figurative language' and ' literal 
meaning' in my previous mail.This should have resolved the moot 
point.BTW,does Hem kosh obhidhan have any referrence to bhwt 
jolokiya?


KJD


On 6/18/07, Chan Mahanta 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:


Buisa Komol, tumi tinisukiya hobo para, pise' bih jolokiya 'bhut ba 
bhoot  jolokiya' nohoy. Oxomiya obhdhaanotw iyak 'bhwt jolokiya' 
buliyei paba,  WITH a 'murdhonyo to' as Priyankoo explained.



My guess would be that the Bhutiyas like it too, or they grow them. 
Yes, the Nagas are the biggest consumers of this almost poisonous 
chili pepper. In fact, when I was at Namti in January, a local young 
man wanted to show me his 'bhwt jolokiya' plantation. I wanted to 
go, but had  no time. I asked WHO buys them, he said they go to 
Nagaland.

































At 7:09 PM -0500 6/18/07, kamal deka wrote:

I am a Tinsukian in every sense of the meaning and very 
well-conversant with the language,including local dialects.Could 
anyone explain to me why these chillies are stratified as  bih 
jolokia,although they are certainly not poisonous? In my considered 
opinion,they are classified as bhoot jolokia perhaps because of 
this fact:---herou bih jolokia nekhabi,khale bhoot dekhi jabi 
bapeke.The name could very well be derived from the bhot tribe,but 
in day-to- day conversation,it appears to have a different 
connotation.Could it be possible that they are so- called in order 
to indicate the 'hotness' of these chillies rather than pointing 
towards the ' tribe' in question? It could be figurative rather 
than literal.





BTW,these are also called ' kordoixira jolokia' and 'Noga jolokia' 
by some locals.But,in my view,these two varieties are a bit 
different from bhot/bhoot/bih jolokia.




Regards,

KJD



On 6/18/07, Priyankoo 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:


I am from Tinsukia district, born and brought up there, never heard 
of bhoot jolokiya, though. It is true some people pronounce the o 
as u, but that does not make a ghost out of a tribe name, as far 
as the meaning is concerned.


It also does not justify the poor homework, on part of the correspondent!

best,
Priyankoo



kamal deka mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In Ujoni Oxom ( in and around Tinsukia district ) ,the ' jolokias' 
in question are called ' bhoot jolokia or ' bih jolokia '.The name ' 
bhot jolokia' is perhaps unheard of in that part of the world.




In Namoni Oxom ( Kamrup district in particular ), the chillies,in 
general, are called ' bhijlook'.




KJD



On 6/17/07, Pradip Kumar Datta 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:


'Bhut jolokia is world's hottest chilli'
THE VICTOR, THE VANQUISHED
New Delhi, June 17: They are as tez as they come. The bhut jolokia 
or 'ghost chillies' of Tezpur figure in the Time Magazine's latest 
issue as the world's hottest chilli.
The magazine's cover story that takes a look at the culinary 
specialities and peculiarities around the world has zeroed in on the 
burnt orange pods, developed in a military laboratory in Tezpur, as 
packing the deadliest punch.
The article 'Global Warming' notes that the bhut jolokia, also 
called the Naga chilli, carries the sort of heat that one normally 
would find only in the hottest chilli sauces made from pure pepper 
extract.
Chilli heat is measured in Scoville Heat Units (SHUs), and while 
pure capsaicin, the main capsaicinoid in a chilli, measures 16 
million SHUs, the ghost chilli measures just over one million SHUs. 
(PTI)



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Re: [Assam] 'Bhut jolokia is world's hottest chi lli'

2007-06-18 Thread Mridul Bhuyan
'Bhwt jolokia' or 'Bih jolokia' (known as Bih jolokia in Upper Assam, I am not 
sure if both are same), this is one of my favourites. I make it a point to 
bring a jarfull of the same while comming back from Assam. In Shivaxagar, it 
costs about 50 paise for one jolokia. I made some Delhites to taste it. In 
their subsequent visit, they are afraid even to touch the jar.:)
   
  Mridul Bhuyan

Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Buisa Komol, tumi tinisukiya hobo para, pise' bih jolokiya 'bhut ba 
bhoot  jolokiya' nohoy. Oxomiya obhdhaanotw iyak 'bhwt jolokiya'  buliyei paba, 
 WITH a 'murdhonyo to' as Priyankoo explained.
  

  My guess would be that the Bhutiyas like it too, or they grow them. Yes, the 
Nagas are the biggest consumers of this almost poisonous chili pepper. In fact, 
when I was at Namti in January, a local young man wanted to show me his 'bhwt 
jolokiya' plantation. I wanted to go, but had  no time. I asked WHO buys them, 
he said they go to  Nagaland.
  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  At 7:09 PM -0500 6/18/07, kamal deka wrote:
  I am a Tinsukian in every sense of the meaning and very well-conversant with 
the language,including local dialects.Could anyone explain to me why these 
chillies are stratified as  bih jolokia,although they are certainly not 
poisonous? In my considered opinion,they are classified as bhoot jolokia 
perhaps because of this fact:---herou bih jolokia nekhabi,khale bhoot dekhi 
jabi bapeke.The name could very well be derived from the bhot tribe,but in 
day-to- day conversation,it appears to have a different connotation.Could it be 
possible that they are so- called in order to indicate the 'hotness' of these 
chillies rather than pointing towards the ' tribe' in question? It could be 
figurative rather than literal. BTW,these are also called ' kordoixira 
jolokia' and 'Noga jolokia' by some locals.But,in my view,these two varieties 
are a bit different from bhot/bhoot/bih jolokia. Regards,  KJD

   On 6/18/07, Priyankoo [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  I am from Tinsukia district, born and brought up there, never heard of bhoot 
jolokiya, though. It is true some people pronounce the o as u, but that 
does not make a ghost out of a tribe name, as far as the meaning is concerned.

It also does not justify the poor homework, on part of the correspondent!

best,
Priyankoo  

kamal deka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  In Ujoni Oxom ( in and around Tinsukia district ) ,the ' jolokias' in 
question are called ' bhoot jolokia or ' bih jolokia '.The name ' bhot jolokia' 
is perhaps unheard of in that part of the world. In Namoni Oxom ( Kamrup 
district in particular ), the chillies,in general, are called ' bhijlook'. 
KJD

   On 6/17/07, Pradip Kumar Datta [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  'Bhut jolokia is world's hottest chilli'
THE VICTOR, THE VANQUISHED
New Delhi, June 17: They are as tez as they come. The bhut jolokia or 'ghost 
chillies' of Tezpur figure in the Time Magazine's latest issue as the world's 
hottest chilli.
The magazine's cover story that takes a look at the culinary specialities and 
peculiarities around the world has zeroed in on the burnt orange pods, 
developed in a military laboratory in Tezpur, as packing the deadliest punch.
The article 'Global Warming' notes that the bhut jolokia, also called the Naga 
chilli, carries the sort of heat that one normally would find only in the 
hottest chilli sauces made from pure pepper extract.
Chilli heat is measured in Scoville Heat Units (SHUs), and while pure 
capsaicin, the main capsaicinoid in a chilli, measures 16 million SHUs, the 
ghost chilli measures just over one million SHUs. (PTI)
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