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Huddleston, Robert
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Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Should I choose DSL @ 1.5 or a full T1?
Anyone
On Jun 17, 2005, at 7:56 AM, Daryl G. Jurbala wrote:
You find me a reliable Teir 1 ISP T1 in New Hope, PA for $300 to $400
and I'll give you the amount I save over the next quarter. NPA-NXX is
215-862. Good luck.
That sounds almost like Xeno's Paradox there... if you gave away the savings you
You find me a reliable Teir 1 ISP T1 in New Hope, PA
for $300 to $400
and I'll give you the amount I save over the next quarter. NPA-NXX is
215-862. Good luck.
Ive got a Full T1 from a rather
large Mid-Atlantic CLEC for $291. Ive got about dozen of them
On Tuesday 14 June 2005 18:47, Barton Fisher wrote:
So if I understand correctly, a full T1 should be 1.5Mbps full duplex. And
it should support 22 SIP Users at once - Right?
Depends on the codec and VOIP technology used and what else is going out over
the line.With the right technology
You guys have me second guessing my training and experience in this
area, so;
1. If I am wrong I apologize to the group.
2. I have been trying for a few minutes to find confirmation either way.
From what I know about the modulation techniques used by DSL (DMT, CAP,
QAM) it is impossible
On Monday 13 June 2005 22:54, Eric Rees wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong. I can remember installing a T1's with a HDSL
unit at the last CO, in which the T1 was delivered to the customer's
prem in two wires. I think they called this fast half-duplex.
Just because it's two-wire doesn't mean
On Monday 13 June 2005 21:14, Nir Simionovich wrote:
do a little math (23+1)*64 = 1536kbps = 1.536Mbps, hence the speed for a
single T1 circuit.
Your math's a little off.
T1 = 24 8-bit channels + 1 frame bit sent 8000 times a second.
24*8 = 192+1 = 193 bits sent 8000 times a second =
Well,
None of us is nitpicking here, are we? ;-)
Nir S
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Well,
None of us is nitpicking here, are we? ;-)
Nir S
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* Barton Fisher ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ha scritto:
I found someone offering T1's for $290 a month + Loops or 3 Meg for
$561 a month + Loops. Is this a good deal?
when i read so high prices for bandwidth i wonder why i get 10Mbps
over optical fiber for 70Euros/month. and i'm not a business
Your also not in the U.S. Out here in Southern California it's $500.00 -
$600.00 a month for T1's.
Filippo Carone wrote:
* Barton Fisher ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ha scritto:
I found someone offering T1's for $290 a month + Loops or 3 Meg for
$561 a month + Loops. Is this a good deal?
when
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Your
Which then presumably leads to higher overselling in the home market
since use is presumed lower.
Also there are often restriction on the line like no Ips given for
servers and no servers allowed.
I doubt they really care if we can afford it persay... I think it is
just a matter of what
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Which then presumably leads
On Jun 14, 2005, at 12:39, Wiley Siler wrote:
Which then presumably leads to higher overselling in the home market
since use is presumed lower.
Also there are often restriction on the line like no Ips given for
servers and no servers allowed.
I doubt they really care if we can afford it
On Tue, June 14, 2005 21:30, Bill McLaughlin said:
SNIP
There's also the fact that a lot of companies charge LESS for home access
than for a business, under the assumption that the business will utilize
it
more, and/or can afford the higher price.
Also home/private access (talking DSL
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Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Should I choose DSL @ 1.5 or a full T1?
Anyone paying over $450 for a T1 is being ripped off...
If you are in VA,MD,DC,PA,DE,NJ you can get an integrated VoIP T1 for
$300 - $400 and a flat internet t1 for about $400.
The integrated VoIP T1 is great
Discussion
asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 1:07 PM
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Telecom has had the world by the short hairs for decades so being
overcharged for technology that is 100 years old (excluding T1 and other
newer stuff
Wow! I never learn so much! Thanks Guys
So if I understand correctly, a full T1 should be 1.5Mbps full duplex.
And
it should support 22 SIP Users at once - Right?
Bart
Probably closer to 20 depending on setup/teardown frequency. This is
only if the line is dedicated VoIP, no other
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On Jun 10, 2005, at 6:38 PM, Michael Welter wrote:
Barton Fisher wrote:
I'm looking to expand my bandwidth for my Asterisk PBX. Why should I
choose a T1 over DSL for my asterisk server? I found someone
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Speakeasy SDSL Is 1.5 Megs, is business class (so you get
.
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Speakeasy SDSL Is 1.5
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You are aware that DSL
13, 2005 9:43 AM
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Speakeasy SDSL Is 1.5 Megs, is business class (so you get an SLA) and
only costs around $100 per month.
W
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Speakeasy SDSL Is 1.5 Megs, is business class (so you get an SLA) and
only costs around $100 per month.
W
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Nir Simionovich wrote:
Now, E1 and T1 lines are based upon a channel based connection, which
means you get a line
with X number of data lines and a single control/signalling line. On T1
it means that you have 23
lines dedicated for Voice/Data (each is 64kbps) and a single signaling
line
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Speakeasy SDSL Is 1.5 Megs, is business class (so you get an SLA) and
only costs around $100 per month.
W
Hi David,
You are correct, I always get those 2 confused. Thanks for the clearing.
Nir S
David Coulson wrote:
Nir Simionovich wrote:
Now, E1 and T1 lines are based upon a channel based connection, which
means you get a line
with X number of data lines and a single control/signalling
Simionovich
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Hi David,
You are correct, I always get those 2 confused. Thanks for the clearing.
Nir S
David Coulson wrote:
Nir Simionovich wrote
Leon Sun wrote:
Not really true about T1 description. When you apply for T1, you need tell
vendor if it's channelized or non-ch. If you are going to use it for 1.5M
network, you need use unchannelized T1.
T1 is T1. How you use the DS0s delivered across it is up to you. You can
mux them out
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Should I choose DSL @ 1.5 or a full T1?
Are you sure? Everything I have seen says SDSL = Full Duplex.
That being achieved by dropping the pair that provided voice and using
it for signalling.
Where ADSL utilizes unoccupied frequencies and averts conflict with
analog
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Are you sure? Everything I have seen says SDSL = Full Duplex.
That being achieved by dropping the pair that provided voice and using
it for signalling
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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 8:24 PM
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Leon Sun wrote:
Not really true about T1 description. When you apply for T1, you need
tell
vendor if it's channelized
Another alternative is to get another connection in addition to DSL for
example Cable Connection.
That is what we have, our main connection is DSL and we have a backup
Cable connection, if one connection goes down you switch to another.
It had happened to us in a past DSL went down, 10min. and we
Just a thought but, why not leverage both simultaneously and boost
the overall speed? Clients will only notice a slowdown when one or
the other goes down, but QOS will usually be better. At least you
wouldn't be wasting $80/$60 a month on something not used. Even
better is that no
Barton Fisher wrote:
I'm looking to expand my bandwidth for my Asterisk PBX.
Why should I choose a T1 over DSL for my asterisk server?
I found someone offering T1's for $290 a month + Loops or 3 Meg for $561
a month + Loops. Is this a good deal?
Thanks
Bart
At 08:26 PM 6/10/2005, you wrote:
I'm looking to expand my bandwidth for my Asterisk PBX.
Why should I choose a T1 over DSL for my asterisk server?
Read the SLA (Service Level Agreement) on each. DSL usually doesn't have
one. You are buying an oversold connection which might give you the
On Jun 10, 2005, at 6:38 PM, Michael Welter wrote:
Barton Fisher wrote:
I'm looking to expand my bandwidth for my Asterisk PBX. Why should I
choose a T1 over DSL for my asterisk server? I found someone
offering T1's for $290 a month + Loops or 3 Meg for $561 a month +
Loops. Is this a
SLA!
T-1 usually has a Service Level Agreement
so if your T-1 goes down they have to fix it ASAP. DSL usually doesnt
have this. We had this is come up before. We had 1.5 VDSL from Qwest (which has worked
fine for VOIP for us) but we had it go out and it was done for a day. Tried to
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