Re: [Assam] IAF to recruit IITians - HT
At 7:37 AM +0530 5/14/06, mc mahant wrote: IAF Ought to recruit IITians as Planes/systems Redesigners-not drivers. *** Exactly right! So too what a waste if IITians and IIMians end up as call station attendants/website designers! mm ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] IAF to recruit IITians - HT
Well, it not just 'drivers' but also in engineering and designers that they would recruit. The Indian Army has an Engineering Corps and so does the Navy. --Ram On 5/14/06, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 7:37 AM +0530 5/14/06, mc mahant wrote:IAF Ought to recruit IITians as Planes/systems Redesigners-not drivers. *** Exactly right!So too what a waste if IITians and IIMians end up as call stationattendants/website designers!mm ___assam mailing listassam@assamnet.orghttp://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] IAF to recruit IITians - HT
Title: Re: [Assam] IAF to recruit IITians - HT At 8:35 AM -0500 5/14/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: Well, it not just 'drivers' but also in engineering and designers that they would recruit. The Indian Army has an Engineering Corps and so does the Navy. *** Come now Ram! Are you serious? Indian Army or Navy or Air Force making USE of engineering skills and abilities? I have good friends in all three of those branches. And I know a lot about the state affairs. They don't need HIGH SKILLS. They need skills to use what they have. --Ram On 5/14/06, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 7:37 AM +0530 5/14/06, mc mahant wrote: IAF Ought to recruit IITians as Planes/systems Redesigners-not drivers. *** Exactly right! So too what a waste if IITians and IIMians end up as call station attendants/website designers! mm ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] IAF to recruit IITians - HT
OK, you object to the use of word 'driver'. But think deeper than that-ask what Hi-Tech India has done to stop the sudden- death of 70 odd MIG jets. And the banker PM wringing his hands in despair!Maybe more task forces without demand of results! Delhi does not know after 59 years --where to start.And all IIM'S wanting' No OBC'reservations.As if---. I am available! mm From:"Ram Sarangapani" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:"Chan Mahanta" [EMAIL PROTECTED]CC:"mc mahant" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], assam@assamnet.orgSubject:Re: [Assam] IAF to recruit IITians - HTDate:Sun, 14 May 2006 08:35:13 -0500 Well, it not just 'drivers' but also in engineering and designers that they would recruit. The Indian Army has an Engineering Corps and so does the Navy. --Ram On 5/14/06, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 7:37 AM +0530 5/14/06, mc mahant wrote:IAF Ought to recruit IITians as Planes/systems Redesigners-not drivers. *** Exactly right!So too what a waste if IITians and IIMians end up as call stationattendants/website designers!mm ___assam mailing listassam@assamnet.orghttp://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] IAF to recruit IITians - HT
C'da, I have good friends in all three of those branches. And I know a lot about the state affairs. They don't need HIGH SKILLS. They need skills to use what they have. hehehe - you must be talking about them days of yore :-) Things are a tad different these days. I have read some reports from Jane's Defenseanalyses(one of the best Defense info sources in the world) which has all praises for India' military and sophistication. You must be mistaking the Indian military for the B team they usually send to fight militants in Assam :-) --Ram On 5/14/06, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 8:35 AM -0500 5/14/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: Well, it not just 'drivers' but also in engineering and designers that they would recruit. The Indian Army has an Engineering Corps and so does the Navy. *** Come now Ram! Are you serious? Indian Army or Navy or Air Force making USE of engineering skills and abilities? I have good friends in all three of those branches. And I know a lot about the state affairs. They don't need HIGH SKILLS. They need skills to use what they have. --Ram On 5/14/06, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 7:37 AM +0530 5/14/06, mc mahant wrote:IAF Ought to recruit IITians as Planes/systems Redesigners-not drivers.*** Exactly right!So too what a waste if IITians and IIMians end up as call station attendants/website designers!mm___assam mailing list assam@assamnet.orghttp://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] IAF to recruit IITians - HT
Title: Re: [Assam] IAF to recruit IITians - HT Since when has the absence of a coup become the measure of a military's abilities, efficiency or expertise, Ram? At 9:51 AM -0500 5/14/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: C'da, Unfortunately they usually get a blank check, to squander scarce resources, at the cost of the general public, purportedly for defending them from them enemies. For a moment I thought you were talking about the US Defense Dept. Jane's Defense Weekly (out of England) does a pretty good job - and is critical when they see fit and necessary. The inherent weaknesses you talk about exists probably in all military institutions, but to say that theIndian military just doesn't possess tech skills or that it can get by without it (as they are not sophisticated) tantamounts to ignoring reality. The Indian military'snever had a coup (and can never have one). If its so disorganized and politicized as you say it is, India would have had at least 4 or 5 coups in the last 50+ years. Can you tell us why there has never been a military coup in India despite all the problems in governance that you often state exists in India? --Ram On 5/14/06, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, if Jane's says so, that must be the last word, right? But think again Ram. It is also all very RELATIVE. Compared to who? Indian armed forces are just poorly managed -- dysfunctional, as any other Indian undertaking. They have many excellent people. But they all will tell you the same story: Poor management and NO management, corruption, ineptitude, political interference, nepotism and cronyism are only some of the high-points. Nothing unique actually. All militaries suffer from that. Unfortunately they usually get a blank check, to squander scarce resources, at the cost of the general public, purportedly for defending them from them enemies. But WHO are those enemies of India? Aren't they MANUFACTURED ones? Most of them being their own? At 9:05 AM -0500 5/14/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: C'da, I have good friends in all three of those branches. And I know a lot about the state affairs. They don't need HIGH SKILLS. They need skills to use what they have. hehehe - you must be talking about them days of yore :-) Things are a tad different these days. I have read some reports from Jane's Defenseanalyses(one of the best Defense info sources in the world) which has all praises for India' military and sophistication. You must be mistaking the Indian military for the B team they usually send to fight militants in Assam :-) --Ram On 5/14/06, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 8:35 AM -0500 5/14/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: Well, it not just 'drivers' but also in engineering and designers that they would recruit. The Indian Army has an Engineering Corps and so does the Navy. *** Come now Ram! Are you serious? Indian Army or Navy or Air Force making USE of engineering skills and abilities? I have good friends in all three of those branches. And I know a lot about the state affairs. They don't need HIGH SKILLS. They need skills to use what they have. --Ram On 5/14/06, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 7:37 AM +0530 5/14/06, mc mahant wrote: IAF Ought to recruit IITians as Planes/systems Redesigners-not drivers. *** Exactly right! So too what a waste if IITians and IIMians end up as call station attendants/website designers! mm ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] IAF to recruit IITians - HT
Since when has the absence of a coup become the measure of a military's abilities, efficiency or expertise, Ram? It really doesn't C'da. But what you painted about the inefficiencies in the military, the GOI, mal-governance, corruption at all levels, politicians meddling, total lack of expertise in any field, and top it off with an inefficient govt. which has no clue where its heading - thats seems to be perfect fertile ground for some errant general to take over the country. So, if one were to subscribe to the above doom gloom scenario, a logical question is why hasn't there been a coup? Something must be going right - is it that the military is well-managed, or is it the Govt. or it is something else? Just wondering. --Ram On 5/14/06, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since when has the absence of a coup become the measure of a military's abilities, efficiency or expertise, Ram? At 9:51 AM -0500 5/14/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: C'da, Unfortunately they usually get a blank check, to squander scarce resources, at the cost of the general public, purportedly for defending them from them enemies. For a moment I thought you were talking about the US Defense Dept. Jane's Defense Weekly (out of England) does a pretty good job - and is critical when they see fit and necessary. The inherent weaknesses you talk about exists probably in all military institutions, but to say that theIndian military just doesn't possess tech skills or that it can get by without it (as they are not sophisticated) tantamounts to ignoring reality. The Indian military'snever had a coup (and can never have one). If its so disorganized and politicized as you say it is, India would have had at least 4 or 5 coups in the last 50+ years. Can you tell us why there has never been a military coup in India despite all the problems in governance that you often state exists in India? --Ram On 5/14/06, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, if Jane's says so, that must be the last word, right? But think again Ram. It is also all very RELATIVE. Compared to who? Indian armed forces are just poorly managed -- dysfunctional, as any other Indian undertaking. They have many excellent people. But they all will tell you the same story: Poor management and NO management, corruption, ineptitude, political interference, nepotism and cronyism are only some of the high-points. Nothing unique actually. All militaries suffer from that. Unfortunately they usually get a blank check, to squander scarce resources, at the cost of the general public, purportedly for defending them from them enemies. But WHO are those enemies of India? Aren't they MANUFACTURED ones? Most of them being their own? At 9:05 AM -0500 5/14/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: C'da, I have good friends in all three of those branches. And I know a lot about the state affairs. They don't need HIGH SKILLS. They need skills to use what they have. hehehe - you must be talking about them days of yore :-) Things are a tad different these days. I have read some reports from Jane's Defenseanalyses(one of the best Defense info sources in the world) which has all praises for India' military and sophistication. You must be mistaking the Indian military for the B team they usually send to fight militants in Assam :-) --Ram On 5/14/06, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 8:35 AM -0500 5/14/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: Well, it not just 'drivers' but also in engineering and designers that they would recruit. The Indian Army has an Engineering Corps and so does the Navy. *** Come now Ram! Are you serious? Indian Army or Navy or Air Force making USE of engineering skills and abilities? I have good friends in all three of those branches. And I know a lot about the state affairs. They don't need HIGH SKILLS. They need skills to use what they have. --Ram On 5/14/06, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 7:37 AM +0530 5/14/06, mc mahant wrote:IAF Ought to recruit IITians as Planes/systems Redesigners-not drivers.*** Exactly right!So too what a waste if IITians and IIMians end up as call station attendants/website designers!mm___assam mailing list assam@assamnet.orghttp://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] IAF to recruit IITians - HT
or is it the Govt. or it is something else? That something else is what British did: Scatter all Corps with officers from Tamil+Punjab+Maharashtra or such a combination. Post '47 it was continued.So Jat Regiment may have only 1 Jat. Such that they cannot and will not dare to unite and revolt. The system is routine for postings. mm From:"Ram Sarangapani" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:"Chan Mahanta" [EMAIL PROTECTED]CC:"mc mahant" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], assam@assamnet.orgSubject:Re: [Assam] IAF to recruit IITians - HTDate:Sun, 14 May 2006 11:03:08 -0500 Since when has the absence of a coup become the measure of a military's abilities, efficiency or expertise, Ram? It really doesn't C'da. But what you painted about the inefficiencies in the military, the GOI, mal-governance, corruption at all levels, politicians meddling, total lack of expertise in any field, and top it off with an inefficient govt. which has no clue where its heading - thats seems to be perfect fertile ground for some errant general to take over the country. So, if one were to subscribe to the above doom gloom scenario, a logical question is why hasn't there been a coup? Something must be going right - is it that the military is well-managed, or is it the Govt. or it is something else? Just wondering. --Ram On 5/14/06, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since when has the absence of a coup become the measure of a military's abilities, efficiency or expertise, Ram? At 9:51 AM -0500 5/14/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: C'da, Unfortunately they usually get a blank check, to squander scarce resources, at the cost of the general public, purportedly for defending them from them enemies. For a moment I thought you were talking about the US Defense Dept. Jane's Defense Weekly (out of England) does a pretty good job - and is critical when they see fit and necessary. The inherent weaknesses you talk about exists probably in all military institutions, but to say that theIndian military just doesn't possess tech skills or that it can get by without it (as they are not sophisticated) tantamounts to ignoring reality. The Indian military'snever had a coup (and can never have one). If its so disorganized and politicized as you say it is, India would have had at least 4 or 5 coups in the last 50+ years. Can you tell us why there has never been a military coup in India despite all the problems in governance that you often state exists in India? --Ram On 5/14/06, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, if Jane's says so, that must be the last word, right? But think again Ram. It is also all very RELATIVE. Compared to who? Indian armed forces are just poorly managed -- dysfunctional, as any other Indian undertaking. They have many excellent people. But they all will tell you the same story: Poor management and NO management, corruption, ineptitude, political interference, nepotism and cronyism are only some of the high-points. Nothing unique actually. All militaries suffer from that. Unfortunately they usually get a blank check, to squander scarce resources, at the cost of the general public, purportedly for defending them from them enemies. But WHO are those enemies of India? Aren't they MANUFACTURED ones? Most of them being their own? At 9:05 AM -0500 5/14/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: C'da, I have good friends in all three of those branches. And I know a lot about the state affairs. They don't need HIGH SKILLS. They need skills to use what they have. hehehe - you must be talking about them days of yore :-) Things are a tad different these days. I have read some reports from Jane's Defenseanalyses(one of the best Defense info sources in the world) which has all praises for India' military and sophistication. You must be mistaking the Indian military for the B team they usually send to fight militants in Assam :-) --Ram On 5/14/06, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 8:35 AM -0500 5/14/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: Well, it not just 'drivers' but also in engineering and designers that they would recruit. The Indian Army has an Engineering Corps and so does the Navy. *** Come now Ram! Are you serious? Indian Army or Navy or Air Force making USE of engineering skills and abilities? I have good friends in all three of those branches. And I know a lot about the state affairs. They don't need HIGH SKILLS. They need skills to use what they have. --Ram On 5/14/06, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 7:37 AM +0530 5/14/06, mc mahant wrote:IAF Ought to recruit IITians as Planes/systems Redesigners-not drivers.*** Exactly right!So too what a waste if IITians and IIMians end up as call station attendants/website designers!mm___assam mailing list assam@assamnet.orghttp://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] IAF to recruit IITians - HT
Congrats Umesh for the best summary . Looks like things are going only that way. When Sonia visited Assam for Election appearance, she whispered something --and prompty Tarun blurted out to TV; "It is now clear that in 5 years we will not need Army to be stationed in Assam" But how,what,where will they go? Disbanded? Privatized? Sent as Merceneries? Allowed to go fight with Naxalites? Manufacture Arms/tools/ammo/rocket producers in commercial military-industrial complexes in the now hotly hyped Special Economic Zones? While Delhi will just close their eyes /ears and merely demand Sales tax and VAT and hope to live happily ever after? mm From:umesh sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To:Ram Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED]CC:[EMAIL PROTECTED], assam@assamnet.orgSubject:Re: [Assam] IAF to recruit IITians - HTDate:Sun, 14 May 2006 22:59:48 +0100 (BST) Maybe they should hand over the military management toi some MNC like McKinsey! Umesh PS: Indian military is like an excellent driver with an old battered van to compete in Salt Lake Grand Prix - good human resources --no money to buy weapons etcRam Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since when has the absence of a coup become the measure of a military's abilities, efficiency or expertise, Ram? It really doesn't C'da. But what you painted about the inefficiencies in the military, the GOI, mal-governance, corruption at all levels, politicians meddling, total lack of expertise in any field, and top it off with an inefficient govt. which has no clue where its heading - thats seems to be perfect fertile ground for some errant general to take over the country. So, if one were to subscribe to the above doom gloom scenario, a logical question is why hasn't there been a coup? Something must be going right - is it that the military is well-managed, or is it the Govt. or it is something else? Just wondering. --Ram On 5/14/06, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since when has the absence of a coup become the measure of a military's abilities, efficiency or expertise, Ram? At 9:51 AM -0500 5/14/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: C'da, Unfortunately they usually get a blank check, to squander scarce resources, at the cost of the general public, purportedly for defending them from them enemies. For a moment I thought you were talking about the US Defense Dept. Jane's Defense Weekly (out of England) does a pretty good job - and is critical when they see fit and necessary. The inherent weaknesses you talk about exists probably in all military institutions, but to say that theIndian military just doesn't possess tech skills or that it can get by without it (as they are not sophisticated) tantamounts to ignoring reality. The Indian military'snever had a coup (and can never have one). If its so disorganized and politicized as you say it is, India would have had at least 4 or 5 coups in the last 50+ years. Can you tell us why there has never been a military coup in India despite all the problems in governance that you often state exists in India? --Ram On 5/14/06, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, if Jane's says so, that must be the last word, right? But think again Ram. It is also all very RELATIVE. Compared to who? Indian armed forces are just poorly managed -- dysfunctional, as any other Indian undertaking. They have many excellent people. But they all will tell you the same story: Poor management and NO management, corruption, ineptitude, political interference, nepotism and cronyism are only some of the high-points. Nothing unique actually. All militaries suffer from that. Unfortunately they usually get a blank check, to squander scarce resources, at the cost of the general public, purportedly for defending them from them enemies. But WHO are those enemies of India? Aren't they MANUFACTURED ones? Most of them being their own? At 9:05 AM -0500 5/14/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: C'da, I have good friends in all three of those branches. And I know a lot about the state affairs. They don't need HIGH SKILLS. They need skills to use what they have. hehehe - you must be talking about them days of yore :-) Things are a tad different these days. I have read some reports from Jane's Defenseanalyses(one of the best Defense info sources in the world) which has all praises for India' military and sophistication. You must be mistaking the Indian military for the B team they usually send to fight militants in Assam :-) --Ram On 5/14/06, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 8:35 AM -0500 5/14/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: Well, it not just 'drivers' but also in engineering and designers that they would recruit. The Indian Army has an Engineering Corps and so does the Navy. *** Come now Ram! Are you serious? Indian Army or Navy or Air Force making USE of engineering skills and abilities? I have good friends in all three of those branches. And I know a lot about the state affairs.
Re: [Assam] IAF to recruit IITians - HT
Mukul-da,If India does not need so many soldiers there many options -- the famous "Golden Handshake " is one. Pre-mature retirement (VRS - Volutary Retirement from service) on half pay in the prime of youth . Many would opt out .Anyway the sepoys/private are retired by the time their youth starts dwindling - in mid-thirties. Only a few make it to Sargents and in officers the retirement age is 40 -- only a few become Colonel or higher. So the rest come out - and do find increasingly better jobs --esp in school education these days--as principals, administratorsand librarians atleast.Regards.Umeshmc mahant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Congrats Umesh for the best summary . Looks like things are going only that way. When Sonia visited Assam for Election appearance, she whispered something --and prompty Tarun blurted out to TV; "It is now clear that in 5 years we will not need Army to be stationed in Assam" But how,what,where will they go? Disbanded? Privatized? Sent as Merceneries? Allowed to go fight with Naxalites? Manufacture Arms/tools/ammo/rocket producers in commercial military-industrial complexes in the now hotly hyped Special Economic Zones? While Delhi will just close their eyes /ears and merely demand Sales tax and VAT and hope to live happily ever after? mm From:umesh sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To:Ram Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED]CC:[EMAIL PROTECTED], assam@assamnet.orgSubject:Re: [Assam] IAF to recruit IITians - HTDate:Sun, 14 May 2006 22:59:48 +0100 (BST)Maybe they should hand over the military management toi some MNC like McKinsey! Umesh PS: Indian military is like an excellent driver with an old battered van to compete in Salt Lake Grand Prix - good human resources --no money to buy weapons etcRam Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since when has the absence of a coup become the measure of a military's abilities,efficiency or expertise, Ram? It really doesn't C'da. But what you painted about the inefficiencies in the military, the GOI, mal-governance, corruption at all levels, politicians meddling, total lack of expertise in any field, and top it off with an inefficient govt. which has no clue where its heading - thats seems to be perfect fertile ground for some errant general to take over the country. So, if one were to subscribe to the above doom gloom scenario, a logical question is why hasn't there been a coup? Something must be going right - is it that the military is well-managed, or is it the Govt. or it is something else? Just wondering. --Ram On 5/14/06, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Since when has the absence of a coup become the measure of a military's abilities, efficiency or expertise, Ram? At 9:51 AM -0500 5/14/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: C'da, Unfortunately they usually get a blank check, to squander scarce resources, at the cost of the general public, purportedly for defending them from them enemies. For a moment I thought you were talking about the US Defense Dept. Jane's Defense Weekly (out of England) does a pretty good job - and is critical when they see fit and necessary. The inherent weaknesses you talk about exists probably in all military institutions, but to say that theIndian military just doesn't possess tech skills or that it can get by without it (as they are not sophisticated) tantamounts to ignoring reality. The Indian military'snever had a coup (and can never have one). If its so disorganized and politicized as you say it is, India would have had at least 4 or 5 coups in the last 50+ years. Can you tell us why there has never been a military coup in India despite all the problems in governance that you often state exists in India? --Ram On 5/14/06, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, if Jane's says so, that must be the last word, right? But think again Ram. It is also all very RELATIVE. Compared to who? Indian armed forces are just poorly managed -- dysfunctional, as any other Indian undertaking. They have many excellent people. But they all will tell you the same story: Poor management and NO management, corruption, ineptitude, political interference, nepotism and cronyism are only some of the high-points. Nothing unique actually. All militaries suffer from that. Unfortunately they usually get a blank check, to squander scarce resources, at the cost of the general public, purportedly for defending them from them enemies. But WHO are those enemies of India? Aren't they MANUFACTURED ones? Most of them being their own? At 9:05 AM -0500 5/14/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: C'da, I have good friends in all three of those branches. And I know a lot about the state affairs. They don't need HIGH SKILLS. They need skills to use what they have. hehehe - you
Re: [Assam] IAF to recruit IITians - HT
IAF Ought to recruit IITiansas Planes/systems Redesigners-not drivers. So too what a waste if IITians and IIMians end up as call station attendants/website designers! mm From:Ram Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:assam@assamnet.orgSubject:[Assam] IAF to recruit IITians - HTDate:Sat, 13 May 2006 13:52:45 -0700 (PDT) This from the Hindustan Times. I think this is a good move. The other branches of the Indian military should also recruit from not just IITs but also from the IIMs and other exclusive centers of learning. --Ram The Indian Air Force believes that IITians would make good fighter pilots and could fill in for its 600-odd vacancies. It feels that if IITians could be engineers, they are good enough to pilot its fighter jets.Indian Air Force officials will soon be touring campuses to conduct a summer induction-cum-training programme. While this exercise would familiarise students with a career with the IAF, the force wants to reach out to prospective pilots and engineers, telling them that engineering and flying could be parallel skills, sources said. Defence Ministry spokesperson in Kolkata, Wing Commander RK Das, said, "IAF is approaching IITs as a part of its outreach programme, elaborating on the lucrative nature of an IAF pilot's job. Last month, we received a fairly good response in campus interviews at the IITs in Kharagpur, Delhi, Chennai, Mumbai, Guwahati and Kanpur." But in its eagerness to get IITians in the sky, the rules for recruitment will not be relaxed. Das said that despite the shortage of pilots, the IAF would not compromise on quality. The students will have to pass the strict physical and medical tests. "The first thing IAF would check is if an applicant has the aptitude to be a pilot because even with all the necessary qualifications, if one lacks the will to be a pilot and is just chasing a job, he would fail in leaving a mark," Das said.Wing Commander Das added that training would commence from January next year and eligible IITians would join the Short Service Commission, serving for around 10 years. A senior officer from the IAF career cell, Disha, said: "After the commission ends, they will be free to accept commercial offers. The advantage they will have is that they would be trained free for over one and a half years, which would cost around Rs 18 lakh in a commercial pilot training institute." Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. ___assam mailing listassam@assamnet.orghttp://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] IAF to recruit IITians - HT
Maybe IITians can be thrilled to accept short term positions -like USA's (?) Maybe as quick fortune seekers--join Mittal or join Bush: The 9/11 truth movement has gained enormous credibility and momentum in 2006. Help us build that momentum into a political force that will carry us to success. Let us reveal to all that 9/11 truth offers the greatest opportunity in modern history for courageous, ethical people to positively influence the future of humanity. In Chicago we will be offering an intensive weekend, to include workshops, presentations, strategy sessions and abundant opportunities for the growing 9/11 truth movement to come together. We are very pleased to announce our presenters, including William Pepper, Prof. Steven E. Jones, David Shayler Annie Machan, Alex Jones, Webster Tarpley, Peter Phillips, Ian Woods, Kevin Ryan, Dr. Faiz Khan, Jim Marrs, Barrie Zwicker, Jim Fetzer, David Kubiak, Ken Jenkins, Ralph Schoenman, Carol Brouillet, and Chris Emery, with many others (see the Speakers page for full info). Media coverage is planned by INN World Report, KPFA Berkeley, KPFK of Los Angeles, TVNewsLies.org and many others. Many more important luminaries, authors, researchers, organizers and media activists can be expected. The full conference Program is now being finalized, to be posted at the Events Page shortly. Happy weekend ! mm From:umesh sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To:Ram Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED], assam@assamnet.orgSubject:Re: [Assam] IAF to recruit IITians - HTDate:Sat, 13 May 2006 22:24:19 +0100 (BST) First they should get their planes inorder --called "Flying Coffins" esp the Migs. Even retired Fighter Pilots do not want their sons(hardly any girls there) to follow in their footsteps. One of my students is right now training to become one - I pray for his safety --not from the enemy --but from the plane itself!!! Second, what is the likelihood that IITians who have been burning the midnight lamp would be up to the task. Do they have lightening fast reflexes needed to handle the planes. A few who do - I feel would be more eager to use them to get out of India -- like a super smart IIT-K Mech. grad did who was also the butterfly stroke distt. champ at Jaipur - winner of Silver medal as over all Best student at IIT-K -- landed at Carnegie Mellon for MBA and is here ever since. Maybe IITians can be thrilled to accept short term positions -like USA's (?) Umesh Ram Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This from the Hindustan Times. I think this is a good move. The other branches of the Indian military should also recruit from not just IITs but also from the IIMs and other exclusive centers of learning. --Ram The Indian Air Force believes that IITians would make good fighter pilots and could fill in for its 600-odd vacancies. It feels that if IITians could be engineers, they are good enough to pilot its fighter jets.Indian Air Force officials will soon be touring campuses to conduct a summer induction-cum-training programme. While this exercise would familiarise students with a career with the IAF, the force wants to reach out to prospective pilots and engineers, telling them that engineering and flying could be parallel skills, sources said. Defence Ministry spokesperson in Kolkata, Wing Commander RK Das, said, "IAF is approaching IITs as a part of its outreach programme, elaborating on the lucrative nature of an IAF pilot's job. Last month, we received a fairly good response in campus interviews at the IITs in Kharagpur, Delhi, Chennai, Mumbai, Guwahati and Kanpur." But in its eagerness to get IITians in the sky, the rules for recruitment will not be relaxed. Das said that despite the shortage of pilots, the IAF would not compromise on quality. The students will have to pass the strict physical and medical tests. "The first thing IAF would check is if an applicant has the aptitude to be a pilot because even with all the necessary qualifications, if one lacks the will to be a pilot and is just chasing a job, he would fail in leaving a mark," Das said.Wing Commander Das added that training would commence from January next year and eligible IITians would join the Short Service Commission, serving for around 10 years. A senior officer from the IAF career cell, Disha, said: "After the commission ends, they will be free to accept commercial offers. The advantage they will have is that they would be trained free for over one and a half years, which would cost around Rs 18 lakh in a commercial pilot training institute." Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates.___assam mailing listassam@assamnet.orghttp://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.orgUmesh Sharma5121 Lackawanna STCollege Park, MD 207401-202-215-4328 [Cell Phone]Ed.M. - International Education PolicyHarvard Graduate School of Education,Harvard University,Class of 2005weblog: http://jaipurschool.bihu.in/ Send
