Re: [asterisk-dev] Module Deprecation, Default Not Building, and Removal

2020-10-02 Thread Dan Jenkins
I was hoping you'd pipe in again Jared! Thank you! On Fri, 2 Oct 2020, 20:20 Jared Smith, wrote: > On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 11:50 AM Dan Jenkins wrote: > >> sorry, I thought I was agreeing with you :) we need to engage package >> maintainers to potentially help ease the shift - if packages are a

Re: [asterisk-dev] Module Deprecation, Default Not Building, and Removal

2020-10-02 Thread Jared Smith
On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 11:50 AM Dan Jenkins wrote: > sorry, I thought I was agreeing with you :) we need to engage package > maintainers to potentially help ease the shift - if packages are a > thing but as far as I'm concerned most package managers have out of > date versions of Asterisk, or

Re: [asterisk-dev] Module Deprecation, Default Not Building, and Removal

2020-10-02 Thread Dan Jenkins
Hi Olle, sorry, I thought I was agreeing with you :) we need to engage package maintainers to potentially help ease the shift - if packages are a thing but as far as I'm concerned most package managers have out of date versions of Asterisk, or don't have things you want so you end up building

Re: [asterisk-dev] Module Deprecation, Default Not Building, and Removal

2020-10-02 Thread Olle E. Johansson
I think you misunderstand me. I am not against deprecation and deletion. I just want us to find a way to try to get through to a larger group of users when we do this. For the SIP channel case, I don’t think anyone has missed it - it’s been far too long with two channels, which is confusing. The

Re: [asterisk-dev] Module Deprecation, Default Not Building, and Removal

2020-10-02 Thread Dan Jenkins
Ultimately whats stopping package maintainers from releasing "asterisk-full" which still has all the deprecated modules enabled and "asterisk" which follows the defaults? Nothing Other packages get released in such a way so why not asterisk? I'm 100% not qualified to talk about it because I

Re: [asterisk-dev] Module Deprecation, Default Not Building, and Removal

2020-10-02 Thread Olle E. Johansson
Hi! I like adding product management and actually removing stuff that the company can’t keep maintaining - and don’t wan’t to. Compared with years ago a lot of users never bother building asterisk any more and don’t interface with the project, they just run “apt-get install asterisk” and they ar