Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic

2006-03-24 Thread Wilson Pickett
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic

2006-03-23 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Wednesday 22 March 2006 15:07, John Novack wrote: Forums, perhaps. The SUBJECT was mailing list traffic, though. I know you want to change the subject, but the discussion on traffic mentioned splitting off ( fill in the blank ) to another list, NOT list vs Forum. Bah, I went off on a

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic

2006-03-22 Thread Dovid Bender
I have a rule in my outlook to delete any email that in the subject it says asterisk users mailing list traffic. Get my drift ? This topic has been around for a long time as others have mentioned and people keep replying. This useless topic alone adds several messages to my inbox daily.

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic

2006-03-22 Thread Lacy Moore - Aspendora
I agree. Gmail and mailing lists go together as well as Coke and ice. I moved all my mailing lists over to Gmail and it's great. It keeps lists out of my main email and the search is so good, you think it's Google :-) On 3/20/06, Brian Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/19/06, James Harper [EMAIL

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic

2006-03-22 Thread John Novack
Isn't it curious that, given the delete rule, he knows this has been discussed once again, and feels the need to add to the number of useless messages. In fact, since the subject keeps coming up, perhaps there really is an issue that needs to be addressed?? The only thing constant is

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic

2006-03-22 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Wednesday 22 March 2006 10:51, John Novack wrote: In fact, since the subject keeps coming up, perhaps there really is an issue that needs to be addressed?? It has been addressed. There are a host of forum sites specific to Asterisk, and even more (such as tek-tips) which include Asterisk

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic

2006-03-22 Thread Aaron Daniel
LOL, but it's such an interesting discussion :-P On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, Dovid Bender wrote: I have a rule in my outlook to delete any email that in the subject it says asterisk users mailing list traffic. Get my drift ? This topic has been around for a long time as others have mentioned and

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic

2006-03-22 Thread John Novack
Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On Wednesday 22 March 2006 10:51, John Novack wrote: In fact, since the subject keeps coming up, perhaps there really is an issue that needs to be addressed?? It has been addressed. There are a host of forum sites specific to Asterisk, and even more (such

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic

2006-03-22 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Monday 20 March 2006 23:06, Ira wrote: I doubt the goal is to keep traffic down, in my case it might mean I don't need to delete all of the hardware related stuff which at this time is essentially of no interest to me. Personally I'd be more likely to help with answers to my limited

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic

2006-03-21 Thread Charles Marcus
Whether or not a forum is a better idea isn't really depending on the subject matter IMHO. Its success or failure depends on what the prospective participants like better. I personally cannot stand forums. That's a place where I have to expend energy to go there and manually click through

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic

2006-03-21 Thread Derek Whitten
Charles Marcus wrote: Whether or not a forum is a better idea isn't really depending on the subject matter IMHO. Its success or failure depends on what the prospective participants like better. I personally cannot stand forums. That's a place where I have to expend energy to go there and

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic

2006-03-21 Thread Eric \ManxPower\ Wieling
Derek Whitten wrote: Charles Marcus wrote: Whether or not a forum is a better idea isn't really depending on the subject matter IMHO. Its success or failure depends on what the prospective participants like better. I personally cannot stand forums. That's a place where I have to expend energy

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic

2006-03-21 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Tuesday 21 March 2006 15:11, Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote: Too bad you didn't include the word forum in the subject. It's called a .procmailrc: :0 * ^Sender:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [ huge .procmailrc snipped ] .Asterisk-Users/ } So do you get *any* traffic for -users? :-) -A.

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic

2006-03-20 Thread James Sturges
One thing that may help: I use outlook rule to move all the messages into a folder. Then outlook has a feature, instead of sorting by date, or subject, you can sort by conservation. It then groups the messages by thread in date order, so you can sort through the emails very quickly and allows

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic

2006-03-20 Thread Brian Roy
On 3/19/06, James Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That being said, a mailing list with a forum interface (or a forum witha mailing list option) might be a reasonable compromise as it should meet the needs of both mailing list lovers and forum lovers (assuming itis implemented properly!) All- if

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic

2006-03-20 Thread Kristian Larsson
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 08:23:03PM -0600, Rich Adamson wrote: This same issue has been discussed many times over the last two years. Not likely its going to change now. I just love this attitude. Could someone managing these lists outline the requirements to change the lists? Do we need a vote

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic

2006-03-20 Thread Rich Adamson
Kristian Larsson wrote: On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 08:23:03PM -0600, Rich Adamson wrote: This same issue has been discussed many times over the last two years. Not likely its going to change now. I just love this attitude. Guess its not an attitude as much as having been around this list for

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic

2006-03-20 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Monday 20 March 2006 09:39, Kristian Larsson wrote: I just love this attitude. A modicum of thought for others may save you from yourself. This has been discussed many, many times. The problem is a complex one, and one that has been thought through many times by people much smarter than

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic

2006-03-20 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Monday 20 March 2006 09:56, Rich Adamson wrote: FWIW, I'd vote to keep it the way it is now and I'll just make use of the delete key to handle uninteresting noise. Amen. I currently have 12619 messages in -users, and that's with kmail expiring old messages. I've been on these lists as

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic

2006-03-20 Thread James Harper
One thing that may help: I use outlook rule to move all the messages into a folder. Then outlook has a feature, instead of sorting by date, or subject, you can sort by conservation. Me too. Except, for some reason it often misses the first message of the conversation (especially if I'm

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic

2006-03-20 Thread Ira
At 07:07 AM 03/20/2006, you wrote: I've been involved in projects with eighty mailing lists to cover every facet of the project to try and keep traffic down and it Simply Does Not Work. Anyone claiming otherwise has never been involved in such a project. I doubt the goal is to keep traffic

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic

2006-03-19 Thread Charles Marcus
David Rahn wrote: This would lend its self to less repitition of questions as the lists would be much more searchable At this time I 3 months of this list and it is over 13,900 messages. In other words GREAT IDEA I THIRD THAT!! I do think all hardware disscussion ( as it effects

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic

2006-03-19 Thread Ron Wellsted
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Charles Marcus wrote: Actually, for something like Asterisk, that has so many different aspects, a Forum would be a much better idea. Then, each piece of hardware can have its own category, along with an FAQ. You mean something like:

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic

2006-03-19 Thread Ira
At 07:50 AM 03/19/2006, you wrote: Actually, for something like Asterisk, that has so many different aspects, a Forum would be a much better idea. Then, each piece of hardware can have its own category, along with an FAQ. There's lots of Asterisk forums out there already, but weirdly enough

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic

2006-03-19 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 19 Mar 2006, at 17:47, Ira wrote: At 07:50 AM 03/19/2006, you wrote: Actually, for something like Asterisk, that has so many different aspects, a Forum would be a much better idea. Then, each piece of hardware can have its own category, along with an FAQ. There's lots of Asterisk

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic

2006-03-19 Thread James Harper
Actually, for something like Asterisk, that has so many different aspects, a Forum would be a much better idea. Then, each piece of hardware can have its own category, along with an FAQ. Please no. A forum might be okay if you have a nice fast web connection and/or a bit of patience, and if

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic

2006-03-18 Thread pdhales
I was also thinking a list for newbies... PaulH - Original Message - From: Robert La Ferla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 2:33 PM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic The volume/traffic on this list has

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic

2006-03-18 Thread Martin Joseph
On Mar 18, 2006, at 2:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was also thinking a list for newbies... As a newb I think that is a bad idea. First of all, the heavy hitters will all want to avoid it( a newb list). Secondly I have learned a LOT just by reading other peoples (non newbs) problems

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic

2006-03-18 Thread Matt Bruce
Hi all, First post, etc, etc. :) Robert La Ferla wrote: Perhaps, we could split the list into two: As the list uses Mailman, it is possible to specify topics on the subject prefix and then set your Mailman preferences to select which topics you like. The admin could, for a simple

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic

2006-03-18 Thread Aaron Daniel
Splitting the list by type of request may be a good idea, but splitting based on skill level is just a bad idea... I'm pretty sure that regardless of a newbie's status, they'll still just go to the other lists as the newbie list likely won't do much good. In short, I agree with different

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic

2006-03-18 Thread Rich Adamson
This same issue has been discussed many times over the last two years. Not likely its going to change now. Aaron Daniel wrote: Splitting the list by type of request may be a good idea, but splitting based on skill level is just a bad idea... I'm pretty sure that regardless of a newbie's

RE : [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic

2006-03-18 Thread f6hqz-m
. -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de [EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : samedi 18 mars 2006 23:05 À : Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Objet : Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic I was also thinking a list

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic

2006-03-17 Thread John Novack
Why not shove all the ENDLESS discussions on Cisco, Polycom, Snom, and other problem phones to their own list? John Novack Robert La Ferla wrote: The volume/traffic on this list has been getting pretty heavy. I find it hard to follow certain discussions and there are some that I am not

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic

2006-03-17 Thread David Rahn
-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Users Mailing List Traffic Why not shove all the ENDLESS discussions on Cisco, Polycom, Snom, and other problem phones to their own list? John Novack Robert La Ferla wrote: The volume/traffic on this list has been getting pretty heavy