Re: Basic question on Procesors/Instruction set

2019-03-23 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 21 Mar 2019 14:31:01 -0600 Paul Gilmartin <0014e0e4a59b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.uga.edu> wrote: :>On 2019-03-21, at 14:15:03, Tom Marchant wrote: :>> As others mentioned, a Specification exception means that the instruction is used incorrectly. :>> It does not mean that the machine d

Re: Basic question on Procesors/Instruction set

2019-03-22 Thread Charles Mills
Marchant Sent: Friday, March 22, 2019 5:44 AM To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Basic question on Procesors/Instruction set On Thu, 21 Mar 2019 14:31:01 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >What happens on an older model where a field is "reserved, must be zero" >i

Re: Basic question on Procesors/Instruction set

2019-03-22 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 21 Mar 2019 14:31:01 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >What happens on an older model where a field is "reserved, must be zero" >if the programmer supplies a non-zero value which would be valid on a >newer model? That depends upon whether the older model has the crystal ball feature installe

Re: Basic question on Procesors/Instruction set

2019-03-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2019-03-21, at 14:15:03, Tom Marchant wrote: > > As others mentioned, a Specification exception means that the instruction is > used incorrectly. > It does not mean that the machine does not support the instruction. > What happens on an older model where a field is "reserved, must be zero" i

Re: Basic question on Procesors/Instruction set

2019-03-21 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 21:42:03 +, Frank M. Ramaekers wrote: >Where does one find a table of instructions a particular processor is capable >of? In addition to other responses, another source of information is Jim Elliott's page: https://jlelliotton.blogspot.com/p/cmos-processor-table.html Ji

Re: Basic question on Procesors/Instruction set

2019-03-21 Thread Jonathan Scott
Ref: Your note of 20 March 2019, 18:13:26 -0700 Note that from APAR PH03536 (October 2018) HLASM now accepts additional MACHINE and OPTABLE options that provide an easier way to match up instruction sets with machines and compilers: OPTABLE MACHINE --- --- UNI (none) DOS (non

Re: Basic question on Procesors/Instruction set

2019-03-20 Thread Charles Mills
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List [mailto:ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 2:42 PM To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Basic question on Procesors/Instruction set Where does one find a table of instructions a parti

Re: Basic question on Procesors/Instruction set [EXTERNAL EMAIL]

2019-03-20 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
: IBM Mainframe Assembler List [mailto:ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 5:03 PM To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Basic question on Procesors/Instruction set [EXTERNAL EMAIL] PoOPS for SRST (edition -9, which is for

Re: Basic question on Procesors/Instruction set

2019-03-20 Thread Dan Greiner
As to how to determine whether an instruction is present on a processor, this is a REALLY deep subject that I will defer to a subsequent thread. As to whether SEARCH STRING (SRST) is available on a processor: As Mr. Weinhold correctly noted, you get an operation exception if an instruction is

Re: Basic question on Procesors/Instruction set

2019-03-20 Thread Christopher Y. Blaicher
Mainframe Assembler List [mailto:ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 5:42 PM To: MVS List Server 2 Subject: Basic question on Procesors/Instruction set Where does one find a table of instructions a particular processor is capable of? (I

Re: Basic question on Procesors/Instruction set

2019-03-20 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
MBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Basic question on Procesors/Instruction set EXTERNAL EMAIL Where does one find a table of instructions a particular processor is capable of? (I have a zBC12 and get a SPEC EXCEPT on a SRST/Search string) Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. | Mainframe Systems Analyst I | CIS

Re: Basic question on Procesors/Instruction set

2019-03-20 Thread Phil Smith III
Frank M. Ramaekers wrote: >Where does one find a table of instructions a particular processor is capable >of? I can't answer your question (though I suspect the answer is "You can't, trivially"), but it brings to mind a friend who was a sysprog back 35+ years ago, when the 4381 was new. His sh

Re: Basic question on Procesors/Instruction set

2019-03-20 Thread Gary Weinhold
It surely exists on your machine; it was available on our MP3000.  Others can better answer your specific question. If an instruction doesn't exist you get an operation exception. On 2019-03-20 5:42 p.m., Frank M. Ramaekers wrote: Where does one find a table of instructions a particular proce

Basic question on Procesors/Instruction set

2019-03-20 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
Where does one find a table of instructions a particular processor is capable of? (I have a zBC12 and get a SPEC EXCEPT on a SRST/Search string) Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. | Mainframe Systems Analyst I | CIS Mainframe Services Unisys | (512)-387-3949 | Francis.Ramaekers at Unisys.Com [unisys_logo