Re: Subject: RSECT vs CSECT

2022-12-21 Thread Seymour J Metz
@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Subject: RSECT vs CSECT > Is there any advantage to using RSECT over CSECT with PARM=RENT? One might say that there is advantage in having the definition within the source rather than relying on a build parameter to ask for the sort of checking you'd get. And, of cou

Re: Subject: RSECT vs CSECT

2022-12-21 Thread Peter Relson
> Is there any advantage to using RSECT over CSECT with PARM=RENT? One might say that there is advantage in having the definition within the source rather than relying on a build parameter to ask for the sort of checking you'd get. And, of course, RSECT vs CSECT is passed as information to the

Re: Subject: ASMA500 message question

2022-11-18 Thread Charles Mills
mbler List [mailto:ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Relson Sent: Friday, November 18, 2022 4:51 AM To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Subject: ASMA500 message question You ignore the message at your own risk. Unless your module is page-aligned and this is a page-aligned CS

Re: Subject: ASMA500 message question

2022-11-18 Thread Keith Moe
Nucleus. Keith Sent from an iPhone > On Nov 18, 2022, at 09:50, Peter Relson wrote: > > You ignore the message at your own risk. > > Unless your module is page-aligned and this is a page-aligned CSECT within > that module, you have no idea if the CSECT will land on a quadword (or >

Re: Subject: ASMA500 message question

2022-11-18 Thread Mike Shaw
On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 7:50 AM Peter Relson wrote: > > Why would you not want to use GOFF? I can think of only one module in all > of z/OS that cannot use GOFF. I'll let guesses occur before providing the > answer in a day or two. > > Fear of the unknown! I will try it. Mike S.

Re: Subject: ASMA500 message question

2022-11-18 Thread Peter Relson
You ignore the message at your own risk. Unless your module is page-aligned and this is a page-aligned CSECT within that module, you have no idea if the CSECT will land on a quadword (or stronger) boundary. And if you truly need quadword boundary and don't have it, things won't end well.

Re: Subject: MVCRL

2022-06-09 Thread Seymour J Metz
of Peter Relson [rel...@us.ibm.com] Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2022 8:47 AM To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Subject: MVCRL Why isn't there a Move Relative Long instruction The answer is likely because there is insufficient reason to have one, to justify the cost. Instructions

Re: Subject: MVCRL

2022-06-09 Thread Peter Relson
Why isn't there a Move Relative Long instruction The answer is likely because there is insufficient reason to have one, to justify the cost. Instructions are typically created when they solve a problem and, often, when they can be done faster if implemented in the machine than if done piece

Re: What is Capacity on Demand (was Assembler Digest subject line)

2016-07-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
I was not sure what you were asking about since you did not include a snippet of the discussion from the Digest. It helps if you could put a better subject on the thread and include some of the details from the Digest you are asking about. COD (Capacity on Demand) offers solutions

Re: Please use meaningful subject

2016-06-23 Thread David S.
Peter Hunkeler writes: I'd appreciate people responding to digest message would take a little care > of adding a meaningful subject. And include some snippets of the text > you're referring to. Indeed! It's a peeve of mine as well. I also appreciate people stripping irrelevant content

Re: Please use meaningful subject (was: ASSEMBLER-LIST Digest - 6 Jun 2016 to 20 Jun 2016 (#2016-62))

2016-06-22 Thread Rob van der Heij
pond to the individual post, > instead of > > trying to reply to the digest mail. Even when you modify the subject, > your > > response would not thread into the discussion for next day's digest, nor > > > Are messages are threaded by Subject or by In-Reply-to? I thi

Re: Please use meaningful subject (was: ASSEMBLER-LIST Digest - 6 Jun 2016 to 20 Jun 2016 (#2016-62))

2016-06-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2016-06-22, at 00:50, Rob van der Heij wrote: > > An interesting idea might be to sign up for the web interface at > listserv.uga.edu and use that to respond to the individual post, instead of > trying to reply to the digest mail. Even when you modify the subject, your >

Re: Please use meaningful subject (was: ASSEMBLER-LIST Digest - 6 Jun 2016 to 20 Jun 2016 (#2016-62))

2016-06-22 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 22 June 2016 at 08:07, Peter Hunkeler <p...@gmx.ch> wrote: > I'd appreciate people responding to digest message would take a little > care of adding a meaningful subject. And include some snippets of the text > you're referring to. > > -- > Peter Hunkeler >

Please use meaningful subject (was: ASSEMBLER-LIST Digest - 6 Jun 2016 to 20 Jun 2016 (#2016-62))

2016-06-22 Thread Peter Hunkeler
I'd appreciate people responding to digest message would take a little care of adding a meaningful subject. And include some snippets of the text you're referring to. -- Peter Hunkeler Von: John Walker <00c645a0d640-dmarc-requ...@listserv.uga.edu> An: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.U

Changing the subject

2013-07-26 Thread Jean Snow
A bunch of adminstrivia: - the very interesting discussion about dump reading/learning dump reading/etc today would be a lot more accessible in the archives if the subject included something about 'dumps' rather than '3 job openings for mainframe Assembler/C programmers'. You can change

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2013-06-16 Thread Peter Relson
System will always be able to answer a request for 64 bit - If you make it conditional it will tell you that it resolved from below the bar (if the area above the bar is exhausted). Scott, what would stop you using z-arch-instructions to handle it? That is not the way 64-bit storage works in

Subject: New BAL

2013-04-10 Thread Peter Relson
What's the new Instruction that replaces the old BAL R14,s ? By new do you mean 30 years old? If so, the BAS answer seems correct. If you mean only 15 or so years old, perhaps BRAS is the answer you seek (I did not look up just when the relative-immediate facility was introduced). Peter

Re: Subject: New BAL

2013-04-10 Thread John McKown
IIRC, some models of the S/360 had a BAS instruction. But I don't have an old S/360 POPS to make sure exactly what it did. On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:52 AM, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com wrote: What's the new Instruction that replaces the old BAL R14,s ? By new do you mean 30 years old? If

Re: Subject: New BAL

2013-04-10 Thread Michael Stack
The 360/67 had a Branch and Store (BAS, BASR) to deal with 32-bit virtual addresses. Mike At 07:25 AM 4/10/2013 -0500, you wrote: IIRC, some models of the S/360 had a BAS instruction. But I don't have an old S/360 POPS to make sure exactly what it did. On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:52 AM, Peter

Re: Subject: New BAL

2013-04-10 Thread John Ehrman
John McKown noted... IIRC, some models of the S/360 had a BAS instruction. But I don't have an old S/360 POPS to make sure exactly what it did. My old System/360 Green Card has no BAS, but I believe it was available on Models 20 and 67. I don't think it would have been in the 360 PoP. John

Re: Subject: New BAL

2013-04-10 Thread Scott Ford
, 2013 12:53 PM Subject: Re: Subject: New BAL John McKown noted... IIRC, some models of the S/360 had a BAS instruction. But I don't have an old S/360 POPS to make sure exactly what it did. My old System/360 Green Card has no BAS, but I believe it was available on Models 20 and 67.  I don't think

Re: Subject: New BAL

2013-04-10 Thread John P Kalinich
scott_j_f...@yahoo.com To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: 04/10/2013 12:14 PM Subject: Re: Subject: New BAL Sent by: IBM Mainframe Assembler List ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John, Now you say it seem to remember it on a 360/20 . I learned BAL at that time on a 360/20 Scott J

Re: Subject: New BAL

2013-04-10 Thread Michael Stack
/access/text/2010/05/102678081-05-01-acc.pdf Regards, John K IBM Mainframe Assembler List ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU wrote on 04/10/2013 12:01:44 PM: From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: 04/10/2013 12:14 PM Subject: Re: Subject: New BAL Sent

Re: Subject: New BAL

2013-04-10 Thread John Ehrman
This green card documents BAS as Branch and Store with footnote (e) Model 67. http://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/access/text/2010/05/102678081-05-01-acc.pdf Must be newer (and therefore less green) than mine (X20-1703-3).

Re: Subject: New BAL

2013-04-10 Thread Kirk Talman
://www.identityforge.com/ From: John Ehrman ehr...@us.ibm.com To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 12:53 PM Subject: Re: Subject: New BAL John McKown noted... IIRC, some models of the S/360 had a BAS instruction. But I don't

Re: Subject: New BAL

2013-04-10 Thread Bob Rutledge
John Ehrman wrote: This green card documents BAS as Branch and Store with footnote (e) Model 67. http://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/access/text/2010/05/102678081-05-01-acc.pdf Must be newer (and therefore less green) than mine (X20-1703-3). BAS/BASR first appeared in GX20-1703-9,

Re: Subject: New BAL

2013-04-10 Thread DASDBILL2
Subject: Re: Subject: New BAL John Ehrman wrote: This green card documents BAS as Branch and Store with footnote (e) Model 67. http://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/access/text/2010/05/102678081-05-01-acc.pdf Must be newer (and therefore less green) than mine (X20-1703-3

Re: Subject: New BAL

2013-04-10 Thread Bob Rutledge
: Bob Rutledge deerh...@ix.netcom.com To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 2:56:10 PM Subject: Re: Subject: New BAL John Ehrman wrote: This green card documents BAS as Branch and Store with footnote (e) Model 67. http://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/access

Re: Subject: New BAL

2013-04-10 Thread Duffy Nightingale, SSPI
@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael Stack Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 11:30 AM To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Subject: New BAL The blue card itself can be seen at http://archive.michigan-terminal-system.org/documentation/documents/IBM360-6 7RefCard.pdf Mike At 01:15 PM 4/10/2013 -0500

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2013-01-11 Thread Ron Wells
Sorry to here it...and wish your family well. Will be missed... From: Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.net To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: 01/10/2013 06:17 PM Subject:Re: Sent by:IBM Mainframe Assembler List ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hello to you

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2013-01-10 Thread Chris Mason
Hello to you all, I'm Milena, Chris Mason's daughter. I'm writing to you, to inform you that, unfortunately, dad passed away on Sunday January 6th. The funeral service will be held next Thursday January 17th in Court-Saint-Etienne, Belgium. If you wish to attend, please send me an e-mail to

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2013-01-10 Thread John McKown
I am shocked and saddened. My thoughts and prayers are with you. On Jan 10, 2013 6:14 PM, Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.net wrote: Hello to you all, I'm Milena, Chris Mason's daughter. I'm writing to you, to inform you that, unfortunately, dad passed away on Sunday January 6th. The

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2013-01-10 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi Very very said . Just yesterday noticed his comments on the TCP/IP newsgroup, kindly joking about my bad English. You have my sympathy. On 11.01.2013 01:09, Chris Mason wrote: Hello to you all, I'm Milena, Chris Mason's daughter. I'm writing to you, to inform you that, unfortunately,

Re: Subject: AW: ** ASMA030E Invalid literal usage - =CL8'MARTINWH'

2012-07-23 Thread Bill Fairchild
To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Subject: AW: ** ASMA030E Invalid literal usage - =CL8'MARTINWH' On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com wrote: I hope that any usage of LPP is solely for theoretical / experimental purposes. It is not intended for use outside

Subject: AW: ** ASMA030E Invalid literal usage - =CL8'MARTINWH'

2012-07-12 Thread Peter Relson
I hope that any usage of LPP is solely for theoretical / experimental purposes. It is not intended for use outside of the operating system, which is presumably part of the reason that it is not in the principles of operation. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design

Automatic reply: Subject: AW: ** ASMA030E Invalid literal usage - =CL8'MARTINWH'

2012-07-12 Thread Evans, James R. (RET-DAY)
I am out of the office until Monday 7/16//2012. I will read your note, as time permits, when I return to the office. If your e-mail is urgent and concerns a production issue/problem, please send your note to the 'GLO-RETS zOS Content' mailbox for attention. Thanks!

Re: Subject: AW: ** ASMA030E Invalid literal usage - =CL8'MARTINWH'

2012-07-12 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com wrote: I hope that any usage of LPP is solely for theoretical / experimental purposes. It is not intended for use outside of the operating system, which is presumably part of the reason that it is not in the principles of

Re: Subject: AW: ** ASMA030E Invalid literal usage - =CL8'MARTINWH'

2012-07-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Jul 12, 2012, at 08:24, Rob van der Heij wrote: On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com wrote: I hope that any usage of LPP is solely for theoretical / experimental purposes. It is not intended for use outside of the operating system, which is presumably part of

Re: Subject: AW: ** ASMA030E Invalid literal usage - =CL8'MARTINWH'

2012-07-12 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List [mailto:ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 10:59 AM To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Subject: AW: ** ASMA030E Invalid literal usage - =CL8'MARTINWH' snip

Re: Subject: AW: ** ASMA030E Invalid literal usage - =CL8'MARTINWH'

2012-07-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2012-07-12 16:33, Edward Jaffe wrote: On 7/12/2012 9:56 AM, McKown, John wrote: Which is totally simplistic these days. You bought your cell phone, right? Do you really think that you can do anything to it that you want to? And that it is totally documented? In today's IP is __mine__ world,

Re: Subject: AW: ** ASMA030E Invalid literal usage - =CL8'MARTINWH'

2012-07-12 Thread Gord Tomlin
Maybe there's hope: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/b2g/ -- Regards, Gord Tomlin Action Software International (a division of Mazda Computer Corporation) Tel: (905) 470-7113, Fax: (905) 470-6507 On 2012-07-12 19:28, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On 2012-07-12 16:33, Edward Jaffe wrote: On 7/12/2012

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2011-08-09 Thread Ken Porter
delete ASSEMBLER-LIST kmpor...@us.ibm.com

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2011-07-26 Thread john gilmore
http://mannen-tassen.nl/test.php?html103

Re: No Subject

2011-07-26 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 7/26/2011 5:30 PM, John McKown wrote: Smarter phising, I'd guess. They now monitor the lists and determine whose id to spoof. Then post with that id in order to make people think it is legit. Keep that in mind the next time you get an email from me saying you can cure your ED woes. Hey, I

Re: No Subject

2011-07-26 Thread Jean Snow
-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: 07/26/2011 05:39 PM Subject: Re: Sent by: IBM Mainframe Assembler List ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://redacted -- John McKown Maranatha!

Re: No Subject

2011-07-26 Thread Shane G
On Wed, Jul 27th, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Jean Snow j...@uga.edu wrote: You may be right, John. But this did come from hotmail (I checked the logs) which is msn.com. So it may be John G's account is compromised, and I set him to review just in case. Maybe ... Every so often I get batches of

Re: No Subject

2011-07-26 Thread Fred van der Windt
Smarter phising, I'd guess. They now monitor the lists and determine whose id to spoof. Then post with that id in order to make people think it is legit. Not that much smarter: the mannen-tassen in the url is Dutch for Man purses. Would anybody in this group be that interested in man purses?

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2011-05-19 Thread esst...@juno.com
Im trying to Familiarize my self with the IEAMSCHD macro. So I put together a program which has the Scheduling Routine,FRR and RMT routine as individual CSECTS. Im interested in the interaction, this is not intended for any actual use. IEAMSCHD EPADDR=SRBRTN@,

macros have no value (subject changed from ASSEMBLER-LIST Digest - 2 Mar 2011 to 3 Mar 2011 (#2011-38)

2011-03-07 Thread Martin Trübner
John, here is the full citation: Macros are only useful as IBM has used them.� Other than that, macros have no value.� What you are saying is that only IBM know what to do with macros. Or maybe IBM knows best what to do with macros and all others should avoid them. Here is a sample that

Re: Instruction Set Architecture (Subject: corrected)

2010-09-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 9/9/2010 12:14 AM, Fred van der Windt wrote: Once my erroneous comma is removed, you can walk a lot further. Read John Ehrman's article, as cited earlier by Michael Stack: http://www.kcats.org/csci/464/ho/usingtechnique.shtml Not really. The offset will still and always allow you to

Re: Instruction Set Architecture (Subject: corrected)

2010-09-09 Thread Fred van der Windt
Well As demonstrated by this very discussion the first form will baffle just about any programmer. And the 'missing' comma is (at least with us) a bad habit as well. LAR3,-4(R2) Set R3 to 4 less than R2 or: LAR3,4092(R1,R2) Set R3 to 4 less than R2

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2010-09-08 Thread Stan Weyman
my email address was change and I'm just making sure I can post to this forum. Please ignore this message. Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.commailto:weyman_s...@emc.com EMC² *(508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor

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2010-08-21 Thread john gilmore
John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA