Re: Strings (was : Fair comparison C vs HLASM)

2018-02-09 Thread Seymour J Metz
From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List <ASSEMBLER-LIST@listserv.uga.edu> on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <0014e0e4a59b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.uga.edu> Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 5:15 PM To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@listserv.uga.edu Subject: Re: Strings (was : Fair comparison C vs HLASM) On 2018-

Re: Strings (was : Fair comparison C vs HLASM)

2018-02-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2018-02-09, at 15:05:19, Seymour J Metz wrote: > Pretty much any EBCDIC code page is superior to ASCII. As to what to call > 8-bit code pages, I'd suggest using the term" 8-bit code page" and reserving > the term "ASCII" for ASCII. Especially if you find yourself having to > transfer data

Re: Strings (was : Fair comparison C vs HLASM)

2018-02-09 Thread Seymour J Metz
___ From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List <ASSEMBLER-LIST@listserv.uga.edu> on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <0014e0e4a59b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.uga.edu> Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 4:34 PM To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@listserv.uga.edu Subject: Re: Strings (was : Fair comparison C vs HL

Re: Strings (was : Fair comparison C vs HLASM)

2018-02-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2018-02-09, at 13:32:29, Seymour J Metz wrote: > I would argue that EBCDIC is intrinsically superior to ASCII. I would also > argue that it is not intrinsically superior to, e.g., ISO-8859-15. > Let's not compare an apple to an orange grove. I know you insist on precision; that ASCII is a

Re: Strings (was : Fair comparison C vs HLASM)

2018-02-09 Thread Seymour J Metz
u Subject: Re: Strings (was : Fair comparison C vs HLASM) Sent from my iPad > On Feb 8, 2018, at 7:31 PM, Robin Vowels <robi...@dodo.com.au> wrote: > > From: "Paul Raulerson" <paul.rauler...@me.com> > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 9:46 AM > > >> Be

Re: Strings (was : Fair comparison C vs HLASM)

2018-02-09 Thread Seymour J Metz
IST@listserv.uga.edu> on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <0014e0e4a59b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.uga.edu> Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 10:54 PM To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@listserv.uga.edu Subject: Re: Strings (was : Fair comparison C vs HLASM) On 2018-02-08, at 20:39:07, Tony Thigpen wrote: > Let

Re: Strings (was : Fair comparison C vs HLASM)

2018-02-09 Thread Seymour J Metz
__ From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List <ASSEMBLER-LIST@listserv.uga.edu> on behalf of Paul Raulerson <paul.rauler...@me.com> Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 9:43 AM To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@listserv.uga.edu Subject: Re: Strings (was : Fair comparison C vs HLASM) > On Feb 9, 201

Re: Strings (was : Fair comparison C vs HLASM)

2018-02-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2018-02-09, at 07:17:05, Robin Vowels wrote: > From: "Paul Gilmartin" > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 2:54 PM > >> Too much sarcasm. It's analogous to the ASCII-EBCDIC confrontation. I >> prefer >> ASCII, but EBCDIC, with no intrinsic superiority, ... > > It was superior for 80-column

Re: Strings (was : Fair comparison C vs HLASM)

2018-02-09 Thread Paul Raulerson
> On Feb 9, 2018, at 7:46 AM, Robin Vowels wrote: > > From: "Paul Raulerson" > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 1:03 PM > > >>> On Feb 8, 2018, at 7:31 PM, Robin Vowels wrote: >> >>> From: "Paul Raulerson"

Re: Strings (was : Fair comparison C vs HLASM)

2018-02-09 Thread Robin Vowels
From: "Paul Gilmartin" <0014e0e4a59b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.uga.edu> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 2:54 PM Too much sarcasm. It's analogous to the ASCII-EBCDIC confrontation. I prefer ASCII, but EBCDIC, with no intrinsic superiority, It was superior for 80-column punch card input and

Re: Strings (was : Fair comparison C vs HLASM)

2018-02-09 Thread Robin Vowels
From: "Paul Raulerson" Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 1:03 PM On Feb 8, 2018, at 7:31 PM, Robin Vowels wrote: From: "Paul Raulerson" Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 9:46 AM Because they don’t have any special

Re: Strings (was : Fair comparison C vs HLASM)

2018-02-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2018-02-08, at 20:39:07, Tony Thigpen wrote: > Let me see if I can sum up the conversation: > > There is this high and mighty language call C++ to which all other languages > must strive to emulate, and, > any other language that does not handle strings the exact same way as C (and >

Re: Strings (was : Fair comparison C vs HLASM)

2018-02-08 Thread Tony Thigpen
Let me see if I can sum up the conversation: There is this high and mighty language call C++ to which all other languages must strive to emulate, and, any other language that does not handle strings the exact same way as C (and variants) are sub-standard. And, to prove the point, the fact

Re: Strings (was : Fair comparison C vs HLASM)

2018-02-08 Thread Paul Raulerson
Sent from my iPad > On Feb 8, 2018, at 7:31 PM, Robin Vowels wrote: > > From: "Paul Raulerson" > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 9:46 AM > > >> Because they don’t have any special knowledge of strings, > > The only "special knowledge" of strings

Re: Strings (was : Fair comparison C vs HLASM)

2018-02-08 Thread Robin Vowels
From: "Paul Raulerson" Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 9:46 AM Because they don’t have any special knowledge of strings, The only "special knowledge" of strings that is required is that a string is composed of bytes. only untyped data. And the lengths of the data