Re: [asterisk-dev] Proposal for New Major Version Process Change

2020-07-08 Thread George Joseph
On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 6:21 AM Joshua C. Colp wrote: > Greetings all, > > I've given this some thought in the past and thought with the impending > branching of Asterisk 18 I'd get some input on a change to the process. The > new major version process has evolved over time but hasn't really been

Re: [asterisk-dev] Proposal for New Major Version Process Change

2020-07-08 Thread Joshua C. Colp
On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 10:24 AM Dan Jenkins wrote: > YES YES YES. > I'm sorry, I didn't quite hear you. Did you say "no"? :D > I never really got why it was done like it was... > Yeah, I don't really recall why either. I think it originates from a time where we were still early to testing

Re: [asterisk-dev] Proposal for New Major Version Process Change

2020-07-08 Thread Joshua C. Colp
On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 9:56 AM Jared Smith wrote: > On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 8:21 AM Joshua C. Colp wrote: > >> 1. It leaves a confusing area for developers where we have to ask "should >> this go into 18.0?" >> 2. It confuses users because if they upgrade to 18.0.0 then it is likely >> the other

Re: [asterisk-dev] Proposal for New Major Version Process Change

2020-07-08 Thread Dan Jenkins
YES YES YES. I never really got why it was done like it was... I agree, 4-6 weeks is good. If someone's going to take the time to upgrade to an 18 RC then they'll be looking to test it and give feedback etc etc so you don't need a huge amount of time... just enough to actually action bug fixes

[asterisk-dev] Proposal for New Major Version Process Change

2020-07-08 Thread Joshua C. Colp
Greetings all, I've given this some thought in the past and thought with the impending branching of Asterisk 18 I'd get some input on a change to the process. The new major version process has evolved over time but hasn't really been changed lately. Let's look at what it is like in practice

Re: [asterisk-dev] Proposal for New Major Version Process Change

2020-07-08 Thread Jared Smith
On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 8:21 AM Joshua C. Colp wrote: > 1. It leaves a confusing area for developers where we have to ask "should > this go into 18.0?" > 2. It confuses users because if they upgrade to 18.0.0 then it is likely > the other current releases have bug fixes they don't have, which has

Re: [asterisk-dev] Proposal for New Major Version Process Change

2020-07-08 Thread Corey Farrell
With the current process new features can be added with tests can target 18 as soon as the branch is cut but would not go into 18.0.  What would happen with new features in this scheme, would they just get held open in gerrit until 18.0 is branched or be accepted as normal since 18.0.0 release

Re: [asterisk-dev] Proposal for New Major Version Process Change

2020-07-08 Thread Joshua C. Colp
On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 12:57 PM Corey Farrell wrote: > With the current process new features can be added with tests can target > 18 as soon as the branch is cut but would not go into 18.0. What would > happen with new features in this scheme, would they just get held open in > gerrit until

Re: [asterisk-dev] Proposal for New Major Version Process Change

2020-07-08 Thread Kevin Harwell
+1 I would also would approve of other potential changes to releases and the release process but will save that for another time :-D On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 7:21 AM Joshua C. Colp wrote: > Greetings all, > > I've given this some thought in the past and thought with the impending > branching of

Re: [asterisk-dev] Proposal for New Major Version Process Change

2020-07-08 Thread Michael L. Young
- On Jul 8, 2020, at 8:20 AM, Joshua C. Colp wrote: | I'd like to propose that instead of cutting the 18.0 branch on July 15th we | simply cut the 18 branch, and that it continues to receive all bug fixes. | Approximately a month before a target release of 18.0.0 we create the first |

Re: [asterisk-dev] Proposal for New Major Version Process Change

2020-07-08 Thread James Finstrom
Well if it got Dan Jenkins excited :) I dig it. On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 6:25 AM Dan Jenkins wrote: > > YES YES YES. > > I never really got why it was done like it was... > > I agree, 4-6 weeks is good. If someone's going to take the time to upgrade to > an 18 RC then they'll be looking to test

Re: [asterisk-dev] Proposal for New Major Version Process Change

2020-07-08 Thread Sylvain Boily
Hello, On 2020-07-08 8:20 a.m., Joshua C. Colp wrote: What do people think? Do we believe that a month out is ample enough? The 18 branch itself will exist, so that can be used for early testing (and likely will be). If a month isn't enough it could be moved out further. Really I think

[asterisk-dev] Advanced Codec Negotiation: Should we allow an endpoint with no codecs configured?

2020-07-08 Thread George Joseph
Today, if you create an endpoint configuration with no codecs, we create an empty topology for it but otherwise accept it. I'm not sure what you'd use it for though. Is there a situation where an endpoint with no codecs _should_ be allowed or can we start rejecting those endpoint

Re: [asterisk-dev] Proposal for New Major Version Process Change

2020-07-08 Thread Matthew Fredrickson
On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 8:29 AM Joshua C. Colp wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 10:24 AM Dan Jenkins wrote: >> >> YES YES YES. > > > I'm sorry, I didn't quite hear you. Did you say "no"? :D > >> >> I never really got why it was done like it was... > > > Yeah, I don't really recall why either. I