Re: TIOT

2011-05-05 Thread Coyne, Paul
@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: TIOT On 5/4/2011 12:20 PM, Capon, Diego wrote: Has anybody changed default TIOT(32) to TIOT(64) in ALLOCxx member of sys1.parmlib? Any issues? None with IBM or vendor code, but you might have old, old code around that uses LH on DCBTIOT. If you don't have local assembler

Re: TIOT

2011-05-05 Thread esst...@juno.com
I know of one installation that experienced an increase in pageing activity. -- Original Message -- From: Coyne, Paul paul.co...@uk.experian.com To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: TIOT Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 10:25:03 +0100 Ditto. We did this last year and the only

Re: TIOT

2011-05-04 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 5/4/2011 12:20 PM, Capon, Diego wrote: Has anybody changed default TIOT(32) to TIOT(64) in ALLOCxx member of sys1.parmlib? Any issues? None with IBM or vendor code, but you might have old, old code around that uses LH on DCBTIOT. If you don't have local assembler code, than no problem

TIOT

2011-03-10 Thread esst...@juno.com
I seem to recall that the TIOT was chained from the TCB. Now does that mean that each TCB (within and Address Space) will be allocated a TIOT regardless of any dataset allocated by that TCB ? 2nd Has anyone had to create a Larger TIOT for a specific Task (TCB) by Obtaining storage in the right

Re: TIOT

2011-03-10 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:38:13 GMT esst...@juno.com esst...@juno.com wrote: :I seem to recall that the TIOT was chained from the TCB. :Now does that mean that each TCB (within and Address Space) will be allocated a TIOT regardless of any dataset allocated by that TCB ? Typically the TIOT

Re: TIOT

2011-03-10 Thread David Bond
, have you looked into using the XTIOT for dynamic allocations? For ages now, VSAM data sets can be allocated using the XTIOT and uncaptured UCBs. As of z/OS 1.12 almost all other access methods also support XTIOT and uncaptured UCBs. XTIOT allocations do not use entries in the regular TIOT

Re: TIOT

2011-03-10 Thread Bill Fairchild
The performance issue that I remember had to do with any software product that creates a large number of dynamic allocations. Each such allocation requires a new entry in the TIOT for the DDNAME. One example of such a product is DB2. Periodically SMF records may be written to record

Re: TIOT

2011-03-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mar 10, 2011, at 08:06, Bill Fairchild wrote: ... The original implementation of SMF only recorded EXCP counts when the file was closed, which will never happen if the job never ends. Just curious -- would an orderly system shutdown flush such accounting records, perhaps by sending a STOP

Re: TIOT

2011-03-10 Thread Bill Fairchild
Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 9:41 AM To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: TIOT On Mar 10, 2011, at 08:06, Bill Fairchild wrote: ... The original implementation of SMF only recorded EXCP counts when the file was closed, which will never happen if the job never ends

Re: TIOT

2011-03-10 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 3/10/2011 7:38 AM, esst...@juno.com wrote: The reason why I ask this question - I was informed that increasing the TIOT parmlib parameter from 32 to 64 created performance problems. What ? The change was not made by a CICS nor MVS Sys Prog, but from a DB2/DBA. Know one can tell me what

Re: XTIOT (was: TIOT)

2011-03-10 Thread john gilmore
The OP wrote: | The change was not made by a CICS nor MVS Sys Prog, but from a DB2/DBA. Thus--unless of course the version of DB2 in use in his shop is improbably old--this issue is moot. As others have already noted, the XTIOT was developed chiefly for DB2; and its use by DB2 obviates TIOT

Re: XTIOT (was: TIOT)

2011-03-10 Thread Dougie Lawson
, the XTIOT was developed chiefly for DB2; and its use by DB2 obviates TIOT-sizing problems related to DB2 and any need for a DB2 DBA to make the TIOT proper larger. Others may of course go along for the ride, electing to use the XTIOT (as DFSORT has already done). There is BSAM, QSAM and BPAM

Re: TIOT

2011-03-10 Thread esst...@juno.com
David Bond Wrote First I would ask: why do you need so many active allocations at once? It is a CICS Region - I was hoping I could expand the size of the TIOT via a program. -- Original Message -- From: David Bond david-b...@comcast.net To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Re: TIOT

2011-03-10 Thread McKown, John
Increasing the size of the TIOT on the fly is not supported. If you do, then all I can say is: Son, you're on your own. (anybody recognize the reference?) Here: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071230/quotes (not for the easily offended. Or the not-so-easily offended - very vulgar language

Re: TIOT

2011-03-10 Thread McKown, John
: IBM Mainframe Assembler List [mailto:ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Bond Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:24 PM To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: TIOT Are they VSAM files? If so, the CICS should long ago have been changed to use XTIOT allocations