Re: IEATDUMP MF=L Can someone explain this?

2018-08-27 Thread Ngan, Robert
I'm so use to splitting the name after the 3rd character I did not even notice this, until one of our younger programmers pronounced it as "I EAT DUMP" Robert Ngan HCL Technologies -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List On Behalf Of Jim Mulder Sent: Sunday, August 26,

Re: IEATDUMP MF=L Can someone explain this?

2018-08-27 Thread Charles Mills
Bytes are cheap. (30-40 bytes anyway. ) Programmer time is expensive.  Bugs are very expensive.  I may just keep doing it the way I have been. CharlesSent from a mobile; please excuse the brevity. Original message From: Steve Smith Date: 8/27/18 12:04 PM (GMT-05:00) To:

Re: IEATDUMP MF=L Can someone explain this?

2018-08-27 Thread Steve Smith
Me too.  But remember, This is for NEW macros, the ones whose MF=E forms start with something like XC 88(,1),0(1), and use MF=(L,xxx). The older ones, that often have required data in the MF=L form, still have to be copied first.  Typically you would put those MF=L in static storage, and

Re: IEATDUMP MF=L Can someone explain this?

2018-08-27 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 8/27/2018 4:45 AM, Charles Mills wrote: Consider using the same list area for multiple services Is that documented anywhere? In other words, you are saying -- just to pick three macros that come to mind -- I could issue an ATTACHX, an EXTRACT and a CLOSE and use the same MF=L area for all

Re: IEATDUMP MF=L Can someone explain this?

2018-08-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2018-08-27, at 06:20:40, Peter Relson wrote: > >> I've never had the slightest need to use the labels generated in the > MF=L form. Who does? They're not documented. I'll grant that they can > probably be considered self-documenting, but is there a reasonable > guarantee the labels won't

Re: IEATDUMP MF=L Can someone explain this?

2018-08-27 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 27 Aug 2018 07:45:08 -0400, Charles Mills wrote: >> making sure that you have allotted the maximum that any of them could need > >How would I make sure of that (other than by "hacking" the macros or by >doing a test assembly)? MF_L_AREA DS 0D MACRO_1_L MACRO1 MF=L ORG MF_L_AREA

Re: IEATDUMP MF=L Can someone explain this?

2018-08-27 Thread Peter Relson
> I've never had the slightest need to use the labels generated in the MF=L form. Who does? They're not documented. I'll grant that they can probably be considered self-documenting, but is there a reasonable guarantee the labels won't be changed in a new release? The MF=E expansions don't

Re: IEATDUMP MF=L Can someone explain this?

2018-08-27 Thread Charles Mills
> Consider using the same list area for multiple services Is that documented anywhere? In other words, you are saying -- just to pick three macros that come to mind -- I could issue an ATTACHX, an EXTRACT and a CLOSE and use the same MF=L area for all (assuming the re-sue considerations you