Re: Advanced Assembler Language etc.

2015-01-22 Thread Tony Thigpen
John, Did you ever finish the text book? Tony Thigpen John R. Ehrman (408-463-3543 T/543-) wrote on 07/09/2009 02:00 PM: I'm writing an Assembler Language textbook, and hope to finish by the end of this year. John Ehrman (-- Referenced Note Follows )

Re: 8 character mnemonics

2015-01-22 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 4:28 AM, Sharuff Morsa3 sharuff_mo...@uk.ibm.com wrote: Ain't progress wonderful? Anyone know how to stop it ? (progress that is) I would not rule out 8 character mnemonics nor 8 character HLASM assembler directives (not that I'm currently planning any). Because

Re: 8 character mnemonics

2015-01-22 Thread Peter Relson
But are new mnemonics vetted against all member names in all maclibs of all IBM products? (Do significant ISVs count?) ISVs (and IBM products) are informed ahead of the general public of the new mnemonics; it is conceivable that a change/accommodation would be made if there were a good

Re: 8 character mnemonics

2015-01-22 Thread Sharuff Morsa3
Ain't progress wonderful? Anyone know how to stop it ? (progress that is) I would not rule out 8 character mnemonics nor 8 character HLASM assembler directives (not that I'm currently planning any). Because of the very large number of mnemonics and extended mnemonics which have been

Re: 8 character mnemonics

2015-01-22 Thread Richard Cebula
Having a quick scan of our SYS1.MACLIB - I've found only 2 clashes between the z/OS macros and the instructions mnemonics - CHI and DSG.

Re: 8 character mnemonics

2015-01-22 Thread Tony Thigpen
I don't have z/OS, I actually code assembler using: VM, VSE, and Dignus (to upload as objects to VSE). Dignus lets me use long macro names natively. And, I use it for most things, but one of my jobs requires me to assemble code for VSE using VM's assembler, so that is why I came up with the

Re: 8 character mnemonics

2015-01-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2015-01-22, at 06:54, Tony Thigpen wrote: I have used longer-than-8 macros for many years. Works great. I have one source macro that I include at the top of the member that is just 8 characters long. Inside, it has many macro 'redefs' so that I can use a long macro name in the code, but

Re: 8 character mnemonics

2015-01-22 Thread Abe Kornelis
John, I have various macros that use embedded macros. To avoid naming collisions I have always used more than 8 characters to name these macros. I can tell you: it has worked fine for me from day one. Kind regards, Abe Kornelis. == John Ehrman schreef op 21-1-2015 om 20:02: Dave

Re: Advanced Assembler Language etc.

2015-01-22 Thread Tony Thigpen
Yes, but he said he hoped to get it done by the end of 2009. He's had 5 extra years. :-) :-) Tony Thigpen Gary Weinhold wrote on 01/22/2015 01:09 PM: He would get it done, if he didn't have to answer all these pesky emails! Gary On 2015-01-22 12:47, Rich Smrcina wrote: Indeed! On Thu, Jan

Advanced Assembler Language etc.

2015-01-22 Thread John Ehrman
Tony Thigpen, Joey Capps, Rich Smrcina, and others have asked: Did you ever finish the text book? Yes, it's done (or at least, I've stopped adding to it) (for now). I've gotten permission to make it available, and am working on a convenient distribution mechanism. I'm hoping you'll be able to

Re: Advanced Assembler Language etc.

2015-01-22 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:01 PM, John Ehrman ehr...@us.ibm.com wrote: Tony Thigpen, Joey Capps, Rich Smrcina, and others have asked: Did you ever finish the text book? Yes, it's done (or at least, I've stopped adding to it) (for now). I've gotten permission to make it available, and am

Re: 8 character mnemonics

2015-01-22 Thread M. Ray Mullins
The HLASMTK SPMs have been doing this for years. Macros like IF are OPSYNed to ASM_IF, and the source for ASM_IF is in the copy member. -- M. Ray Mullins Roseville, CA, USA http://www.catherdersoftware.com/ http://www.z390.org/ German is essentially a form of assembly language consisting

Re: Advanced Assembler Language etc.

2015-01-22 Thread Gary Weinhold
He would get it done, if he didn't have to answer all these pesky emails! Gary On 2015-01-22 12:47, Rich Smrcina wrote: Indeed! On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Capps, Joey jca...@informatica.com wrote: I think there are probably a lot of us hoping to see this ! Joey -Original

Re: 8 character mnemonics

2015-01-22 Thread Ze'ev Atlas
    ​Lastly, it might be nice to have a program which can pseudo-compile a source program and not only flag machine instruction opcodes which exist as members in the SYSLIB concatenation, but would also create an IEBUPDTE control deck which puts a :MAC on the end of the opcode. The user could

Re: Advanced Assembler Language etc.

2015-01-22 Thread Capps, Joey
I think there are probably a lot of us hoping to see this ! Joey -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List [mailto:ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:14 AM To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Advanced

Re: Advanced Assembler Language etc.

2015-01-22 Thread Rich Smrcina
Indeed! On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Capps, Joey jca...@informatica.com wrote: I think there are probably a lot of us hoping to see this ! Joey -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List [mailto:ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent: