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Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 1:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SIP Phones-Receptionist Setup
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On Thu, 2004-11-25 at 13:24 -0600, Carmi Weinzweig wrote:
Again, note that I am not asking to display trunk status, just
extension status, and to allow a user to place a call on hold on one
phone and pick it up on another (that has that shared extension).
From another posting today (SNOM
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SIP Phones-Receptionist Setup
I'm not saying
I'm not saying that it would compromise *'s 'PBXness'. But you are
comparing products that have DECADES of development and maturity,
building on basic features that * is just now getting stable, and that
use proprietary hardware to accomplish these features.
Kinda my point. I
Hello,
I'm certainly not an expert on this, but isn't one of the limiting
factors the functionality implemented by manufacturers in their sip
phones? Or, are we assuming the lamp field is an external device
unrelated to the current production phones?
(I do understand that at least some
On Nov 21, 2004, at 11:15 AM, Wayne Sheppard wrote:
Tracy R Reed wrote:
On Sat, Nov 20, 2004 at 06:55:56PM -0500, Noah Miller spake thusly:
This does seem to be a common request, but I haven't seen any great
Yes, it is. I am surprised * still can't do it.
I'm not surprised. Asterisk is a PBX, not
On Nov 20, 2004, at 11:05 PM, Gregory Junker wrote:
Most customers don't want to be in a new era. They want something
they are
accustomed to. I don't need any more impediments to making money than
I've
already got. So if the customer wants a busy lamp, I am going to do my
best to give it to
I would like you to name one PBX that does not support this behavior?
Every system from Avaya including their Definity, Merlin Legend, Merlin
Magix, Partner, and their new IP based PBXes support it, as do those
from Mitel, Nortel, InteCom and every other system that I have ever
used. A typical
Carmi Weinzweig wrote:
On Nov 21, 2004, at 11:15 AM, Wayne Sheppard wrote:
Tracy R Reed wrote:
On Sat, Nov 20, 2004 at 06:55:56PM -0500, Noah Miller spake thusly:
This does seem to be a common request, but I haven't seen any great
Yes, it is. I am surprised * still can't do it.
I'm not
On Nov 25, 2004, at 12:37 PM, Gregory Junker wrote:
I would like you to name one PBX that does not support this behavior?
Every system from Avaya including their Definity, Merlin Legend,
Merlin Magix, Partner, and their new IP based PBXes support it, as do
those from Mitel, Nortel, InteCom and
I'm not saying that it would compromise *'s 'PBXness'. But you are
comparing products that have DECADES of development and maturity,
building on basic features that * is just now getting stable, and that
use proprietary hardware to accomplish these features.
Kinda my point. I reiterate, if
I went an nosed around the Bayonne site, and looked at their devel list
archivesbased on historical trends, that project looks dormant (it
seems to be duplicating what Asterisk does already -- and better). Other
projects it links to also look either dormant or missing.
I have seriously
I have a 200 and the hint() stuff works fine for indicating status of
any channel (including Agent channels). The Snom subscribes to
asterisk at whatever url you put in there, then * will send notify
events when the dialog state changes. It's not quite a shared-line
(at least the way I
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SIP Phones-Receptionist Setup
I have a 200 and the hint() stuff works fine for indicating status of any
channel (including Agent channels
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004, Brian Roy wrote:
I would look at putting a dual monitor on her desk. You can pick up a
15 flat panel and a video card for about the same cost as the SNOM.
Not to mention, you get quite a bit more benifite from the FOP
controls than you do busy lamp fields. It's a a new
You should always design an interface around a human being. A hard
I could not agree more. Usability is my focus in any software
system...including open-source, where it is typically the last thing
considered.
Greg
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$400-500 device here. Not very price competitive. I would like to
see less than half that.
I agree that any touch screen ought to be able to do normal computer
graphics. At this point, you are into normal LCD displays with touch
capability, which I
On Sunday 21 November 2004 11:16, James H. Thompson wrote:
Gregory Junker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
$400-500 device here. Not very price competitive. I would like to
see less than half that.
I agree that any touch screen ought to be able to do normal computer
graphics. At this point, you
Hi,
Me and another guy are working on LCD drivers etc for Linux. The thing
is, the display would be run from your Asterisk Server. I.E. It will
need to be run from either Parallel, Serial or USB port. We will open
source it once finished, and are not too far off, probably just a spare
day
Not all over $500 - a quick search finds:
For purposes of replacing a receptionist console with a touch screen
(for example, replacing a 6x9 grid of buttons), that would be too small
as well.
Greg
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On Sunday 21 November 2004 11:42 am, Gregory Junker wrote:
Not all over $500 - a quick search finds:
For purposes of replacing a receptionist console with a touch screen
(for example, replacing a 6x9 grid of buttons), that would be too small
as well.
Greg
Another strong possibility is that
Another strong possibility is that after a while, few operators would be
willing to continue holding their arms in the air to operate a touch screen.
Why would they be holding their arms in the air? You mount the touch
panel in the same place at the same angle as the current console...
Greg
On Sunday 21 November 2004 11:42 am, Gregory Junker wrote:
Not all over $500 - a quick search finds:
For purposes of replacing a receptionist console with a touch screen
(for example, replacing a 6x9 grid of buttons), that would be too small
as well.
Greg
Another strong
On Sunday 21 November 2004 11:50 am, Gregory Junker wrote:
Another strong possibility is that after a while, few operators would be
willing to continue holding their arms in the air to operate a touch
screen.
Why would they be holding their arms in the air? You mount the touch
panel in
Tracy R Reed wrote:
On Sat, Nov 20, 2004 at 06:55:56PM -0500, Noah Miller spake thusly:
This does seem to be a common request, but I haven't seen any great
Yes, it is. I am surprised * still can't do it.
I'm not surprised. Asterisk is a PBX, not a key system or a hybrid
system. The
I'm not surprised. Asterisk is a PBX, not a key system or a hybrid
system. The kind of functionality that is being described here is one or
both of those 'other' beasts. Now I'm not saying that this wouldn't be
nice, or even a long term requirement if you really want to open the
entire SME
Is there an open source key system, comparable to *?
If there isn't , I'd be happy to work on developing one. It is clear
that the need still exists for such a user interface paradigm.
Greg
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Bob Goddard wrote:
Not all over $500 - a quick search finds:
http://www.xenarcdirect.com/search_results.asp?txtsearchParamCat=6txtsearc
hParamType=ALLtxtsearchParamMan=ALLtxtsearchParamVen=ALLiLevel=1
Product ID: 700TSCategory: 7 LCD Monitor
700TS - 7' USB Touch Screen LCD Monitor with VGA
On Sat, Nov 20, 2004 at 09:11:15PM -0800, Tracy R Reed said:
On Sun, Nov 21, 2004 at 12:05:27AM -0500, Gregory Junker spake thusly:
What is the size of the current line panel on her desk? I am thinking it
might be worthwhile to produce an addon to Asterisk that drives a flat
touchpanel
Gregory Junker wrote:
Is there an open source key system, comparable to *?
If there isn't , I'd be happy to work on developing one. It is clear
that the need still exists for such a user interface paradigm.
Bayonne is supposed to act as a key system, at least that's what was
described on the
I am looking at placing a system in an office with a central
receptionist,
and phones for each individual employee thereafter. Could I use a
Snom 220
with additional keypads to view if the lines are in use by the other
employees?
Fred is in sales... A call comes into the receptionist and they
On Sat, Nov 20, 2004 at 06:55:56PM -0500, Noah Miller spake thusly:
This does seem to be a common request, but I haven't seen any great
Yes, it is. I am surprised * still can't do it.
Another option is the Flash Operator Panel, you can see a live demo at
http://www.asternic.com/ It is a
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 15:58:48 -0800, Tracy R Reed
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I proposed something like this to a client but the receptionist has other
duties for her computer and does not want to have to have the operator
panel up all the time or go searching for the window in the taskbar every
On Sat, Nov 20, 2004 at 09:25:38PM -0600, Brian Roy spake thusly:
I would look at putting a dual monitor on her desk. You can pick up a
15 flat panel and a video card for about the same cost as the SNOM.
She doesn't want another monitor.
Asterisk is not your dad's pbx.
Most customers don't
Most customers don't want to be in a new era. They want something they are
accustomed to. I don't need any more impediments to making money than I've
already got. So if the customer wants a busy lamp, I am going to do my
best to give it to them.
I agree. This is why engineers do not make good
Gregory Junker wrote:
Most customers don't want to be in a new era. They want something they
are
accustomed to. I don't need any more impediments to making money than
I've
already got. So if the customer wants a busy lamp, I am going to do my
best to give it to them.
I agree. This is why
Me and another guy are working on LCD drivers etc for Linux. The thing
Including touchscreen?
Ideally someone would tell me how to make something either a) seamlessly
convert serial/parallel/USB port to TCP and back at the other end, or b)
point me to a resource on a simple chip with TCP
On Sun, Nov 21, 2004 at 12:05:27AM -0500, Gregory Junker spake thusly:
What is the size of the current line panel on her desk? I am thinking it
might be worthwhile to produce an addon to Asterisk that drives a flat
touchpanel that does the same thing as the current solution. Baby steps.
I
On Sun, Nov 21, 2004 at 06:18:04PM +1300, Matt Riddell spake thusly:
Me and another guy are working on LCD drivers etc for Linux. The thing
is, the display would be run from your Asterisk Server. I.E. It will
need to be run from either Parallel, Serial or USB port. We will open
What would
Tracy R Reed wrote:
This is the way I want to go. A very small PC with a good touch screen.
And there are tons of extremely small systems that could do this job. I
have here in front of me a Soekris net4801 which is tiny, noiseless
computer (similar to a PC, but not quite the same) that draws
On Sun, Nov 21, 2004 at 12:21:16AM -0700, Kevin P. Fleming spake thusly:
And there are tons of extremely small systems that could do this job. I
have here in front of me a Soekris net4801 which is tiny, noiseless
I know there are plenty of small systems that would be great. The problem
is the
$400-500 device here. Not very price competitive. I would like to see less
than half that.
What is the price point you are trying to hit? Any piece of a
proprietary telecom system is by nature overpriced to begin with, and
receptionist consoles certainly fit into that category.
I agree that
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