Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2011-05-24 Thread BroadTel
Hi all, Just in case if anyone will be interested in BroadTel UPA-1, a USB to FXS adapter embedded with SIP softphone. Product specification is as follows: Hardware: USB to RJ11 FXS adapter 1 USB port, for computer connection 1 RJ-11 FXS, for phone connection Dimension (L x W x H): 53 x 15 x 28

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2011-05-24 Thread A J Stiles
On Tuesday 24 May 2011, BroadTel wrote: Hi all, Just in case if anyone will be interested in *REDACTED*, a USB to FXS adapter embedded with SIP softphone. Product specification is as follows: Please refer to the fifth and sixth words of the title of this mailing list. To everyone else, I

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2011-05-24 Thread jon pounder
On 05/24/2011 11:35 AM, A J Stiles wrote: Someone asked about the quality of it, he was quoting the hardware specs of a similar device. I doubt magicjack publishes that kind of detail about theirs. so where is the problem ? Its irrelevant he represents that device commercially. On

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2011-05-24 Thread A J Stiles
On Tuesday 24 May 2011, jon pounder wrote: On 05/24/2011 11:35 AM, A J Stiles wrote: Someone asked about the quality of it, he was quoting the hardware specs of a similar device. No they didn't. The original message to which the spammer was pretending to reply (and in the wrong place,

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2011-05-24 Thread jon pounder
On 05/24/2011 11:57 AM, A J Stiles wrote: On Tuesday 24 May 2011, jon pounder wrote: On 05/24/2011 11:35 AM, A J Stiles wrote: Someone asked about the quality of it, he was quoting the hardware specs of a similar device. No they didn't. The original message to which the spammer was

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2011-05-24 Thread Steve Edwards
On 05/24/2011 11:35 AM, A J Stiles wrote: No they didn't. The original message to which the spammer was pretending to reply (and in the wrong place, even) never existed in the first place. On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Matthew Rubenstein... My archives

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2011-05-24 Thread Leif Madsen
On 11-05-24 01:21 PM, Steve Edwards wrote: If it take the OP (of this thread) 3 years to reply, what does that say about their product support? Par for the course? :) Leif. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2011-05-24 Thread Doug Lytle
Steve Edwards wrote: My archives don't go back that far Mine do. No match on Jack, magic or itntelecom.com mailto:c.savinov...@itntelecom.com Doug -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com --

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2011-05-24 Thread Warren Selby
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Doug Lytle supp...@drdos.info wrote: Steve Edwards wrote: My archives don't go back that far Mine do. No match on Jack, magic or itntelecom.com mailto: c.savinov...@itntelecom.com Doug

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2011-05-24 Thread Doug Lytle
Warren Selby wrote: A quick google for magicjack quality C. Savinovich Interesting, it would appear that my archives are incomplete. Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. --

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2011-05-24 Thread jon pounder
On 05/24/2011 02:45 PM, Warren Selby wrote: On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Doug Lytle supp...@drdos.info mailto:supp...@drdos.info wrote: Steve Edwards wrote: My archives don't go back that far Mine do. No match on Jack, magic or itntelecom.com http://itntelecom.com

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2008-07-17 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
Steve Underwood wrote: You might think a standard phone plugged into an adaptor, like a Magic-jack, would be limited to narrow band voice, as that is all the phone was designed for. It turns out most phones only aggressively filter at the low end of the band. They let a lot of energy above

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2008-07-17 Thread Steve Underwood
Kevin P. Fleming wrote: Steve Underwood wrote: You might think a standard phone plugged into an adaptor, like a Magic-jack, would be limited to narrow band voice, as that is all the phone was designed for. It turns out most phones only aggressively filter at the low end of the band.

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2008-07-17 Thread Kristian Kielhofner
On 7/17/08, Steve Underwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is certainly true. Many of the comments people make about codecs owe more to the phone than the codec. However, there are various types of impairment. Even a phone which doesn't sound nearly as good as it could in G.711 mode may

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2008-07-17 Thread Dean Collins
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristian Kielhofner Sent: Thursday, 17 July 2008 11:35 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality On 7/17/08, Steve Underwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is certainly true. Many of the comments

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2008-07-17 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:34:30AM -0400, Kristian Kielhofner wrote: Could someone please explain to me why business desk phones are so expensive? I'm not knocking my friends over at Polycom, Snom, or any other manufacturer but in some cases you can buy a cheap but usable laptop for less

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2008-07-17 Thread Steve Underwood
Dean Collins wrote: 1/ RD costs v's number of units manafactured per annum. The only business phone I ever contributed to had a run rate of about 500K/annum and a production life of multiple years (not sure how many it lasted for). I put some (at the time) exotic DSP into a high end

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2008-07-17 Thread Jason Aarons (US)
-users] MagicJack quality Steve Underwood wrote: You might think a standard phone plugged into an adaptor, like a Magic-jack, would be limited to narrow band voice, as that is all the phone was designed for. It turns out most phones only aggressively filter at the low end of the band

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2008-07-17 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith (lists)
On July 17, 2008 11:44:07 am Dean Collins wrote: 1/ RD costs v's number of units manafactured per annum. That's bullshit; There are many more office phones than office desktops out there, and the research has been paid for many times over. Think of how long the Meridian 1 has been around.

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2008-07-12 Thread Steve Underwood
Anthony Francis wrote: Steve Underwood wrote: C. Savinovich wrote: I am puzzled by the quality of magicjack. I keep trying to figure out how they can the quality be that adequate. Since Skype also has an excellent quality, that leaves me to believe that software based calls

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2008-07-12 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 10:26:24AM +0800, Steve Underwood wrote: C. Savinovich wrote: I am puzzled by the quality of magicjack. I keep trying to figure out how they can the quality be that adequate. Since Skype also has an excellent quality, that leaves me to believe that software based

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2008-07-12 Thread Steve Underwood
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 10:26:24AM +0800, Steve Underwood wrote: C. Savinovich wrote: I am puzzled by the quality of magicjack. I keep trying to figure out how they can the quality be that adequate. Since Skype also has an excellent quality, that leaves me to

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2008-07-12 Thread Michael Graves
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:26:06 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: As Michael Graves points out, people will hack it to run on thin clients and why not virtual machines with very limited access? Maybe an AP with a USB port and OpenWRT or something? Since it needs to run their app it's probablly limited to

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2008-07-12 Thread Steve Totaro
On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:26:06 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: As Michael Graves points out, people will hack it to run on thin clients and why not virtual machines with very limited access? Maybe an AP with a USB port and

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2008-07-12 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 09:54:37AM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:26:06 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: As Michael Graves points out, people will hack it to run on thin clients and why not virtual

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2008-07-12 Thread Steve Totaro
On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 09:54:37AM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:26:06 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: As Michael Graves points

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2008-07-12 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 11:52:21AM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 09:54:37AM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 11 Jul 2008

[asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2008-07-11 Thread C. Savinovich
I am puzzled by the quality of magicjack. I keep trying to figure out how they can the quality be that adequate. Since Skype also has an excellent quality, that leaves me to believe that software based calls (softphones) could have and advantage over hardphones, provided there is a parameter

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2008-07-11 Thread Michael Graves
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:13:15 -0400, C. Savinovich wrote: I am puzzled by the quality of magicjack. I keep trying to figure out how they can the quality be that adequate. Since Skype also has an excellent quality, that leaves me to believe that software based calls (softphones) could have and

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2008-07-11 Thread Anthony Francis
Good light codecs like speex, and minimal feature sets. C. Savinovich wrote: I am puzzled by the quality of magicjack. I keep trying to figure out how they can the quality be that adequate. Since Skype also has an excellent quality, that leaves me to believe that software based calls

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2008-07-11 Thread Steve Totaro
Not sure about magicjack but skype has supernodes that play a large part in how the system works well. http://geemodo.blogspot.com/2006/10/dont-be-skype-supernode-or-how-not-to.html Thanks, Steve T On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Anthony Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good light codecs like

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2008-07-11 Thread C. Savinovich
PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:13:15 -0400, C. Savinovich wrote: I am puzzled by the quality of magicjack. I keep trying to figure out how they can the quality be that adequate. Since Skype

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2008-07-11 Thread Joe Greco
I am puzzled by the quality of magicjack. I keep trying to figure out how they can the quality be that adequate. Since Skype also has an excellent quality, that leaves me to believe that software based calls (softphones) could have and advantage over hardphones, provided there is a parameter

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2008-07-11 Thread C. Savinovich
, and I am a naturally very curious *technical* fellow. CS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Greco Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 5:41 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality I am puzzled

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2008-07-11 Thread Steve Totaro
, 2008 5:41 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality I am puzzled by the quality of magicjack. I keep trying to figure out how they can the quality be that adequate. Since Skype also has an excellent quality, that leaves me to believe that software

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2008-07-11 Thread Michael Graves
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:28:09 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: I don't see Magicjack being around long. The business model isn't sustainable without tons of ads, and even then, people will either ignore them if they are audio or if they are popups, they will simply close them or disable them. I might

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2008-07-11 Thread C. Savinovich
List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality I don't see Magicjack being around long. The business model isn't sustainable without tons of ads, and even then, people will either ignore them if they are audio or if they are popups, they will simply close them

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2008-07-11 Thread Steve Totaro
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 6:28 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality I don't see Magicjack being around long

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2008-07-11 Thread Steve Underwood
C. Savinovich wrote: I am puzzled by the quality of magicjack. I keep trying to figure out how they can the quality be that adequate. Since Skype also has an excellent quality, that leaves me to believe that software based calls (softphones) could have and advantage over hardphones, provided

Re: [asterisk-users] MagicJack quality

2008-07-11 Thread Anthony Francis
Steve Underwood wrote: C. Savinovich wrote: I am puzzled by the quality of magicjack. I keep trying to figure out how they can the quality be that adequate. Since Skype also has an excellent quality, that leaves me to believe that software based calls (softphones) could have and